Posted: 6/1/2013 6:39:55 AM EDT
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When does the legislative session end? I assume at that time we can start a nice loophole thread?
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When does the legislative session end? I assume at that time we can start a nice loophole thread? What "loopholes"? If the law doesn't prohibit it then its legal and NOT a "loophole". Instead its just poorly written from the perspective of the gun grabbers. We've had multiple threads already where there has been much discussion on various issues with the new law and much discussion on what's legal and what isn't under the new law. Some people are too worried about what the other side might do if we discuss this stupid law. They want to ban guns! Period, end of story. Being quite and not talking about the law doesn't stop them from THEIR end goal. They cannot ban guns in one shot so they do it incrementally. The politicians who proposed the laws and had a hand in writing it may be stupid, unknowledgeable about firearms, and generally incompetent but that doesn't mean there isn't people behind them who DO know about firearms and already have legislation sitting on the shelf that goes beyond this new law. |
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When does the legislative session end? I assume at that time we can start a nice loophole thread? Just because the regular legislation session ended doesn't mean they cannot call an emergency session and ram through more laws. Nothing stops them from passing more gun control next year. We have already been discussion the law and the issues surrounding it since SB 1160 was first published publicly. There are NO "loopholes". That is a gun grabbing term, STOP using it. |
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When does the legislative session end? I assume at that time we can start a nice loophole thread? Just because the regular legislation session ended doesn't mean they cannot call an emergency session and ram through more laws. Nothing stops them from passing more gun control next year. We have already been discussion the law and the issues surrounding it since SB 1160 was first published publicly. There are NO "loopholes". That is a gun grabbing term, STOP using it. Doesn't get much clearer than this,no need to discuss in an open forum like this, only harm. Read the law and do what you feel is legal or not. These crooks pass laws nobody heard about and without public comment in the middle of the night. They are coming for more whether it be tomorrow or in the fall. They will come at us with the registration form next,it shouldn't take two plus months to word a SIMPLE form even with a giant turd of a bill like this. No Doubt Malloyikoff has his grubby tiny crooked fingers all over the form even though it's not his chore. |
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Doesn't get much clearer than this,no need to discuss in an open forum like this, only harm. Read the law and do what you feel is legal or not. These crooks pass laws nobody heard about and without public comment in the middle of the night. They are coming for more whether it be tomorrow or in the fall. They will come at us with the registration form next,it shouldn't take two plus months to word a SIMPLE form even with a giant turd of a bill like this. No Doubt Malloyikoff has his grubby tiny crooked fingers all over the form even though it's not his chore. It is one's personal choice whether to discuss the law and the issues surrounding it or not. Frankly I don't care if we discuss something that the gun grabbers later decide to ban. They want to ban all guns, period. Nothing we say will stop or slow them down from their goal. Am I helping them by discussing the law? Don't care. I will not stop exercising my right to free speech out of fear of what they might do. We already have multiple threads discussing things the new law doesn't cover or affect. Many other gun forums, including local ones, also have multiple threads discussion things this law does not cover or affect. The minute SB 1160 was published the genie was out of the bottle and on full display for all to see. While our legislators and the people who wrote the new laws may be morons, dopes, idiots, and have absolutely no knowledge about firearms, you can bet that some of their supporters and lobbying groups do. And those folks were picking apart the new law just like were. <shrugs> |
Why stop talking about loopholes now !!!!   It has been said by many when SB1160 law was passed on many forums to wait and stop talking about loopholes but it fell on deaf ears. They were reading, listening and now we have revisions and people are crying  It can get worse, so I say talk away and give them more info they missed to make these stupid laws more dysfunctional 
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As long as it isn't banned by name,pre-94 AW is legal, not required to be registered and can be transferrable. the way I read it, a pre 94 can be named in the new law (pa 13-3) and still not have to be registered as long as it was not named in the old.... see bold below.... Notwithstanding any provision of the general statutes, sections 53-202a to 53-202l, inclusive, as amended by this act, shall not be construed to limit the transfer or require the registration of an assault weapon as defined in subdivision (3) or (4) of subsection (a) of section 53-202a of the general statutes, revision of 1958, revised to January 1, 2013, provided such firearm was legally manufactured prior to September 13, 1994. key word - "notwithstanding" meaning "regardless of" |
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As long as it isn't banned by name,pre-94 AW is legal, not required to be registered and can be transferrable. we need to make a list of those. So 15-22's and 10/22 is ok, as long as it only has two features, basically like the old AW ban? There is no list needed. Rather apply any firearm against the following flow chart I posted to another thread. It will help you figure out what is legal and if it needs to be registered.
DESPP List of Assault Weapons Banned by Name LCO No. 8513 Public Act No. 13-3 * Centerfire Semiautomatic "Evil Feature: List: (I) A folding or telescoping stock (II) Any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other stock, the use of which would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing (III) A forward pistol grip (IV) A flash suppressor (V) A grenade launcher or flare launcher ** New Semiautomatic Pistol "Evil Features" List: (I) An ability to accept a detachable ammunition magazine that attaches at some location outside of the pistol grip (II) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward pistol grip or silencer (III) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to fire the firearm without being burned, except a slide that encloses the barrel (IV) A second hand grip *** Old Semiautomatic Rifle "Evil Features" List: (i) A folding or telescoping stock (ii) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon (iii) A bayonet mount (iv) A flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor (v) A grenade launcher **** Old Semiautomatic Pistol "Evil Features" List: (i) An ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip (ii) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip or silencer (iii) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned (iv) A manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded (v) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm ***** Old Semiautomatic Shotgun "Evil Features" List: (i) A folding or telescoping stock (ii) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon (iii) A fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds (iv) An ability to accept a detachable magazine [post edited and updated] |
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When does the legislative session end? I assume at that time we can start a nice loophole thread? Just because the regular legislation session ended doesn't mean they cannot call an emergency session and ram through more laws. Nothing stops them from passing more gun control next year. We have already been discussion the law and the issues surrounding it since SB 1160 was first published publicly. There are NO "loopholes". That is a gun grabbing term, STOP using it. They are not going into a special session unless there is a massive disaster or a budget issue, which there is not. There is however, a short session in the fall. CAGV already has the next move planned out, with the police chiefs assoc playing cleanup to fuck up pistol permitting. |
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CAGV already has the next move planned out, with the police chiefs assoc playing cleanup to fuck up pistol permitting. That's why I really don't give a shit if we talk about things that are not banned by the new law, or talk about the fucked up way the law deals with certain firearm and their features. CAGV have the ear of the legislators including Republicans who are too scared to stand against them. They believe they have a mandate and the sheeple are behind that mandate. They have a plan. The same plan being implemented in numerous liberal states. They are implementing their plan incrementally. They want to ban all guns. They think the courts (including SCOTUS) will uphold their laws. Us not talking about it doesn't stop them from their mission. Fuck be upon the gun grabbers (oh and FBHO). 
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STEP1 THERE ARE NO LOOPHOLES,IF IT IS NOT DEEMED ILLEGAL THEN IT IS LEGAL. now when the above sinks in do STEP2. THERE ARE NO HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINES,ONLY MAGAZINES. when you have accomplish parts 1 and 2 try this STEP3 THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ASSAULT WEAPON! A PISTOL GRIP,OR A FLASHHIDER,OR A COLLAPASBLE STOCK DOES NOT MAKE A FIREARM MORE DEADLY THAN ONE THAT DOES NOT HAVE ANY OF THOSE FEATURES. we need to stop labeling our firearms by the left's terminology we just play into there hands when we do this. |
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repeat after me until it sinks in STEP1 THERE ARE NO LOOPHOLES,IF IT IS NOT DEEMED ILLEGAL THEN IT IS LEGAL. now when the above sinks in do STEP2. THERE ARE NO HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINES,ONLY MAGAZINES. when you have accomplish parts 1 and 2 try this STEP3 THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ASSAULT WEAPON! A PISTOL GRIP,OR A FLASHHIDER,OR A COLLAPASBLE STOCK DOES NOT MAKE A FIREARM MORE DEADLY THAN ONE THAT DOES NOT HAVE ANY OF THOSE FEATURES. we need to stop labeling our firearms by the left's terminology we just play into there hands when we do this. You got my vote. When are you jumping on the ballot? |
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repeat after me until it sinks in STEP1 THERE ARE NO LOOPHOLES,IF IT IS NOT DEEMED ILLEGAL THEN IT IS LEGAL. now when the above sinks in do STEP2. THERE ARE NO HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINES,ONLY MAGAZINES. when you have accomplish parts 1 and 2 try this STEP3 THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ASSAULT WEAPON! A PISTOL GRIP,OR A FLASHHIDER,OR A COLLAPASBLE STOCK DOES NOT MAKE A FIREARM MORE DEADLY THAN ONE THAT DOES NOT HAVE ANY OF THOSE FEATURES. we need to stop labeling our firearms by the left's terminology we just play into there hands when we do this. You got my vote. When are you jumping on the ballot? Thanks! I am not politician material I tend to do un-politican type things such as: speak the truth, say what I mean and mean what I say, look people in the eye when I speak to them, when I give my word on something it is my bond, I have a set of principals and values that I try to live by and will not compromise them for anyone or anything. I have found the above are not popular in the political arena or held by the liberal electorate that controls this state.In other words I would lose in a landslide. |