Posted: 2/6/2013 5:19:41 PM EDT
I got an email notification that Midway had them in stock. 30 minutes later I got on their website to order a spare and they were already sold out! 
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there's a saying about snoozing that covers that. I texted two buddies asking if they wanted one too right after I got the email. One said yes, one said no. I could have just taken care of myself but my partners take care of me in situations like that so WE all lost out. I've already got one spare for a couple of rifles but it doesn't hurt to have several. My old man taught me that. |
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I got an email notification that Midway had them in stock. 30 minutes later I got on their website to order a spare and they were already sold out! Did your dad tell you not to store spare parts in the safe at night, because the breed in the dark? they turn into spare rifles! 
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I got an email notification that Midway had them in stock. 30 minutes later I got on their website to order a spare and they were already sold out! Did your dad tell you not to store spare parts in the safe at night, because the breed in the dark? they turn into spare rifles! He's got enough M14 parts to build a M1A but hasn't done it yet. Quoted:
buy the steel ones and they don't bend as easy  Probably will.
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I got an email notification that Midway had them in stock. 30 minutes later I got on their website to order a spare and they were already sold out! Did your dad tell you not to store spare parts in the safe at night, because the breed in the dark? they turn into spare rifles! He's got enough M14 parts to build a M1A but hasn't done it yet. Quoted:
buy the steel ones and they don't bend as easy Probably will.
you know if you never unload your rifle you only need to use a charging handle once 
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I need to find an extended one because I can barely reach the one on my Grendel under the scope. You can buy just an extended lever to install on your existing charging handle. I looked at those, most had terrible reviews and the ones with good reviews said they work well with half of those suggesting buying the complete extended charging handle and skip the PIA installation. I looked at the BCM Gunfighter with the large extension and it looks exactly like what I need so I'm gonna go that rout once I get a new card, slimy scumbags have gotten my card info again and charging stuff to my account. |
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I need to find an extended one because I can barely reach the one on my Grendel under the scope. You can buy just an extended lever to install on your existing charging handle. I looked at those, most had terrible reviews and the ones with good reviews said they work well with half of those suggesting buying the complete extended charging handle and skip the PIA installation. I looked at the BCM Gunfighter with the large extension and it looks exactly like what I need so I'm gonna go that rout once I get a new card, slimy scumbags have gotten my card info again and charging stuff to my account. Dad has one with the big lever as a spare he might let you try. |
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you running the bolt dry or wet?
I don't own a grendel but hell it might suffer the same as an AR10 and need the bolt wet/lubed up as hell to run good. or course you might have to find a mag it likes too; lots of semi autos feed issues are mag related; as for the ejection it might have a weak ejector or extractor spring; or the ejector is hanging up/dragging a bit; hell it could be a number of things; it might just have to be shot a lot to "break in". |
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I thought I had the Grendel lined out but today's range trip ended up with more failure to eject, failure to feed, stove pipes....Brandi unhappy  Same magazine as last time or different one? Same magazine, the new ones are still months away at best. |
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you running the bolt dry or wet? I don't own a grendel but hell it might suffer the same as an AR10 and need the bolt wet/lubed up as hell to run good. or course you might have to find a mag it likes too; lots of semi autos feed issues are mag related; as for the ejection it might have a weak ejector or extractor spring; or the ejector is hanging up/dragging a bit; hell it could be a number of things; it might just have to be shot a lot to "break in". First time I ran it wet but today I ran it drier but not bone dry of course. I don't know how I can break it in if it won't shoot enough to do anything. I'm going to have to have someone look at it. Today it actually damaged the lower where the rounds eject so no more shooting until someone looks at it . The only bright side was it was easy to put shots through the same hole not even off a sandbag or bipod.
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you running the bolt dry or wet? I don't own a grendel but hell it might suffer the same as an AR10 and need the bolt wet/lubed up as hell to run good. or course you might have to find a mag it likes too; lots of semi autos feed issues are mag related; as for the ejection it might have a weak ejector or extractor spring; or the ejector is hanging up/dragging a bit; hell it could be a number of things; it might just have to be shot a lot to "break in". First time I ran it wet but today I ran it drier but not bone dry of course. I don't know how I can break it in if it won't shoot enough to do anything. I'm going to have to have someone look at it. Today it actually damaged the lower where the rounds eject so no more shooting until someone looks at it . The only bright side was it was easy to put shots through the same hole not even off a sandbag or bipod.
Any suggestions for a gunsmith or someone who can figure out what's wrong with it? can you post pics of what/where you say was damaged? really sounds like a mag issue; I wouldn't waste any funds with a smith at this point until you get the other mags in and try running it with them; if it still has constant failures with the new mags then it could possibly have issues or you may have gotten bad mags. other things to look at/consider is buffer & spring; are they standard weight or heavy/extra power and what ammo are you shooting? |
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Nden - case problems I.e. too thin a case rim? Ammo mfg problem? Ammo out of spec?
It it is dragging on a too stiff mag spring you wii get double feeds, failure to eject, etc? If the lower runs fine on 556' it should run fine on 6.8? It would probably be best to compile a list of probable causes then eliminate them one at a time. |
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Sounds a little like over/under gassing.
I've got to get an adjustable gb for my .308 to slow it down a bit (especially for when the suppressor is on). I had a carbine length gassed .300AAC barrel and it wouldn't strip the next round, had FTF and FTE issues. Switched to a pistol gassed barrel and it ran like a top. |
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Nden - case problems I.e. too thin a case rim? Ammo mfg problem? Ammo out of spec? It it is dragging on a too stiff mag spring you wii get double feeds, failure to eject, etc? If the lower runs fine on 556' it should run fine on 6.8? It would probably be best to compile a list of probable causes then eliminate them one at a time. just trying to get an idea of the issues; hard to arm chair diagnose issues. |
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Sounds a little like over/under gassing. I've got to get an adjustable gb for my .308 to slow it down a bit (especially for when the suppressor is on). I had a carbine length gassed .300AAC barrel and it wouldn't strip the next round, had FTF and FTE issues. Switched to a pistol gassed barrel and it ran like a top. A leak at the bolt carryer key will also do this. |
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Double feeds are almost always mag problems. She did mention double feeds in an earlier post. didn't see that; all I seen were "failure to eject, failure to feed, stove pipes.....Brandi unhappy" meh.....most of the time all I hear a chick saying is "bla bla bla bla bla bla..........bla bla bla bla ect ect" anyway; the only time I really pay attention to what they're saying is when they say "bla bla bla bla bla bla..........bla bla bla bla ect ect wannahavesex?" 
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Double feeds are almost always mag problems. She did mention double feeds in an earlier post. Ah... All I see in this thread was FTE FTF and stovepipes... My memory is meh
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Double feeds are almost always mag problems. She did mention double feeds in an earlier post. didn't see that; all I seen were "failure to eject, failure to feed, stove pipes.....Brandi unhappy" meh.....most of the time all I hear a chick saying is "bla bla bla bla bla bla..........bla bla bla bla ect ect" anyway; the only time I really pay attention to what they're saying is when they say "bla bla bla bla bla bla..........bla bla bla bla ect ect wannahavesex?"
I'll bet you don't hear that too often either.
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Double feeds are almost always mag problems. She did mention double feeds in an earlier post. didn't see that; all I seen were "failure to eject, failure to feed, stove pipes.....Brandi unhappy" meh.....most of the time all I hear a chick saying is "bla bla bla bla bla bla..........bla bla bla bla ect ect" anyway; the only time I really pay attention to what they're saying is when they say "bla bla bla bla bla bla..........bla bla bla bla ect ect wannahavesex?"
I'll bet you don't hear that too often either.
Your dad hears it all the time at biker bars after successfully suck-starting a Harley! 
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you running the bolt dry or wet? I don't own a grendel but hell it might suffer the same as an AR10 and need the bolt wet/lubed up as hell to run good. or course you might have to find a mag it likes too; lots of semi autos feed issues are mag related; as for the ejection it might have a weak ejector or extractor spring; or the ejector is hanging up/dragging a bit; hell it could be a number of things; it might just have to be shot a lot to "break in". First time I ran it wet but today I ran it drier but not bone dry of course. I don't know how I can break it in if it won't shoot enough to do anything. I'm going to have to have someone look at it. Today it actually damaged the lower where the rounds eject so no more shooting until someone looks at it . The only bright side was it was easy to put shots through the same hole not even off a sandbag or bipod.
Any suggestions for a gunsmith or someone who can figure out what's wrong with it? Brandi, grab a chair and read this http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_66/210213_Troubleshooting_Checklist.html take notes, and work your way through the list methodically. its just a machine, its not mysterious. it ain't a big deal. |
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Double feeds are almost always mag problems. She did mention double feeds in an earlier post. didn't see that; all I seen were "failure to eject, failure to feed, stove pipes.....Brandi unhappy" meh.....most of the time all I hear a chick saying is "bla bla bla bla bla bla..........bla bla bla bla ect ect" anyway; the only time I really pay attention to what they're saying is when they say "bla bla bla bla bla bla..........bla bla bla bla ect ect wannahavesex?"
I'll bet you don't hear that too often either.
Your dad hears it all the time at biker bars after successfully suck-starting a Harley!
That ain't! True. Mom would kick his overly large ass if he hung out at a biker bar.
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Double feeds are almost always mag problems. She did mention double feeds in an earlier post. didn't see that; all I seen were "failure to eject, failure to feed, stove pipes.....Brandi unhappy" meh.....most of the time all I hear a chick saying is "bla bla bla bla bla bla..........bla bla bla bla ect ect" anyway; the only time I really pay attention to what they're saying is when they say "bla bla bla bla bla bla..........bla bla bla bla ect ect wannahavesex?"
I'll bet you don't hear that too often either.
not as often as I use to
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Double feeds are almost always mag problems. She did mention double feeds in an earlier post. didn't see that; all I seen were "failure to eject, failure to feed, stove pipes.....Brandi unhappy" meh.....most of the time all I hear a chick saying is "bla bla bla bla bla bla..........bla bla bla bla ect ect" anyway; the only time I really pay attention to what they're saying is when they say "bla bla bla bla bla bla..........bla bla bla bla ect ect wannahavesex?"
I'll bet you don't hear that too often either.
Your dad hears it all the time at biker bars after successfully suck-starting a Harley!
That ain't! True. Mom would kick his overly large ass if he hung out at a biker bar.
that's what PC said Dan's hanging out; his overly large ass 
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Brandi, grab a chair and read this http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_66/210213_Troubleshooting_Checklist.html take notes, and work your way through the list methodically. its just a machine, its not mysterious. it ain't a big deal. Brandi, hotdog put up some good stuff there. Print it out if you can!
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Brandi, grab a chair and read this http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_66/210213_Troubleshooting_Checklist.html take notes, and work your way through the list methodically. its just a machine, its not mysterious. it ain't a big deal. Brandi, hotdog put up some good stuff there. Print it out if you can!
I've been reading it...most of it I've done but I didn't think of shooting it with a single round each time to see how it performs. It'll be awhile before I can get to the range again . I sure miss living where I could just step out back of the house and shoot in the pasture without any issues...I'd have this figured out by now.
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Double feeds are almost always mag problems. She did mention double feeds in an earlier post. Ah... All I see in this thread was FTE FTF and stovepipes... My memory is meh
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as in bolt short stroking & not ejecting the case fully then riding back down over the next round in the mag. or simple mag related issues and/or insufficient lube on the bcg, weak buffer spring etc. next time out try chambering one and 3 in the mag; when you fire one round load two more into the mag and see if it runs or if it malfunctions; sometimes mags take a bit of tweaking/breaking in also. of course if you got extra mags label each of them and fire function check all of them to see if you've got a bad mag(s). the fired cases have flat primers & ejector swipes on them; check out the following pics of similar swipes: if you've got different brand of ammo try it out also and see if it's the ammo at fault; sometimes you get a bad lot or brand your rifle doesn't like, or your rifle has a tighter chamber/bore that causes ammo pressure issues etc.  |
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I only have one mag and there's no more out there. I have several new one's on order from Alexander Arms but Bill A. said they are slow coming in. The ammo is all from one lot (I bought 500 rounds of Hornady 123 grain A-Max).
The buffer spring is also brand new (I know that they can be bad from the factory). Here's the link to the other thread I posted my problem on that has lot's more pics of the gun too. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_453/231537_.html&page=1&anc=1945649 |
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I only have one mag and there's no more out there. I have several new one's on order from Alexander Arms but Bill A. said they are slow coming in. The ammo is all from one lot (I bought 500 rounds of Hornady 123 grain A-Max). The buffer spring is also brand new (I know that they can be bad from the factory). Here's the link to the other thread I posted my problem on that has lot's more pics of the gun too. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_453/231537_.html&page=1&anc=1945649 try disassembling your mag; make sure the follower isn't dragging; knock all the sharp edges down & smooth things up a bit; clean it good; spray the body inside with dry lube; reassemble and give it a try. look at the first pic I posted; it's a 6.5 grendel case; the pics you posted have flattened primers in addition to the ejector swipes. my Ar10 had the same issues as you're describing with your grendel; mine was a combo of issues; the bcg was tight; continual issues with the gen 1 mags until I cleaned them up like I described above; and I started running the bcg wet as hell and put a 4oz tubbs carrier weight system to slow it down a bit and I shot the hell out of it until it broke/wore in. hell I couldn't make it through a 10 round mag without 3 or more "jams" until I did like the above. of course clean your mag up and try it with different ammo too; it might be something as simple as that. |
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Here's the pics I could get of the damage done to the brass: Maybe it will help? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/Brandiwynter/IMG_0043_zps91a3dcdf.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/Brandiwynter/IMG_0042_zps22bf7a91.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/Brandiwynter/IMG_0039_zpsc4f46aed.jpg brandi is all the brass thats get chamber creasing like the top picture ,looks like the barrel extenstion is a little tight and does it have m4 ramps ? looks like that fat ass case having problems chambering
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I only have one mag and there's no more out there. I have several new one's on order from Alexander Arms but Bill A. said they are slow coming in. The ammo is all from one lot (I bought 500 rounds of Hornady 123 grain A-Max). The buffer spring is also brand new (I know that they can be bad from the factory). Here's the link to the other thread I posted my problem on that has lot's more pics of the gun too. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_453/231537_.html&page=1&anc=1945649 try disassembling your mag; make sure the follower isn't dragging; knock all the sharp edges down & smooth things up a bit; clean it good; spray the body inside with dry lube; reassemble and give it a try. look at the first pic I posted; it's a 6.5 grendel case; the pics you posted have flattened primers in addition to the ejector swipes. my Ar10 had the same issues as you're describing with your grendel; mine was a combo of issues; the bcg was tight; continual issues with the gen 1 mags until I cleaned them up like I described above; and I started running the bcg wet as hell and put a 4oz tubbs carrier weight system to slow it down a bit and I shot the hell out of it until it broke/wore in. hell I couldn't make it through a 10 round mag without 3 or more "jams" until I did like the above. of course clean your mag up and try it with different ammo too; it might be something as simple as that. Dad has a high opinion of Nden when it comes to what he says about firearms. Not much else though.
I've seen the old man blacksmith mags to get them to work many times over the years. He will hone the feedl lips to smooth out edges, change springs around, spray silicone lube inside the mag, etc. Listen to Nden. |
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I need to find an extended one because I can barely reach the one on my Grendel under the scope. You can buy just an extended lever to install on your existing charging handle. I looked at those, most had terrible reviews and the ones with good reviews said they work well with half of those suggesting buying the complete extended charging handle and skip the PIA installation. I looked at the BCM Gunfighter with the large extension and it looks exactly like what I need so I'm gonna go that rout once I get a new card, slimy scumbags have gotten my card info again and charging stuff to my account. If your having issues reaching the CH cause the scope, have you tried gripping the CH from only the latch side and giving it a tug? I do this all the time, no problems. |
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could be it's an over gassing issue like suggested above due to over sized gas port or whatever reason; if it is you can put an adjustable gas block/gas tube/pigtail on it; or sometimes the carrier weight system with extra power buffer spring and heavier buffer is enough extra weight to slow down the carrier rebound.
if it is an over gassing issue the adjustable block/pigtail/tube could be the cheaper option than the heavy buffer/spring/cws combo; the cheapest option is drilling a small hole into the gas tube and putting a screw in it to slow down the gas flow (start with a small screw and increase size until you slow flow enough); once you find the correct size put some red loctite or jbweld on the screw to keep it from working out. |