Posted: 12/3/2008 11:46:15 AM EDT
| Specifically with regard to handguns, does anyone know what firearm, caliber and ammunition the CT State Police use? |
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wonder if I should post this, but they carry/issued glock 22s in .40sw Since when? They have been issuing the Sig P229 in .40S&W 165gr Fed HydraShock for quite some time. I dont know the history, but that is what I got from someone in the state police. they are a relatively recent hire I still wanna know why tho... |
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wait a minute.. why? I was watching a Massad Ayoob lecture and he was talking about how you should be aware of what type of firearm/ammunition your local or State law enforcement carries when considering your self defense firearm/ammunition selection. His thinking is that you should not "carry" anything "more deadly" than they do. The discussion came out of the situation in a Western state where a civilian killed a crazy in self-defense with a 10mm handgun and he was convicted partly on the fact that he carried an "overly powerful" handgun. Anyhow, I realized that I had no idea what the CT State Police carried, so I thought I'd ask. That being said, I guess I should stop carrying my M230 chain gun as my CCW. 
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wonder if I should post this, but they carry/issued glock 22s in .40sw Since when? They have been issuing the Sig P229 in .40S&W 165gr Fed HydraShock for quite some time. This is the 100% correct answer. It's the DA/SA model. The members of the ESU Tactical Team were recently issued custom 1911s by Cerberus Tactical though. |
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I was watching a Massad Ayoob lecture and he was talking about how you should be aware of what type of firearm/ammunition your local or State law enforcement carries when considering your self defense firearm/ammunition selection. His thinking is that you should not "carry" anything "more deadly" than they do. The discussion came out of the situation in a Western state where a civilian killed a crazy in self-defense with a 10mm handgun and he was convicted partly on the fact that he carried an "overly powerful" handgun. 165g hydrashock? No thanks. I'll stick w/180g TAP in my .40 and 230g HST in the .45  I wonder what the jury would think when they saw a pic of HST after expansion 
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wonder if I should post this, but they carry/issued glock 22s in .40sw Since when? They have been issuing the Sig P229 in .40S&W 165gr Fed HydraShock for quite some time. This is the 100% correct answer. It's the DA/SA model. The members of the ESU Tactical Team were recently issued custom 1911s by Cerberus Tactical though. Thise 1911's are sweet!!
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Definitely carry sigs, they made a big deal in the news when they switched from 9mm glocks. They never carried glocks, 9mm Beretta 92fs. I was told by range cadre that the reason why they were using Sig was that Sig gave them the handguns for free and only charged the state for the accessories. Most of them are pretty beat and I heard they are looking for a replacement right now. |
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Definitely carry sigs, they made a big deal in the news when they switched from 9mm glocks. They never carried glocks, 9mm Beretta 92fs. I was told by range cadre that the reason why they were using Sig was that Sig gave them the handguns for free and only charged the state for the accessories. Most of them are pretty beat and I heard they are looking for a replacement right now. I'm pretty sure they carried Glocks, cause I remember reading about someone shooting themselves in the leg while holstering. |
| If you really want to know what make and model gun a police department issues it is much more reliable to look the weapon rather than ask a cop. I have talked to cops who were not able to accurately identify their duty weapon. Just because the job requires a gun does not mean that those who work it know about guns. |
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If you really want to know what make and model gun a police department issues it is much more reliable to look the weapon rather than ask a cop. I have talked to cops who were not able to accurately identify their duty weapon. Just because the job requires a gun does not mean that those who work it know about guns. Funny story: A friend of mine who works in the firearm business noticed an agency local to him just issued new sidearms to patrol officers, the Glock 22. He noticed this and inquired of a local officer about being issued 22s. "Nope, it's a .40." "No, I meant Glock model 22." "No, it's a .40 caliber." "OK. Have a nice day, officer." |
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If you really want to know what make and model gun a police department issues it is much more reliable to look the weapon rather than ask a cop. I have talked to cops who were not able to accurately identify their duty weapon. Just because the job requires a gun does not mean that those who work it know about guns. Funny story: A friend of mine who works in the firearm business noticed an agency local to him just issued new sidearms to patrol officers, the Glock 22. He noticed this and inquired of a local officer about being issued 22s. "Nope, it's a .40." "No, I meant Glock model 22." "No, it's a .40 caliber." "OK. Have a nice day, officer." Well that's pretty good that he at least knew it was a .40 cal.
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CT has always been smart about "yankee trading" when it came to new handguns for State Police.
In 1982, CT made national news for being among the first state wide law enforcement agency to issue HIGH CAPACITY 9mm pistols (the Beretta M-92 SB). They obtained 956 of the then new Berettas in exchange for their entire inventory of just over 1,000 aging revolvers. (I don't remember the exact model they carried then - I was too young. I barely remember the old blue strobe bulb light bars they had on the LTDs with the one large strobe in the center and the two blue blinkers with the metal signs that said "STATE" on side of the strobe and "POLICE" on the other) They weren't the first to issue a PISTOL, though. That distinction went to Illinois, in the late 1960s or early 1970s with the S&W M-39, single stack, 9mm (at one point carried WITHOUT extra ammo!) It seems many State PDs are trending full circle back to large bore handguns: NY and PA just went to .40 or .45 Glocks (one is GAP the other ACP, I forget which went with what). Both departments used to issue .45 LONG COLT revolvers (Cot New Service) until the 1950s when they switched to .38s, then hot .38s and .357s, then 9mms, then .40s and now back full circle to .45s, except in a modern pistol format. What comes around goes around. |
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It seems many State PDs are trending full circle back to large bore handguns: NY and PA just went to .40 or .45 Glocks (one is GAP the other ACP, I forget which went with what). Both departments used to issue .45 LONG COLT revolvers (Cot New Service) until the 1950s when they switched to .38s, then hot .38s and .357s, then 9mms, then .40s and now back full circle to .45s, except in a modern pistol format. The PA State Police recently transitioned from Beretta 96s to Glock 37s. (.45 GAP) |