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8/19/2009 12:32:04 PM EDT
I know the preferred method of getting evil features is by finding a pre-ban, but I was wondering if anyone has tried or asked about using a Bullet Button to get around the "detachable magazine" definition. I've been looking for a clear definition in CT law of a "detachable magazine", but I've had no luck.
Basically, I'm currently living in California, but I'd like to have my AR shipped to me from Connecticut or build a new one that's CA legal. In California, if I have the bullet button, I can have as many features as I want. The trick is if I move back to CT, I'd rather not reconfigure the rifle.
Does anyone know of the legality of the Bullet Button in CT and whether it would allow you to have unlimited features? Thanks.
8/19/2009 12:37:03 PM EDT
[#1]

DELETED BAD INFORMATION.... SORRY

Sell your AR and buy a Pre-Ban when you get to CT..

Much easier and you end up with a better rig..
8/19/2009 2:13:19 PM EDT
[#2]
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Not unlimited but one more "evil feature"
Be it either colapsable stock, bayo lug or flash hider you would probably be OK but not both..

Sell your AR and buy a Pre-Ban when you get to CT..

Much easier and you end up with a better rig..


If you have a fixed magazine rifle, you can have all the evil features that you want- regardless of date of manufacture. I too have considered the Bullet Button as a way to get around our assault weapons ban, however I have my doubts about whether or not it would be legal. Unlike California, we don't have a definition of what a detachable magzine is. I would personally hate to be have a bullet button equipped rifle examined by a copy on the side of the road, or demonstrated by a DA in front of a jury of 12 liberals- because with a little tool–– the mag drops out very easily. It is a lot different than (say) a fixed SKS magazine.

Your best bet would be to contact the Department of Public Safety Special Licensing and Firearms Unit. Specifically, I would get in touch with SGT Douglas Hall, esq at the following email address: [email protected] I would send him links (especially with photos) that describe how a bullet button works.

Here is a web page with an good explanation: http://www.riflegear.com/p-193-bullet-button-bullet-tool-combo.aspx
8/21/2009 12:39:56 AM EDT
[#3]
+1 i would also like to know if this would make my post ban CT legal seeing as i would rather use one of these than pin the stock and pay to have a break installed and what not, also easier to undo when i leave this state.  if this is legal would i be able to use 30rd mags or 10rd mags?
8/21/2009 4:16:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
+1 i would also like to know if this would make my post ban CT legal seeing as i would rather use one of these than pin the stock and pay to have a break installed and what not, also easier to undo when i leave this state.  if this is legal would i be able to use 30rd mags or 10rd mags?


You can use 30 round mags regardless of the evil feature count in CT.  There is no magazine size restriction here.

But I'm not sure really, mainly because in the scheme of things and the fact that we have to comply with shitty laws, I would still much rather have a removable box magazine then a telescoping stock and a flash suppressor.  
8/26/2009 9:55:35 PM EDT
[#5]
i know CT has no mag laws but something like the bullet button is easier for someone like me who only visits for a few weeks a year do do instead of pinning the stock and break.  if someone has an AR setup like a DMR with a heavy barrel who don't do mag dumps but more bench or long range shooting this would be fine for them.  i would just like to know for personal interest.
8/27/2009 4:22:27 AM EDT
[#6]
You should consult a lawyer if you are planning on moving forward with this.  The reason the bullet button works in California is there law defines detachable as not requiring a tool to remove, etc. To my knowledge, CT law does not have that definition or distinction.  That would mean its open to interpretation, AKA the courts will sort it out.

Personally, I think it is just asking for an assault weapons charge and the loss of your gun rights for life.... but I'm not a lawyer.
8/27/2009 5:22:54 AM EDT
[#7]
I've mentioned this before, and I think that there are a number of us who have seriously considered going this route.  The problem (as already stated) is that CT law does not define what a detachable magazine is, so there's no clarity on whether it would be legal or not.  There's no reason in the world why our legislators would take the time to further clarify that definition in our favor.  The minute they crack open the laws to make some changes, you can be damn sure that they are not going to be ones that we like.  



Spend the extra $300-$400 and get a preban, then just don't worry about it.



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