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4/6/2013 9:24:15 AM EDT
Man, what a mess over here. I have between 2-8 to register depending on how the law or my understanding of the law shakes out.
I am reviewing the registration form currently.

They ask for proof that you purchased this weapon on or prior to 4/4/2013. In addition to one of the following, a DPS-3, or a sworn affidavit that the specified AW was purchased in compliance with state and federal laws.

So I have a few private sales, but they all have a signed and dated receipt. 3 are proper with receipt and DPS-3
The rest only a DPS-3 but no store receipt...
The dates of transfer I can prove with them all. Though some are only lower receivers that where turned into pre ban configuration guns.

None of the guns currently match the original papers that came with them, i.e. the barrels where cut or replaced etc.
So here are my answers to my understanding of this.

1. All guns with only a DPS-3 is acceptable. (they show a date & legal transfer)
2. All guns without a DPS-3 need a statement from a notary that they where transferred legally.
3. The lower issues will not be a concern as it was built legally prior to the law being changed.

Well, how are you understanding all of this on your end?
4/6/2013 9:32:17 AM EDT
[#1]
I have between 2-6 here that I don't know what to do.
A few I have proof of purchase(copy of gunbroker auction win) but no DPS-3.My FFL has copies but said he may charge me for his time to dig it up and make copies.Personally that burned my ass when he said that.
1 has no DPS-3,no receipt and the store I bought it from loosed 2 years ago.

Can I go down to my local PD records office and get copies of my DPS-3?

Shouldn't the DPS-3 be enough since it shows that it was legally transferred to you? Why is the proof of purchase necessary.
4/6/2013 9:40:56 AM EDT
[#2]
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I have between 2-6 here that I don't know what to do.
A few I have proof of purchase(copy of gunbroker auction win) but no DPS-3.My FFL has copies but said he may charge me for his time to dig it up and make copies.Personally that burned my ass when he said that.
1 has no DPS-3,no receipt and the store I bought it from loosed 2 years ago.

Can I go down to my local PD records office and get copies of my DPS-3?

Shouldn't the DPS-3 be enough since it shows that it was legally transferred to you? Why is the proof of purchase necessary.


The local police do have a copy of all the transfers, but the records people may charge you a fee.
Then just do a notary for the other private sales. I think the date of purchase is the most important requirement.
4/6/2013 9:45:04 AM EDT
[#3]
I did 4 transfers through a local dealer who insisted (still does) that the DPS-3 was unnecessary when you had a pistol permit.  So I have his receipts dated prior to APR 4, and will whip up a notarized statement saying they were legal when I bought them (I am still trying to figure out what that is for).  Hope that will do!
4/6/2013 9:51:39 AM EDT
[#4]
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I have between 2-6 here that I don't know what to do.
A few I have proof of purchase(copy of gunbroker auction win) but no DPS-3.My FFL has copies but said he may charge me for his time to dig it up and make copies.Personally that burned my ass when he said that.
1 has no DPS-3,no receipt and the store I bought it from loosed 2 years ago.

Can I go down to my local PD records office and get copies of my DPS-3?

Shouldn't the DPS-3 be enough since it shows that it was legally transferred to you? Why is the proof of purchase necessary.


The local police do have a copy of all the transfers, but the records people may charge you a fee.
Then just do a notary for the other private sales. I think the date of purchase is the most important requirement.


If I understand it they are asking for proof of purchase and a copy of DPS-3 or a sworn affidavit.
For a few guns I do not have any proof of purchase like a sales receipt.
4/6/2013 10:30:58 AM EDT
[#5]
Someone will need to call them on what is exactly needed. Where is the form for magazines??

Give it a little time, let the dust settle. In 30 days we will have a better handle what we have to comply with and what to bury if they refuse to process the paperwork.

I am willing to sell them to the state for fair compensation. Maybe the next gun buy back program I can get a $75 gift card!
4/6/2013 10:34:24 AM EDT
[#6]
Maybe wait for things to shake out before jumping to send in paperwork?  There has got to be more guidance coming...
4/6/2013 10:37:11 AM EDT
[#7]
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For a few guns I do not have any proof of purchase like a sales receipt.


Yes I'm in the same predicament. So what do they want us to do counterfeit a store receipt?
4/6/2013 11:00:22 AM EDT
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For a few guns I do not have any proof of purchase like a sales receipt.


Yes I'm in the same predicament. So what do they want us to do counterfeit a store receipt?


Same sinking boat here..
4/6/2013 11:00:43 AM EDT
[#9]
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Maybe wait for things to shake out before jumping to send in paperwork?  There has got to be more guidance coming...


I am not going to register anything anytime soon but I would like to have all the paperwork the state is demanding when I do register. I don't want to be doing a mad scramble in late December looking for forms and receipts.

I just like to be prepared.
4/6/2013 11:01:58 AM EDT
[#10]
Just give me your shit you have no receipt for...I'll take good care of it..
4/6/2013 11:02:31 AM EDT
[#11]
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Someone will need to call them on what is exactly needed. Where is the form for magazines??

Give it a little time, let the dust settle. In 30 days we will have a better handle what we have to comply with and what to bury if they refuse to process the paperwork.

I am willing to sell them to the state for fair compensation. Maybe the next gun buy back program I can get a $75 gift card!


That makes my skin crawl at even the thought of selling any of my guns for a Walmart gift card.
I know you said it in jest but the horror!
4/6/2013 11:03:43 AM EDT
[#12]
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Just give me your shit you have no receipt for...I'll take good care of it..


Sorry I have a rule about giving anything free out to '13ers
4/6/2013 11:06:11 AM EDT
[#13]
End of year paperwork nuclear holocaust !

I would send all my registrations by certified mail so they gotta sign for it and no chance of a we didn't get your shit claims

I say we all send it in on 12/14
4/6/2013 11:17:54 AM EDT
[#14]
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End of year paperwork nuclear holocaust !

I would send all my registrations by certified mail so they gotta sign for it and no chance of a we didn't get your shit claims

I say we all send it in on 12/14


I like it I am in!
4/6/2013 3:37:36 PM EDT
[#15]
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End of year paperwork nuclear holocaust !

I would send all my registrations by certified mail so they gotta sign for it and no chance of a we didn't get your shit claims

I say we all send it in on 12/14


I like it I am in!


Lmfao. If this is valid and i'm still here I say Hell ya!

4/6/2013 6:11:06 PM EDT
[#16]
My son built mine from parts he ordered and had sent to me for every birthday, Christmas, Fathers Day, etc., while he was in the Persian Gulf. When he got  home (over 2 years ago)  he built everything up on a lower he had purchased at a Gun Show when he lived in Texas. No receipt and no reasonable way to prove I owned it "before the Day".

So I'm screwed, right?
4/6/2013 6:25:04 PM EDT
[#17]
You know what, I don't think we need a receipt. They want to know when it was transferred. A DPS-3 has the date on the form.

If you don't have that form because it was a private sale, just get a piece of paper and say,

I (My Name), purchased this (Gun maker SN 12345) lower or rifle from (XYZ) on (this date). The sale was legal per all state and federal laws at that time. The rifle was then restored to working condition.

Signed, then signed and dated by a notary.


Don't forget your thumb print from the local police.....

Easy as pie.
4/6/2013 8:15:02 PM EDT
[#18]
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End of year paperwork nuclear holocaust !

I would send all my registrations by certified mail so they gotta sign for it and no chance of a we didn't get your shit claims

I say we all send it in on 12/14


im with cav.  

set up a shine n write party

hell, just to piss em off ill register my range bag, ear plugs,safety glasses,holsters, stripper clips,empty brass, condoms (ha!  kidding), opposums, my neighbors dog, my shoes, fuckin everything i figure needs to be document as i become more and more inebriated.
4/6/2013 8:58:09 PM EDT
[#19]
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End of year paperwork nuclear holocaust !

I would send all my registrations by certified mail so they gotta sign for it and no chance of a we didn't get your shit claims

I say we all send it in on 12/14


condoms (ha!  kidding


Not an assault weapon?

But the 12/14 is an awesome idea. I got 7 to do here so I will do the pistols on 12/14..... monkey see monkey do.
4/6/2013 9:06:21 PM EDT
[#20]
What if you sold a rifle out of state and you only have the
copy of the FFL that you sent it to?
4/6/2013 9:21:22 PM EDT
[#21]
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What if you sold a rifle out of state and you only have the
copy of the FFL that you sent it to?


If you sold it then you don't have anything to worry about. Only us smucks with these guns need to worry.
4/6/2013 11:44:06 PM EDT
[#22]
The incredibly easy way to solve this mess is to just not register a thing. "Sold them all. Sorry, no receipts."
4/7/2013 4:00:51 AM EDT
[#23]
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The incredibly easy way to solve this mess is to just not register a thing. "Sold them all. Sorry, no receipts."


Also a great way to break the law and give them the excuse "they"  are looking for
4/7/2013 4:35:20 AM EDT
[#24]
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The incredibly easy way to solve this mess is to just not register a thing. "Sold them all. Sorry, no receipts."


Also a great way to break the law and give them the excuse "they"  are looking for


Yeah seriously get to the back of the bus. When we get off stay away from the non gun owners water fountain and bathroom.



Too bad I sold my "assault weapons". I might still register a couple thousand random things on dec31  
4/7/2013 6:19:49 AM EDT
[#25]
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The incredibly easy way to solve this mess is to just not register a thing. "Sold them all. Sorry, no receipts."


Also a great way to break the law and give them the excuse "they"  are looking for


Yeah seriously get to the back of the bus. When we get off stay away from the non gun owners water fountain and bathroom.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b72/ezec_10O0/1ABE3B52-F6A8-46A8-AA0F-9FEC256D6528-5828-00000720A48813A0.jpg

Too bad I sold my "assault weapons". I might still register a couple thousand random things on dec31  


Don't forget to "pick up that can".
4/7/2013 7:04:01 AM EDT
[#26]
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The incredibly easy way to solve this mess is to just not register a thing. "Sold them all. Sorry, no receipts."


Also a great way to break the law and give them the excuse "they"  are looking for


Yeah seriously get to the back of the bus. When we get off stay away from the non gun owners water fountain and bathroom.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b72/ezec_10O0/1ABE3B52-F6A8-46A8-AA0F-9FEC256D6528-5828-00000720A48813A0.jpg

Too bad I sold my "assault weapons". I might still register a couple thousand random things on dec31  


No joke, I did meet a guy a few years ago at the club shooting an air rifle. We chatted and he told me he sold all his real guns because of all the BS. But he still goes to a gun club?

4/7/2013 10:22:30 AM EDT
[#27]
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Also a great way to break the law and give them the excuse "they"  are looking for


Sure, it would be a great way  be one of the sheep who do whatever their masters tell them to do.

When it comes down to it, it's none of "their" business.