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2/21/2013 11:19:16 AM EDT
The old man just put a Geisele trigger on his 18" AR. He showed it to me when I stopped by the house a little bit ago.
I told him I'd be glad to go try it out for him but he said he is going to do it himself.
I can't believe what he paid for it - $230. It's just a little better than the one he took out IMO. He does a pretty good job of polishing them up and lowering the trigger pull by using yellow springs of some kind or modifying the original ones.
He sure is getting me some nice stuff for me when he kicks off.
2/21/2013 12:36:49 PM EDT
[#1]
he's giving me one of his M1a's when he kicks the bucket.

I've had a few aftermarket triggers; for total ease of installation and not a half bad trigger pull with just a slight hint of overtravel have him try out the timney drop in fcg.

don't get one of the cmc drop in fcg's, they fuckingsuckassfoam&monkeyspunk; the over travel is as bad as a stock fcg and they're kind of gritty to boot.
2/21/2013 1:02:37 PM EDT
[#2]
He tweaked my factory trigger on one of my extra lowers and installed the RRA 2 stage NM trigger in my Grendel.  The tweaked factory trigger was much better after being Dan'd and the RRA NM trigger is awesome as it is....I love it.
2/21/2013 2:26:44 PM EDT
[#3]
Those "yellow springs" are the reduced power springs from JP Rifles, they do wonders for AR triggers, I have them in ALL of my AR's.
2/21/2013 6:53:10 PM EDT
[#4]
one way you get a improved trigger with lighter (weaker ) springs, but the Gieselle gets there with hell for stout springs.
very noticeably stiffer than USGI.
lighter springs may still reliably fire a cartrige, but if i can can get there with a harder primer strike, i'm for it.
2/21/2013 7:59:02 PM EDT
[#5]
Ive never had a problem with standard issue style triggers. Made my rifle go bang. wasn't broke, didnt fix it.
2/21/2013 8:05:11 PM EDT
[#6]
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Ive never had a problem with standard issue style triggers. Made my rifle go bang. wasn't broke, didnt fix it.

You don't shoot a rifle as well as he does either.

2/21/2013 8:17:47 PM EDT
[#7]
He should go talk to some hajis in Iraq about that
2/21/2013 9:22:36 PM EDT
[#8]
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He should go talk to some hajis in Iraq about that


If he can talk to them, you missed.

2/21/2013 9:46:39 PM EDT
[#9]
I thought my trigger was just fine until we put that RRA NM trigger in and now I've seen the light.  However I think it's too light for a battle rifle but then again maybe not.  It's frickin' sweet on my Grendel and definitely helps with the accuracy. It reminds me of the trigger on my ,S&W PC 629 V-Comp.
2/21/2013 10:46:54 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Those "yellow springs" are the reduced power springs from JP Rifles, they do wonders for AR triggers, I have them in ALL of my AR's.


If you reload and use 'magnum primers' that yellow hammer spring might be too light causin you a few non fires....and a few rounds you'll need to take apart n reload, again.
2/22/2013 6:11:35 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
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He should go talk to some hajis in Iraq about that


If he can talk to them, you missed.



If he can talk with them, he can speak haji better then me... And that was a rhetorical statement
2/22/2013 8:10:27 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Those "yellow springs" are the reduced power springs from JP Rifles, they do wonders for AR triggers, I have them in ALL of my AR's.


If you reload and use 'magnum primers' that yellow hammer spring might be too light causin you a few non fires....and a few rounds you'll need to take apart n reload, again.


cut the tail piece off the hammer ala jp "speed" hammer and the stock fcg is gtg with the yellow springs on even surplus primers.

course if it's a concern jp makes a set of "red" springs too and iirc the spring rate is in between the yellow and stock springs.

2/23/2013 3:38:31 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Those "yellow springs" are the reduced power springs from JP Rifles, they do wonders for AR triggers, I have them in ALL of my AR's.


If you reload and use 'magnum primers' that yellow hammer spring might be too light causin you a few non fires....and a few rounds you'll need to take apart n reload, again.


cut the tail piece off the hammer ala jp "speed" hammer and the stock fcg is gtg with the yellow springs on even surplus primers.

course if it's a concern jp makes a set of "red" springs too and iirc the spring rate is in between the yellow and stock springs.



The old man cut the tail of one hammer but decided it really didn't make much difference. He's not real high on changing stock items too radically.
I remember him taking me to a friend's house to use his mill to modify a hammer out of an M14. He said he did it right straight out of some match building manual he had but it didn't work at all. I've seen take a trigger and smooth the sear (?) up on a side of some pliers. He said steel against steel is the best way to polish a trigger. He's got some kind of jig to put some type of trigger on and smooth it with a hard arkansas.
But I'm sure he'd say you can take Nden's word to the bank about guns but not to trust him with money or your wife.