[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Moving into CT (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/18/2013 4:09:38 PM EDT
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Yes, but if its an AW they want you to register it. Up to you where you go from there. that is 100% WRONG! the law very clearly states that if you move into CT after April 4th, 2013, you have 90 days to sell any AW's to an FFL, sell it out of state, or turn it in to local law enforcement. anyone who moves into CT after April 4th 2013, CAN NOT KEEP any firearms that CT classifies as assault weapons this is the law: 53-202d subsection (d): Any person who moves into the state in lawful possession of an assault weapon, shall, within ninety days, either render the assault weapon permanently inoperable, sell the assault weapon to a licensed gun dealer or remove the assault weapon from this state. P.S. if you get a CT driver's license before May 3rd, 2013, and your rifle was NOT classified as an assault weapon before April 4th, 2013 (IE a 1-feature AR), then yes you can keep it as long as you register it before January 1st 2014. the reason I say this is because in CT you legally have 30 days from the time you move to CT til the time you need to have your license transferred to CT. so as long as you get your license by may 3rd, you can say you moved here before April 4th. catch my drift? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Can someone moving into CT bring their rifle if they move in before January? Quoted: Yes, but if its an AW they want you to register it. Up to you where you go from there. that is 100% WRONG! the law very clearly states that if you move into CT after April 4th, 2013, you have 90 days to sell any AW's to an FFL, sell it out of state, or turn it in to local law enforcement. anyone who moves into CT after April 4th 2013, CAN NOT KEEP any firearms that CT classifies as assault weapons this is the law: 53-202d subsection (d): Any person who moves into the state in lawful possession of an assault weapon, shall, within ninety days, either render the assault weapon permanently inoperable, sell the assault weapon to a licensed gun dealer or remove the assault weapon from this state. P.S. if you get a CT driver's license before May 3rd, 2013, and your rifle was NOT classified as an assault weapon before April 4th, 2013 (IE a 1-feature AR), then yes you can keep it as long as you register it before January 1st 2014. the reason I say this is because in CT you legally have 30 days from the time you move to CT til the time you need to have your license transferred to CT. so as long as you get your license by may 3rd, you can say you moved here before April 4th. catch my drift? So I'd say its still possible he could get away with it before the registration due date.
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Yes, but if its an AW they want you to register it. Up to you where you go from there. that is 100% WRONG! the law very clearly states that if you move into CT after April 4th, 2013, you have 90 days to sell any AW's to an FFL, sell it out of state, or turn it in to local law enforcement. anyone who moves into CT after April 4th 2013, CAN NOT KEEP any firearms that CT classifies as assault weapons this is the law: 53-202d subsection (d): Any person who moves into the state in lawful possession of an assault weapon, shall, within ninety days, either render the assault weapon permanently inoperable, sell the assault weapon to a licensed gun dealer or remove the assault weapon from this state. are there any lawyers here that can advise either way? |
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Can someone moving into CT bring their rifle if they move in before January? Quoted:
Yes, but if its an AW they want you to register it. Up to you where you go from there. that is 100% WRONG! the law very clearly states that if you move into CT after April 4th, 2013, you have 90 days to sell any AW's to an FFL, sell it out of state, or turn it in to local law enforcement. anyone who moves into CT after April 4th 2013, CAN NOT KEEP any firearms that CT classifies as assault weapons this is the law: 53-202d subsection (d): Any person who moves into the state in lawful possession of an assault weapon, shall, within ninety days, either render the assault weapon permanently inoperable, sell the assault weapon to a licensed gun dealer or remove the assault weapon from this state. P.S. if you get a CT driver's license before May 3rd, 2013, and your rifle was NOT classified as an assault weapon before April 4th, 2013 (IE a 1-feature AR), then yes you can keep it as long as you register it before January 1st 2014. the reason I say this is because in CT you legally have 30 days from the time you move to CT til the time you need to have your license transferred to CT. so as long as you get your license by may 3rd, you can say you moved here before April 4th. catch my drift? In other words, you are suggesting that he willfully subscribe to a false statement and fraudulently obtain a certificate of possession, since if he gerrymanders the dates in his story right, he can possibly make it look like in fact the exemption to the prohibition is applicable to him. |
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Yes, but if its an AW they want you to register it. Up to you where you go from there. that is 100% WRONG! the law very clearly states that if you move into CT after April 4th, 2013, you have 90 days to sell any AW's to an FFL, sell it out of state, or turn it in to local law enforcement. anyone who moves into CT after April 4th 2013, CAN NOT KEEP any firearms that CT classifies as assault weapons this is the law: 53-202d subsection (d): Any person who moves into the state in lawful possession of an assault weapon, shall, within ninety days, either render the assault weapon permanently inoperable, sell the assault weapon to a licensed gun dealer or remove the assault weapon from this state. P.S. if you get a CT driver's license before May 3rd, 2013, and your rifle was NOT classified as an assault weapon before April 4th, 2013 (IE a 1-feature AR), then yes you can keep it as long as you register it before January 1st 2014. the reason I say this is because in CT you legally have 30 days from the time you move to CT til the time you need to have your license transferred to CT. so as long as you get your license by may 3rd, you can say you moved here before April 4th. catch my drift? In other words, you are suggesting that he willfully subscribe to a false statement and fraudulently obtain a certificate of possession, since if he gerrymanders the dates in his story right, he can possibly make it look like in fact the exemption to the prohibition is applicable to him. I'm not suggesting any form of false statement or fraud. I am simply stating a way to prove that you were a CT resident before April 4th. Because afterall, in order to obtain a CT drivers license you need to provide proof of residency. And also because you need to be a CT resident to register, which means you obviously can't have an out of state license to register, unless you have dual residency in which case you'll need to prove both the CT residence and the out of state residence. |
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Yes, but if its an AW they want you to register it. Up to you where you go from there. that is 100% WRONG! the law very clearly states that if you move into CT after April 4th, 2013, you have 90 days to sell any AW's to an FFL, sell it out of state, or turn it in to local law enforcement. anyone who moves into CT after April 4th 2013, CAN NOT KEEP any firearms that CT classifies as assault weapons this is the law: 53-202d subsection (d): Any person who moves into the state in lawful possession of an assault weapon, shall, within ninety days, either render the assault weapon permanently inoperable, sell the assault weapon to a licensed gun dealer or remove the assault weapon from this state. are there any lawyers here that can advise either way? there really is no need for a lawyer, the law is very clear, word for word. there's no interpretation about it. if you can provide some form of proof that you became a CT resident before april 4th, you're good to go. if you can not, then you need to follow the above law. |
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Yes, but if its an AW they want you to register it. Up to you where you go from there. that is 100% WRONG! the law very clearly states that if you move into CT after April 4th, 2013, you have 90 days to sell any AW's to an FFL, sell it out of state, or turn it in to local law enforcement. anyone who moves into CT after April 4th 2013, CAN NOT KEEP any firearms that CT classifies as assault weapons this is the law: 53-202d subsection (d): Any person who moves into the state in lawful possession of an assault weapon, shall, within ninety days, either render the assault weapon permanently inoperable, sell the assault weapon to a licensed gun dealer or remove the assault weapon from this state. are there any lawyers here that can advise either way? there really is no need for a lawyer, the law is very clear, word for word. there's no interpretation about it. if you can provide some form of proof that you became a CT resident before april 4th, you're good to go. if you can not, then you need to follow the above law. It is not clear because it doesn't say either "After April 4th" or "After January 2014". |
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As soon as Malloy finished signing his name on that bill, the plug was pulled on any more AR-15s here, period. There's no waffling about this. If you didn't have it before 4/4, you won't own it. Could someone buy one from a "friend" FTF and back date a receipt? Sure. How would anyone know? It's still going to have to be registered in January, however. If you move here after 4/4, you're going to have to find another home for your AR until you leave. You can't have it here because they were made illegal. Check by going into ANY gun shop. Find any ARs for sale??
The rest of the stupid bill may be a morass but that one fact is indisputable and is why we're going to suffer the fallout from it regarding parts purchases or mods. Already fellas are reporting having orders for parts cancelled. It would not surprise me at all if we can't by anything related to an AR-15 ever again especially uppers or "parts kits". A "parts kit" like offered from Sarco or the like, is a complete rifle with the exception of a lower receiver. The question is if you can register a stripped receiver? Will the new registration form have specific info required like barrel length and other configuration specifics? Who knows. That's why this is all screwed up. We can yell at the suppliers that parts are not illegal to purchase, just the rifles but you know that their lawyers are going to be very conservative on this, just like they are in dealing with MA now. I'll bet we'll see Sportsmen's Guide pare CT out soon enough as well as Cheaper Than Dirt. Just a matter of time. Rome |
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It is not clear because it doesn't say either "After April 4th" or "After January 2014". No, it does not say a date. What it says is that if you move to CT in lawful possession of an ASSAULT WEAPON that you have 90 days to get rid of it, you can not keep it. We've had that law for a long time. Before April 4th 2013: a 1-feature AR was not an assault weapon, so if you moved here before April 4th, you are good to go because when you moved here it was not an assault weapon and that law does not apply. After April 4th though 1-feature AR's are assault weapons, so if you moved here after April 4th then you are moving here with an assault weapon, so you need to get rid of it. |
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there really is no need for a lawyer, the law is very clear, word for word. there's no interpretation about it. if you can provide some form of proof that you became a CT resident before april 4th, you're good to go. if you can not, then you need to follow the above law. Agreed. And that's coming from a lawyer -- and we usually love to hear ourselves talk. |
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Counting on the natural incompetence of most state employees I would move in wait until Oct or Nov and register my AR. My money is on that they will not have anyway to tell when you moved here. If they deny you a certificate then move it out of state to a friend's place. At that time they will be swamped with requests as most of us will wait until the last minute to register. Also the CCDL will be fighting this in court so there is a chance the law gets overturned.
Go to CCDL.US and donate something to the cause. They need money for this lawsuit. |
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Counting on the natural incompetence of most state employees I would move in wait until Oct or Nov and register my AR. My money is on that they will not have anyway to tell when you moved here. If they deny you a certificate then move it out of state to a friend's place. At that time they will be swamped with requests as most of us will wait until the last minute to register. Also the CCDL will be fighting this in court so there is a chance the law gets overturned. Go to CCDL.US and donate something to the cause. They need money for this lawsuit. The state may be incompetent but that is no reason to recommend someone commit a felony. Would he be OK? Probably. |
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Counting on the natural incompetence of most state employees I would move in wait until Oct or Nov and register my AR. My money is on that they will not have anyway to tell when you moved here. If they deny you a certificate then move it out of state to a friend's place. At that time they will be swamped with requests as most of us will wait until the last minute to register. Also the CCDL will be fighting this in court so there is a chance the law gets overturned. Go to CCDL.US and donate something to the cause. They need money for this lawsuit. The state may be incompetent but that is no reason to recommend someone commit a felony. Would he be OK? Probably. Well I would think the state would just inform you of the denial and give you 90days to sell or remove your gun. It would be highly unlikely that they would arrest you as a felon. Alternatively you could leave it out of state. Attempt to register it and if denied you are not a felon because the gun is not in the state. If approved you can then move it here. They give you 90 days to deal with selling or removal of the gun when moving here. |
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What if you move into the state with a preban lower after all the dates? This might happen with me... 53-202d(d): Any person who moves into the state in lawful possession of an assault weapon, shall, within ninety days, either render the assault weapon permanently inoperable, sell the assault weapon to a licensed gun dealer or remove the assault weapon from this state[.] |
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I would reconsider moving here, were on the verge of collapse. It's only gonna get worse. Likely a second round of gun restrictions coming. But at least your children will be safe. the second round may end up being confiscation. I believe Malloy has already admitted to that being a possibility |
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I would reconsider moving here, were on the verge of collapse. It's only gonna get worse. Likely a second round of gun restrictions coming. But at least your children will be safe. the second round may end up being confiscation. I believe Malloy has already admitted to that being a possibility Perfect timing... Buy my house! Don't listen to these guys. CT's progressive future is SO BRIGHT! 
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Even its a preban 94 rifle? yes, even if it's a pre-ban. doesn't matter. if you move to CT after april 4th 2013, you need to get rid of it within 90 days dps said that you are gtg if you move in before the deadline. are you taking orders? 
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Even its a preban 94 rifle? yes, even if it's a pre-ban. doesn't matter. if you move to CT after april 4th 2013, you need to get rid of it within 90 days dps said that you are gtg if you move in before the deadline. Which deadline are you referring to: April 4th or January? |
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Just say no to CT.....  +1,000,000 I grew up here, and even I wish I could leave sometimes. :P I guess it all depends where my career takes me. I grew up here too. I wish I could leave at least 4 or 5 times a week. Especially since they've began putting forth such a huge effort to protect the children I don't have 
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Even its a preban 94 rifle? yes, even if it's a pre-ban. doesn't matter. if you move to CT after april 4th 2013, you need to get rid of it within 90 days dps said that you are gtg if you move in before the deadline. Which deadline are you referring to: April 4th or January? January |
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Even its a preban 94 rifle? yes, even if it's a pre-ban. doesn't matter. if you move to CT after april 4th 2013, you need to get rid of it within 90 days dps said that you are gtg if you move in before the deadline. Are you military? no I am not military, I am just repeating what was said. however, you do need to have proof that anything being registered was owned before April 4th. |
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Yes, but if its an AW they want you to register it. Up to you where you go from there. that is 100% WRONG! the law very clearly states that if you move into CT after April 4th, 2013, you have 90 days to sell any AW's to an FFL, sell it out of state, or turn it in to local law enforcement. anyone who moves into CT after April 4th 2013, CAN NOT KEEP any firearms that CT classifies as assault weapons this is the law: 53-202d subsection (d): Any person who moves into the state in lawful possession of an assault weapon, shall, within ninety days, either render the assault weapon permanently inoperable, sell the assault weapon to a licensed gun dealer or remove the assault weapon from this state. P.S. if you get a CT driver's license before May 3rd, 2013, and your rifle was NOT classified as an assault weapon before April 4th, 2013 (IE a 1-feature AR), then yes you can keep it as long as you register it before January 1st 2014. the reason I say this is because in CT you legally have 30 days from the time you move to CT til the time you need to have your license transferred to CT. so as long as you get your license by may 3rd, you can say you moved here before April 4th. catch my drift? In other words, you are suggesting that he willfully subscribe to a false statement and fraudulently obtain a certificate of possession, since if he gerrymanders the dates in his story right, he can possibly make it look like in fact the exemption to the prohibition is applicable to him. I'm not suggesting any form of false statement or fraud. I am simply stating a way to prove that you were a CT resident before April 4th. Because afterall, in order to obtain a CT drivers license you need to provide proof of residency. And also because you need to be a CT resident to register, which means you obviously can't have an out of state license to register, unless you have dual residency in which case you'll need to prove both the CT residence and the out of state residence. The way that your intitial response read, it seemed like you were implying that the OP should move-in, get a CTDL before a specified date, and pretend that he was here on the date specified in the ban. My apologies if that's not what you were suggesting. ( |
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Even its a preban 94 rifle? yes, even if it's a pre-ban. doesn't matter. if you move to CT after april 4th 2013, you need to get rid of it within 90 days dps said that you are gtg if you move in before the deadline. I just contacted the DESPP and posed the same question. They would not give me an answer. They stated that their legal team was still reviewing the ACT and to check back with them in a couple of weeks. |
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its pretty easy to figure out, not sure why DPS is having such an issue.
the law says "if you move into CT in lawful possession of an assault weapon, you have 90 days to get rid of it". on april 3rd 2013, it wasn't an assault weapon. so if you moved to CT before april 4th, you're good to go. on april 5th 2013, it WAS an assault weapon, so if you moved into CT on april 5th or later, you need to get rid of it. [the above is obviously referring to firearms that were not assault weapons with the old laws, but are assault weapons now with the new laws, like 1-feature AR's] |
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Ya know, reading that in black and white like that is pretty interesting, actually. Remove the idea that we're talking about firearms right now. What would CT be like if they were to 100% ban.......say.....any car that is over 25 years old because they were wanting to improve emissions. Like the car that's 25 years old the AR-15 is a legal thing to buy and own in 46 other states. So, if CT can put an outright ban on it, what's to stop them from deciding that older cars are a bain to our society and simply outlaw them. If Malloy was just a bit more of a Bloomberg buttkisser, then I'll bet he'd try to outlaw 30oz drinks, salt on the table and happy meals just to name a few things. Really....think about it. The guy single handed decided that we can't have something we like because he doesn't like it. He's got the votes right now.
I wonder just how much friction he would encounter from his own party if he were to ban some food like NY banned. Do you think it would fly or do you think that this time the reps and senators would "listen" to their constituents and get the message that they were overstepping their bounds. Guns? Oh my yes. Get them gone and Ban them. Salt, Trans-fats, big gulps? Oh my no! Now you're getting too involved with my daily life. Rome |
i love how people are asking us about our own laws and for the most part we have no idea wtf is going on.
NoZombies, I moved here with my family in 99. I have found that there are some great folks up here,but you have to look REALLY hard to weed out all the d-bag yanks. |
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I would reconsider moving here, were on the verge of collapse. It's only gonna get worse. Likely a second round of gun restrictions coming. But at least your children will be safe. the second round may end up being confiscation. I believe Malloy has already admitted to that being a possibility Perfect timing... Buy my house! Don't listen to these guys. CT's progressive future is SO BRIGHT! Once my wife gets her full vetting for bonus (3yrs) I think I will be making the trip to Texas. Never really wanted to move there till 08 and now it seems the last bastion. In addition to this most o my neighbors have been taping over the part of their plates that says constitution. mind you we are not in the sticks either... |