Posted: 1/10/2013 9:49:15 AM EDT
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It has been about 10 years since I took the pistol course. In that time, I've lived by never leaving my firearm in the car. It was ingrained in my head that it always comes with me when I have it. However, lately I've had numerous situations where I decided to leave it at home (even though I did not want to) because I knew I would not be able to keep it on me (Federal building, work clothes, restrictive businesses etc.).
I took a spin through the CDDL pamphlet and looked at some of the CT laws but I didn't see a clear answer about this situation so I figured I would bring it up for discussion. Is it legal to lock a loaded pistol in the glovebox? Does it need to be unloaded? Locked in the trunk unloaded? I would like to be able to have it with me but I can't bring it into my building at work and it is VERY hard to conceal with what I have to wear for work. I just want to make sure I fully understand the rules before I put myself in a situation that I don't want to be in. |
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This is the OLR report that you want to read: http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/rpt/2007-R-0369.htm CT law does not address storage of a pistol in a vehicle. Is it a good idea without a lockbox bolted to the frame? Probably not, but again, there is no law prohibiting storage of a pistol in a vehicle. Storage laws pertain to loaded firearms and access for minors. Transportation of pistols/revolvers when the transporter doesn't have a permit is a whole different ballgame. Oh yeah, unless you are a stripper there is always a way to conceal just about any pistol under workplace attire |
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This is the OLR report that you want to read: http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/rpt/2007-R-0369.htm CT law does not address storage of a pistol in a vehicle. Is it a good idea without a lockbox bolted to the frame? Probably not, but again, there is no law prohibiting storage of a pistol in a vehicle. Storage laws pertain to loaded firearms and access for minors. Transportation of pistols/revolvers when the transporter doesn't have a permit is a whole different ballgame. Oh yeah, unless you are a stripper there is always a way to conceal just about any pistol under workplace attire Thanks for the link. I am not a stripper....I would have WAY more cash money! I do have a S&W Bodyguard with a pocket holster but even that weighs my down and prints (somewhat - if someone knew about firearms, they'd pick it up) through work pants. I also have a G26 that I can carry with an ankle holster, but again, with work pants it tends to print or "show" if I am sitting down. Of course, jeans are a whole different story. No issues there. |
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This is the OLR report that you want to read: http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/rpt/2007-R-0369.htm CT law does not address storage of a pistol in a vehicle. Is it a good idea without a lockbox bolted to the frame? Probably not, but again, there is no law prohibiting storage of a pistol in a vehicle. Storage laws pertain to loaded firearms and access for minors. Transportation of pistols/revolvers when the transporter doesn't have a permit is a whole different ballgame. Oh yeah, unless you are a stripper there is always a way to conceal just about any pistol under workplace attire And even then its not so hard |
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What about this provision though? "The law, with exceptions, prohibits carrying (1) firearms on school property, (2) firearms on Connecticut General Assembly property, (3) loaded handguns in a vehicle, and (4) handguns where barred by law or a property owner." Nevermind....think this covers it..... "Motor Vehicles By law, when handguns are being transported in a motor vehicle, they must be unloaded and kept (1) in a place not readily or directly accessible from the passenger compartment or (2) in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console (CGS § 29-35). A violation carries a penalty of one to five years imprisonment, a fine of up to $1,000, or both, with a mandatory minimum one-year sentence in the absence of mitigating circumstances (CGS § 29-37). When long guns are being transported in a vehicle or snowmobile, they must be unloaded. A violation carries a fine of $10 to $100, imprisonment for up to 30 days or both (CGS § 53-205)." |
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What about this provision though? "The law, with exceptions, prohibits carrying (1) firearms on school property, (2) firearms on Connecticut General Assembly property, (3) loaded handguns in a vehicle, and (4) handguns where barred by law or a property owner." Nevermind....think this covers it..... "Motor Vehicles By law, when handguns are being transported in a motor vehicle, they must be unloaded and kept (1) in a place not readily or directly accessible from the passenger compartment or (2) in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console (CGS § 29-35). A violation carries a penalty of one to five years imprisonment, a fine of up to $1,000, or both, with a mandatory minimum one-year sentence in the absence of mitigating circumstances (CGS § 29-37). When long guns are being transported in a vehicle or snowmobile, they must be unloaded. A violation carries a fine of $10 to $100, imprisonment for up to 30 days or both (CGS § 53-205)." The general restriction on pistols, and other weapons, in motor vehicles is found section 29-38. When referring to pistols or revolvers, one of the elements of the crime that the prosecution has the burden of proving is that the defendant lacked a proper permit. The section cited in the text you are referencing is taken from Carrying a Pistol Without a Permit Prohibited, Exemptions- relates to circumstances when an individual is permitted to transport a pistol or revolver without having a valid permit. (a) Any person who knowingly has, in any vehicle owned, operated or occupied by such person, any weapon, any pistol or revolver for which a proper permit has not been issued as provided in section 29-28 or any machine gun which has not been registered as required by section 53-202, shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than five years or both, and the presence of any such weapon, pistol or revolver, or machine gun in any vehicle shall be prima facie evidence of a violation of this section by the owner, operator and each occupant thereof. The word "weapon", as used in this section, means any BB. gun, any blackjack, any metal or brass knuckles, any police baton or nightstick, any dirk knife or switch knife, any knife having an automatic spring release device by which a blade is released from the handle, having a blade of over one and one-half inches in length, any stiletto, any knife the edged portion of the blade of which is four inches or over in length, any martial arts weapon or electronic defense weapon, as defined in section 53a-3, or any other dangerous or deadly weapon or instrument.
(b) The provisions of this section shall not apply to: (1) Any officer charged with the preservation of the public peace while engaged in the pursuit of such officer's official duties; (2) any security guard having a baton or nightstick in a vehicle while engaged in the pursuit of such guard's official duties; (3) any person enrolled in and currently attending a martial arts school, with official verification of such enrollment and attendance, or any certified martial arts instructor, having any such martial arts weapon in a vehicle while traveling to or from such school or to or from an authorized event or competition; (4) any person having a BB. gun in a vehicle provided such weapon is unloaded and stored in the trunk of such vehicle or in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console; and (5) any person having a knife, the edged portion of the blade of which is four inches or over in length, in a vehicle if such person is (A) any member of the armed forces of the United States, as defined in section 27-103, or any reserve component thereof, or of the armed forces of this state, as defined in section 27-2, when on duty or going to or from duty, (B) any member of any military organization when on parade or when going to or from any place of assembly, (C) any person while transporting such knife as merchandise or for display at an authorized gun or knife show, (D) any person while lawfully removing such person's household goods or effects from one place to another, or from one residence to another, (E) any person while actually and peaceably engaged in carrying any such knife from such person's place of abode or business to a place or person where or by whom such knife is to be repaired, or while actually and peaceably returning to such person's place of abode or business with such knife after the same has been repaired, (F) any person holding a valid hunting, fishing or trapping license issued pursuant to chapter 490 or any salt water fisherman while having such knife in a vehicle for lawful hunting, fishing or trapping activities, or (G) any person participating in an authorized historic reenactment. |
| There is no statute to specifically prohibits the act of storing a handgun, loaded or unloaded, in a motor vehicle OR carrying it off body (e.g. in a glove compartment or console), unless the person does not have a permit to carry. (There could be other issues...) There have been a number of instances where people have been revoked (and had revocations upheld) after they leave a pistol their vehicle and it gets stolen, hence why so many instructors ingrain their students not to leave their weapon in the car. |
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Right, and if you have your permit then you are not transporting it, you are carrying it But what if you have more than 1 pistol in your vehicle? If the extra pistol is less than 20oz unloaded then it needs to ride in a rear-facing booster seat If we get a mag-cap ban, I'm carrying two or three guns. Fuck this 10 round shit. dual-Glock 30's |