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7/17/2009 4:43:30 PM EDT
Well looks like Danc46 got the old ban hammer!

From what he said, he was being his usual self, and someone got pissy.  We all know where it originated.....I won't say, lest I get teh ban.

It's a shame...an active, opinated memeber that goes out of his way to help others gets banned over bullshit!  Let's not forget he took an unknown (to us) member of this site from another state out to a private range while the guy was in town.  He is the kind of guy that makes arfcom a good place.  But he's here no more do to thin skinned little girls!
7/17/2009 5:03:28 PM EDT
[#1]
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




ok who and what and where??????????



just give me a cluewhos to blame........
7/17/2009 5:20:41 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
<snip>


just give me a cluewhos to blame........


Here's a clue––he has no one to blame but himself.  No one.
7/17/2009 5:36:25 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Quoted:
<snip>


just give me a cluewhos to blame........


Here's a clue––he has no one to blame but himself.  No one.


Fuck that!!!!  Get off his back.  Who was the little fuckin' weasel this time?  Or is it the same troll bitch that starts all the trouble around here?
7/17/2009 5:50:13 PM EDT
[#4]
Half the moderators and staff here have had to warn or lock him. He had something like 10 locks and warnings. Kind of did not get the message.
7/17/2009 6:56:13 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
<snip>


just give me a cluewhos to blame........


Here's a clue––he has no one to blame but himself.  No one.


Fuck that!!!!  Get off his back.  Who was the little fuckin' weasel this time?  Or is it the same troll bitch that starts all the trouble around here?


+1    Dan is a stand up guy.

7/17/2009 7:05:21 PM EDT
[#6]
WOW.....two of the biggest site staff, whom I respect, pop off in just over an hour.........I guess he who must no be named keeps pretty tight tabs on th OKHTF waiting to tattle.

With that said, Dan will be missed.....while opinionated and pulling off bad jokes, he was a true asset to the ARFCOM world!  He ruffled some feathers to be sure, but he would help anyone at anytime!

I've seen some of the threads he got in trouble over, he simply had the least popular point of view and defended it strongly.  He called people names, only after he was called worse!  But politics rule, even on this site.  

I've had my hand slapped here, and I had to stop what I was doing, even though I was in the right.  But that's life, I guess.
7/17/2009 7:05:24 PM EDT
[#7]
He was my 'M1 Guru'! What do I do now
7/17/2009 7:06:49 PM EDT
[#8]
Let Dan's name be forever written in the ARFCOM Book.  He is a good man, helpful man, generous man, and opinionated man.  He will be missed.
7/17/2009 7:07:53 PM EDT
[#9]
he may be a barrel of monkeys in person, but he's a rock head on the internet. he has been warned again and again, and starts up over and over again. I don't think he ever had any intention of knocking off the confrontational trolling, he was going to keep it up until we finally got fed up and booted him.You could warn him and take away his posting priviledges in the ar ammo forum for doing something, and 10 minutes later he would be doing the same thing in the handgun ammo forum, there was just no stopping him or reasoning with him. Fran kly we waste WAY too much time warning and trying to get people to behave who just aren't going to. I just looked at someone else's list over something he posted in GD. 9 warnings and a couple of locks over two years, always for the same stuff and a bunch of the locks were "well this is the last time" too  5% of the people here cause 50% of the problems over and over

7/17/2009 7:15:18 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
he may be a barrel of monkeys in person, but he's a rock head on the internet. he has been warned again and again, and starts up over and over again. I don't think he ever had any intention of knocking off the confrontational trolling, he was going to keep it up until we finally got fed up and booted him.You could warn him and take away his posting priviledges in the ar ammo forum for doing something, and 10 minutes later he would be doing the same thing in the handgun ammo forum, Wasn't this the same moderator who banned him for something that was said in another forum? there was just no stopping him or reasoning with him. Fran kly we waste WAY too much time warning and trying to get people to behave who just aren't going to. I just looked at someone else's list over something he posted in GD. 9 warnings and a couple of locks over two years, always for the same stuff and a bunch of the locks were "well this is the last time" too  5% of the people here cause 50% of the problems over and over



He was just opinionated is all....and it pissed some people off enough to complain.

ETA:  Aimless.....look at our join dates....I've been here as long as you (longer than you actually), I just don't have time to post as much.  I've seen the trolls and assholes, and I can assure you Dan is not one of them.
7/17/2009 7:25:01 PM EDT
[#11]
fuckmefunny
7/18/2009 3:00:12 AM EDT
[#12]
Is this permanant or just a temp ban?
7/18/2009 3:15:01 AM EDT
[#13]



Quoted:



Quoted:

he may be a barrel of monkeys in person, but he's a rock head on the internet. he has been warned again and again, and starts up over and over again. I don't think he ever had any intention of knocking off the confrontational trolling, he was going to keep it up until we finally got fed up and booted him.You could warn him and take away his posting priviledges in the ar ammo forum for doing something, and 10 minutes later he would be doing the same thing in the handgun ammo forum, Wasn't this the same moderator who banned him for something that was said in another forum? there was just no stopping him or reasoning with him. Fran kly we waste WAY too much time warning and trying to get people to behave who just aren't going to. I just looked at someone else's list over something he posted in GD. 9 warnings and a couple of locks over two years, always for the same stuff and a bunch of the locks were "well this is the last time" too  5% of the people here cause 50% of the problems over and over







He was just opinionated is all....and it pissed some people off enough to complain.



ETA:  Aimless.....look at our join dates....I've been here as long as you (longer than you actually), I just don't have time to post as much.  I've seen the trolls and assholes, and I can assure you Dan is not one of them.



I have no idea what the part in red means. I know I am repeating myself, but warning and temp locking him seems to have no effect on his behavior in the past. I don't know what else to say, we warned and locked him quite a few times to try to avoid having to boot him yet it seemed to have no impression on him.



 
7/18/2009 3:48:05 AM EDT
[#14]
If you wanna settle Dan down make him a Moderator.....Then he could ban the little trolls that to run and tattle in order to start shit all the time.  OR better yet, just ban the little trolls and we could get on with things as usual.   Dan's a good guy, and he can rub people the wrong way on occasion, but who can say they are not the same at times?
7/18/2009 5:13:58 AM EDT
[#15]
Dan emailed me some of the details.



I've been called "an insane idiot" by Zhukov several times. I called him a smart ass prick a few times and got locked for that. After I'd been banned in one forum I've never posted in and another only seldom.
Zhukov is a moderator for both.
Garand_Shooter has called me "union scum", "union lowlife", union dirt bag. etc.
No response when I reported him. He's a moderator.
I got an account warning for "trolling" in the survival forum.
One guy called me a big mouthed mother fucker. I stayed nice but he and the moderator didn't agree with me.
I got suspended by one of the cop moderators/administrators for saying "you must be dumb as a rock".
This last lock came because some guy said "you suffer from paranoid delusions" and "you have voices in your head.
He reported me after I called him a EWE a couple of times. DK-prof sent me a warning, Northcal_LEO locked my account "indefinitely".
I know I tried to log on yesterday morning early and it came back Account Denied or some such crap.
I don't even care to try logging on.
I've been the discussion on the moderator forum several times and I've been told our old buddy ripped my ass a new one.
I'm pegged as a cop basher because I hate the no knock warrants and the SWAT shit so many of the wannabe bad boy cops aspire too. I've been vocal about it.
They don't like it.
And looks like they made sure I'll never do it again or just got even.



Sounds like the mods that are involved are chips off the Obama rock, doing what they want with their double standards.

Most likely I'll get locked for posting this. C'est la vie. Some people can dish it out but can't take it. Guess that is how you become a mod.
7/18/2009 5:37:09 AM EDT
[#16]
gheesch....

I spent just about 10years in LEO and I do agree with dan........





waaaaaa someone got called a few little names....
and some people take the internets way too damn seriously.......
7/18/2009 6:27:32 AM EDT
[#17]

Ouch!

Quoted:


Here's a clue––he has no one to blame but himself.  No one.


Awww....C'mon!
You're really gonna' try to sit there and give me no credit whatsoever!?

That's total bullshit, man.....that's what I think.
(and I mean that in the nicest way possible)
_________________________


Yeah....obviously tho', I don't have any idea or info about the situation, but you know...I should at least get some of the blame since I am a moderator of a board which deserves it's own sticky thread (in all CAPS) on the OKHTF.


I really don't see why so much sand in so many vaginas over the deal anyway......it seems pretty cut-and-dry to me:
Follow the rules = not banned
Break the rules = banned
Now, where exactly is the big riddle here?


Eh, oh well......
7/18/2009 6:53:21 AM EDT
[#18]
[span style='font-weight: bold;']Quoted:
I have no idea what the part in red means. I know I am repeating myself, but warning and temp locking him seems to have no effect on his behavior in the past. I don't know what else to say, we warned and locked him quite a few times to try to avoid having to boot him yet it seemed to have no impression on him.
 


Why the need to defend your actions anyway?
It's not like you owe anyone an explanation for the obvious, and particularly those with remedial reading comprehension at best.
(er...this is not in any way intended as an indictment of the OKHTF as a whole)

Remember:
Anything you say can and will be used against you in a HTF kangaroo court of non-law.


I mean, you're essentially appealing to those who mock and will smite thee for banishing their HTF God...his royal assholiness.
...and if birds are indeed of a feather, they'll be gunning for me now (again) for posting this....on the HTF, as well as on the street.
(Yeah, that's right folks.... they really do make it that damn personal.)

7/18/2009 7:08:10 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
gheesch....

I spent just about 10years in LEO and I do agree with dan........





waaaaaa someone got called a few little names....
and some people take the internets way too damn seriously.......

If you don't mind me asking......
Why did they let you go?


I agree w/ you tho', they take it way to seriously......when people are making physical threats on others for bullshit on the internet, then it's time for them to check themselves.

7/18/2009 7:17:40 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:
gheesch....

I spent just about 10years in LEO and I do agree with dan........





waaaaaa someone got called a few little names....
and some people take the internets way too damn seriously.......

If you don't mind me asking......
Why did they let you go?


I agree w/ you tho', they take it way to seriously......when people are making physical threats on others for bullshit on the internet, then it's time for them to check themselves.





I worked many differnt depts....
always too damn much politics,infighting,BS, and THOSE THAT THINK THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW....
but the internet is just a keyboard and a screen......

untill someone tries to stab you with a sharpend spoon,IT DON'T MEAN SH*T.......
7/18/2009 7:57:19 AM EDT
[#21]
I don't know Dan personally but when I first came to this okhtf or whatever he was real friendly and welcoming towards me. And when I got pissy about the coyote pup deal he was the only one to PM me apologizing and telling me not to take things personal. That to me says a lot about a guy I've never met. Maybe he is an asshole on here but it seems to me he gets more punishment than opposing parties. Just because someone has MOD beside there name doesn't make them ARFCOM GOD, and doesn't mean they have the right to become ARFCOM NAZI. You think I don't understand he was warned or locked x number if times before this but I get it so save your fingers. Obviously what you were doing wasn't working but banning a guy is some cry baby bullshit. Man the fucj up. It's the Internet. Sorry your too much off a baby and got your feelings hurt. Sticks and stones?  I'm rubber you're glue? I thought high schools had filters to block sites like this, much less let snot nosed Internet commando prick students run it. If you're an LEO woopti fuckin doo. I'm a farmer. Who gives a shit?  Next time your patrol car is stuck in the ditch I'll just keep on driving by in my tractor. That'll show you!! O noes! Gonna get banned for that one! Waa waa I'm not gonna pull you out of the snow waa waa better ban me.



But what do I know? I'm just a dumbass redneck frat daddy wanna be ohp college kid. Right?
7/18/2009 8:56:23 AM EDT
[#22]
^^^^^^
See?

*ouch*
7/18/2009 9:00:00 AM EDT
[#23]
[span style='font-weight: bold;']Quoted:

I worked many differnt depts....
always too damn much politics,infighting,BS, and THOSE THAT THINK THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW....
but the internet is just a keyboard and a screen......

untill someone tries to stab you with a sharpend spoon,IT DON'T MEAN SH*T.......

Many depts in 10 years?
Damn, man.....sounds like it just was not the right line of work for you.
Yeah, I'd be looking to get out as well...

7/18/2009 9:03:18 AM EDT
[#24]
Least he could've been locked down to the OKHTF and not completely banned.

I enjoyed reading his posts here.
7/18/2009 9:54:20 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
^^^^^^
See?

*ouch*


Sorry that rant wasn't directed towards you or anyone in particular. Just my feelings on the situation.  Nothing I say will change the outcome so just thought I would get that off my chest. I got a little more worked up than I intended.
7/18/2009 10:39:13 AM EDT
[#26]
I would like to read the post for myself and see if Dan was out of line or just being Dan or if someone is just being a candyass and can` t take it, Dan always calls it the way he see it and should have the right to express his opinion, Most of the time I agreed with Dan and sometime not but he made some good points and like to debate the issue, is this why we have this fourm ?  Let us read the post and let us make the call if Dan should be ban or not.
7/18/2009 10:52:25 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
[span style='font-weight: bold;']Quoted:
I have no idea what the part in red means. I know I am repeating myself, but warning and temp locking him seems to have no effect on his behavior in the past. I don't know what else to say, we warned and locked him quite a few times to try to avoid having to boot him yet it seemed to have no impression on him.
 


Why the need to defend your actions anyway?
It's not like you owe anyone an explanation for the obvious, and particularly those with remedial reading comprehension at best.
(er...this is not in any way intended as an indictment of the OKHTF as a whole)

Remember:
Anything you say can and will be used against you in a HTF kangaroo court of non-law.


I mean, you're essentially appealing to those who mock and will smite thee for banishing their HTF God...his royal assholiness.
...and if birds are indeed of a feather, they'll be gunning for me now (again) for posting this....on the HTF, as well as on the street.
(Yeah, that's right folks.... they really do make it that damn personal.)



Please just go away. Why must you insist on coming over here and stir crap? Grow up.

Let me address your last statement. I dont really know what its about but heres a bit of advice. Dont say something to someone on the net that you wouldn't say to thier face. Or just be a man and accept the consequences (without being a whiny bitch).

7/18/2009 11:28:10 AM EDT
[#28]
Well damn. I'm not going to say anything that I wouldn't or haven't said to Dan's face. I will probably call him later to give him "a stern talking to"

Dan is one of a very few people that I consider a friend. Hell, he drove a hour and a half down here to help me wire my new reloading shop when he barely knew me. He has been an asset to the OKHTF. We have been more than a group on the internet. We regularly have get togethers, mostly started by Dan. He has helped out many members, without asking for anything in return. He is one of those rare guys that would give you the shirt off his back.

Dan suffers from something that I struggle with too. That is knowing when to shut up. I seem to be a lot better at controlling this than he does though.

Dan likes to argue. He is also retired, which gives him more time to do it

He generally thinks that he is always right. Add this to the statement above and...........

He says what he thinks. Which is not always the smartest thing to do. I know this from experience too

I would like to see him be able to remain on the HTF anyway. I dont think that any of our members here would disagree, except for our troll, that is.

7/18/2009 12:30:39 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Quoted:
^^^^^^
See?

*ouch*


Sorry that rant wasn't directed towards you or anyone in particular. Just my feelings on the situation.  Nothing I say will change the outcome so just thought I would get that off my chest. I got a little more worked up than I intended.

Hey...Don't apologize to this guy!  He's part of the problem!  Notice everytime shit stirs up around here he shows up to start pushing buttons and trying to piss people off.  Grow up JP.  Do you not have a website of your own to moderate?  Damn dude!  We don't go there being a problem, don't come here being one.  Post up and be a positive part of the group or get lost!
7/18/2009 12:55:14 PM EDT
[#30]


Dan suffers from something that I struggle with too. That is knowing when to shut up. I seem to be a lot better at controlling this than he does though.

Dan likes to argue. He is also retired, which gives him more time to do it

He generally thinks that he is always right. Add this to the statement above and...........

He says what he thinks. Which is not always the smartest thing to do. I know this from experience too

I would like to see him be able to remain on the HTF anyway. I dont think that any of our members here would disagree, except for our troll, that is.




Chuck, You are so right! Right about everything except your last line.

And, Dan didn't need any help from anyone here in the OKHTF getting himself banned this time, so called trolls included.

Dan just could not learn to play by the rules and would not listen to good advice from his friends.

As stated earlier, Obey rules=not banned
                            DON'T obey rules=BANNED

It looks like it finally caught up with him.

7/18/2009 1:11:05 PM EDT
[#31]
It looks like it finally caught up with him.

Yeah Mack...I'll give you that.  BUT how bad was it REALLY?  Come on now!  Everyone knew Dan was a fiesty cuss. and if they would have taken the time to laugh it off instead of taking it personally this shit would not be happening.  Dan is Dan, Mack is Mack, Chuck is Chuck, Higgi is Higgi, and so on.  People need to get off the power trips, and people hell bent on causing trouble need to jump back...Dan included sometimes!  Hell me too for that matter.
7/18/2009 1:13:37 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
^^^^^^
See?

*ouch*


Sorry that rant wasn't directed towards you or anyone in particular. Just my feelings on the situation.  Nothing I say will change the outcome so just thought I would get that off my chest. I got a little more worked up than I intended.

Hey...Don't apologize to this guy!  He's part of the problem!  Notice everytime shit stirs up around here he shows up to start pushing buttons and trying to piss people off.  Grow up JP.  Do you not have a website of your own to moderate?  Damn dude!  We don't go there being a problem, don't come here being one.  Post up and be a positive part of the group or get lost!



you're right. I went back and read everything he has posted and he has just been trying to get someone to tell him off so he can be a vagina and cry about so maybe he'll get another person booted. Come to think of it I have only seen JP post in here once before, the last time Dan got booted!!! He knows we like Dan and will stand up for him. JP needs to stfu or gtfo. We don't need a little prick starting trouble and messing up something good. The REAL arfcom mods need to put JP on a leash. go ahead, cry to daddy about it u whiny bitch, there are plenty of guys on here that agree with me. Congratulations on proving to us all what a spineless troll you are.

But what do I know? I'm just a 22 year old dumbass redneck backwoods hilljack frat rat farmer/rancher consevative college kid that has gotten laid more times A-Rod. I know nothing right?  

I get so fired up but then I just remember that inspirational poster....
ARGUING ON THE INTERNET IS LIKE WINNING FIRST IN THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS, EITHER WAY YOURE STILL A RETARD.
7/18/2009 1:56:48 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
^^^^^^
See?

*ouch*


Sorry that rant wasn't directed towards you or anyone in particular. Just my feelings on the situation.  Nothing I say will change the outcome so just thought I would get that off my chest. I got a little more worked up than I intended.

Hey...Don't apologize to this guy!  He's part of the problem!  Notice everytime shit stirs up around here he shows up to start pushing buttons and trying to piss people off.  Grow up JP.  Do you not have a website of your own to moderate?  Damn dude!  We don't go there being a problem, don't come here being one.  Post up and be a positive part of the group or get lost!



you're right. I went back and read everything he has posted and he has just been trying to get someone to tell him off so he can be a vagina and cry about so maybe he'll get another person booted. Come to think of it I have only seen JP post in here once before, the last time Dan got booted!!! He knows we like Dan and will stand up for him. JP needs to stfu or gtfo. We don't need a little prick starting trouble and messing up something good. The REAL arfcom mods need to put JP on a leash. go ahead, cry to daddy about it u whiny bitch, there are plenty of guys on here that agree with me. Congratulations on proving to us all what a spineless troll you are.

But what do I know? I'm just a 22 year old dumbass redneck backwoods hilljack frat rat farmer/rancher consevative college kid that has gotten laid more times A-Rod. I know nothing right?  

I get so fired up but then I just remember that inspirational poster....
ARGUING ON THE INTERNET IS LIKE WINNING FIRST IN THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS, EITHER WAY YOURE STILL A RETARD.

That is what I have been saying all along.  Ban his ass and we have about 1/3 of the trouble around here.
7/18/2009 2:19:26 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
I would like to read the post for myself and see if Dan was out of line or just being Dan or if someone is just being a candyass and can` t take it, Dan always calls it the way he see it and should have the right to express his opinion, Most of the time I agreed with Dan and sometime not but he made some good points and like to debate the issue, is this why we have this fourm ?  Let us read the post and let us make the call if Dan should be ban or not.


I guess that would be an option if you signed on as an ARFcom moderator.

I mean, it's really not up to "us" whether or not someone should be banned....last I checked the staff didn't throw it up for popular vote.

You can say "well Bob is just being Bob", but if "just being Bob" means violating the rules then...what? Look the other way because "Bob" is a "swell guy"?
That's not really the way it works anywhere else.....and shit if it did then would that not somehow be an "abuse of power" in and of itself?

I'll go ahead and answer that for ya': Yes

We can't just go around cherry picking which "abuses" we are accepting of....



and look, I don't mean that as any kind of "attack" on anyone, but let's face it...it *is* the truth.
They are the ones who make the decisions and it's not really any of our concern whether we feel that someone should have been allowed to skate for the umpteeth time....whoever it is.
7/18/2009 2:22:04 PM EDT
[#35]
[span style='font-weight: bold;']Quoted:  Post up and be a positive part of the group or get lost!

So....
If I don't go along with the group who oppose the staff's decision to ban Dan for constantly breaking the rules, then I'm not being "positive"?



Did you ever think that just maybe this was the only topic lately that I had any interest in posting in?

You can try to construe it anyway you like, dude, but if you're really paying attention you see that I do post here when a particular topic grabs my attention.
So please spare us all the whole "he's just stirring up crap" routine...seriously...get over me already.
I don't handle mancrushes very well....it makes me kinda' uncomfortable.
7/18/2009 2:26:19 PM EDT
[#36]
[span style='font-weight: bold;']Quoted:
you're right. I went back and read everything he has posted and he has just been trying to get someone to tell him off so he can be a vagina and cry about so maybe he'll get another person booted. Come to think of it I have only seen JP post in here once before, the last time Dan got booted!!! He knows we like Dan and will stand up for him. JP needs to stfu or gtfo. We don't need a little prick starting trouble and messing up something good. The REAL arfcom mods need to put JP on a leash. go ahead, cry to daddy about it u whiny bitch, there are plenty of guys on here that agree with me. Congratulations on proving to us all what a spineless troll you are.

But what do I know? I'm just a 22 year old dumbass redneck backwoods hilljack frat rat farmer/rancher consevative college kid that has gotten laid more times A-Rod. I know nothing right?  

I get so fired up but then I just remember that inspirational poster....
ARGUING ON THE INTERNET IS LIKE WINNING FIRST IN THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS, EITHER WAY YOURE STILL A RETARD.



Wait, I just want to be clear on something....
Did you just call me a "whiny bitch", or were you talking to higgimw?

And what's with the whole "plenty of people agree with me" stuff anyway?
Do you really need that validation? Shit man, plenty of people "agree" with Obama too, but that doesn't make them in any way correct or rational.

I'd also like to make a point....
Suggesting that I've ever got anyone "booted" from here really shows a lot of ignorance.
The mods and staff know the truth, they know who gets people "booted" and who doesn't, and I'm sure if I'm wrong one of them will be along to point that out.
Over and out.
7/18/2009 2:31:08 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Quoted:
you're right. I went back and read everything he has posted and he has just been trying to get someone to tell him off so he can be a vagina and cry about so maybe he'll get another person booted. Come to think of it I have only seen JP post in here once before, the last time Dan got booted!!! He knows we like Dan and will stand up for him. JP needs to stfu or gtfo. We don't need a little prick starting trouble and messing up something good. The REAL arfcom mods need to put JP on a leash. go ahead, cry to daddy about it u whiny bitch, there are plenty of guys on here that agree with me. Congratulations on proving to us all what a spineless troll you are.

But what do I know? I'm just a 22 year old dumbass redneck backwoods hilljack frat rat farmer/rancher consevative college kid that has gotten laid more times A-Rod. I know nothing right?  

I get so fired up but then I just remember that inspirational poster....
ARGUING ON THE INTERNET IS LIKE WINNING FIRST IN THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS, EITHER WAY YOURE STILL A RETARD.



Wait, I just want to be clear on something....
Did you just call me a "whiny bitch", or were you talking to higgimw?

And what's with the whole "plenty of people agree with me" stuff anyway?
Do you really [span style='font-style: italic;']need that validation? Shit man, plenty of people "agree" with Obama too, but that doesn't make them in any way correct or rational.

See this is a good example of what was being said earlier.  You call me a whiny bitch, yet you'll notice I don't I don't come over to your website starting a bunch of shit.  OH..... and if we ever meet in person I'll show you whiny bitch up close and personal.  FUCK YOU!!!!!!
7/18/2009 2:39:44 PM EDT
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See this is a good example of what was being said earlier.  You call me a whiny bitch, yet you'll notice I don't I don't come over to your website starting a bunch of shit.  OH..... and if we ever meet in person I'll show you whiny bitch up close and personal.  FUCK YOU!!!!!!


You are talking to me!?
I didn't call you anything....I asked him if he was talking to me or you.

I asked him, higgimw....because I wasn't sure if he was addressing me or you, since he was quoting you.

.....you didn't even read the post correctly, and then you fly off the handle and directly threaten me over the internet!
See.....that's what I was talking about earlier.

Why do you feel the need to start all of that unnecessary trouble?

Dude....that is so not cool.


7/18/2009 2:49:08 PM EDT
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That is what I have been saying all along.  Ban his ass and we have about 1/3 of the trouble around here.


Ban me!?
For what? I haven't done anything wrong and I'm posting within the rules
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you on the other hand are the one who is tossing out personal threats here.

WTF is that all about?
7/18/2009 3:11:45 PM EDT
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<shakes head> To think, I just renewed my team membership last week.
7/18/2009 3:19:55 PM EDT
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<shakes head> To think, I just renewed my team membership last week.


What a deal, huh?

7/18/2009 3:28:29 PM EDT
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I would like to read the post for myself and see if Dan was out of line or just being Dan or if someone is just being a candyass and can` t take it, Dan always calls it the way he see it and should have the right to express his opinion, Most of the time I agreed with Dan and sometime not but he made some good points and like to debate the issue, is this why we have this fourm ?  Let us read the post and let us make the call if Dan should be ban or not.


I guess that would be an option if you signed on as an ARFcom moderator.

I mean, it's really not up to "us" whether or not someone should be banned....last I checked the staff didn't throw it up for popular vote.

You can say "well Bob is just being Bob", but if "just being Bob" means violating the rules then...what? Look the other way because "Bob" is a "swell guy"?
That's not really the way it works anywhere else.....and shit if it did then would that not somehow be an "abuse of power" in and of itself?

I'll go ahead and answer that for ya': Yes

We can't just go around cherry picking which "abuses" we are accepting of....



and look, I don't mean that as any kind of "attack" on anyone, but let's face it...it *is* the truth.
They are the ones who make the decisions and it's not really any of our concern whether we feel that someone should have been allowed to skate for the umpteeth time....whoever it is.






I would like to read it and see if they (the Mod) were justify in banning Dan , why you on the defense anyway?
7/18/2009 3:36:19 PM EDT
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I would like to read the post for myself and see if Dan was out of line or just being Dan or if someone is just being a candyass and can` t take it, Dan always calls it the way he see it and should have the right to express his opinion, Most of the time I agreed with Dan and sometime not but he made some good points and like to debate the issue, is this why we have this fourm ?  Let us read the post and let us make the call if Dan should be ban or not.


I guess that would be an option if you signed on as an ARFcom moderator.

I mean, it's really not up to "us" whether or not someone should be banned....last I checked the staff didn't throw it up for popular vote.

You can say "well Bob is just being Bob", but if "just being Bob" means violating the rules then...what? Look the other way because "Bob" is a "swell guy"?
That's not really the way it works anywhere else.....and shit if it did then would that not somehow be an "abuse of power" in and of itself?

I'll go ahead and answer that for ya': Yes

We can't just go around cherry picking which "abuses" we are accepting of....



and look, I don't mean that as any kind of "attack" on anyone, but let's face it...it *is* the truth.
They are the ones who make the decisions and it's not really any of our concern whether we feel that someone should have been allowed to skate for the umpteeth time....whoever it is.






I would like to read it and see if they (the Mod) were justify in banning Dan , why you on the defense anyway?


I'm simply pointing out that those things aren't done by committe or consensus of the general membership.
Why is it that we are not supposed to be able to trust the judgement of the site staff or mods?
I mean, they write and enforce the rules and the way I see it...according to the numbers...they gave the guy a lot of slack for the same stuff over and over.
...and now people are demanding that they get to decide for themselves?

Well hell...what is the point of having rules or moderators anyway if the place is going to be run by a small group of friends in the HTF?

How can you not see that they were justified after reading what one of the site staff has already posted?...9 or 10 times?


7/18/2009 3:47:16 PM EDT
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you're right. I went back and read everything he has posted and he has just been trying to get someone to tell him off so he can be a vagina and cry about so maybe he'll get another person booted. Come to think of it I have only seen JP post in here once before, the last time Dan got booted!!! He knows we like Dan and will stand up for him. JP needs to stfu or gtfo. We don't need a little prick starting trouble and messing up something good. The REAL arfcom mods need to put JP on a leash. go ahead, cry to daddy about it u whiny bitch, there are plenty of guys on here that agree with me. Congratulations on proving to us all what a spineless troll you are.

But what do I know? I'm just a 22 year old dumbass redneck backwoods hilljack frat rat farmer/rancher consevative college kid that has gotten laid more times A-Rod. I know nothing right?  

I get so fired up but then I just remember that inspirational poster....
ARGUING ON THE INTERNET IS LIKE WINNING FIRST IN THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS, EITHER WAY YOURE STILL A RETARD.



Wait, I just want to be clear on something....
Did you just call me a "whiny bitch", or were you talking to higgimw?

And what's with the whole "plenty of people agree with me" stuff anyway?
Do you really need that validation? Shit man, plenty of people "agree" with Obama too, but that doesn't make them in any way correct or rational.

I'd also like to make a point....
Suggesting that I've ever got anyone "booted" from here really shows a lot of ignorance.
The mods and staff know the truth, [span style='font-style: italic;']they know who gets people "booted" and who doesn't, and I'm sure if I'm wrong one of them will be along to point that out.
Over and out.


Sorry had to finish working ground, i dont have the luxury of sitting in front of my computer all saturday eating cheetohs and pissing people off in the htf, some of us have to work for a living.

And YES i was calling you a whiny bitch.
And YES it seems to me that there are more than just me and Higgmw here that think youre an egocentric ass.
And so by saying you have never gotten anyone banned by delibrately starting shit I can call you a panty waist pussy and some other things yet to be typed and I wont get banned? This is going to be fun!

ETA: O and before you think youre smart and state the obvious, I have an internet capable phone and thats how I posted earlier today. Been working since 0730. Damn that must piss you off.
7/18/2009 3:49:30 PM EDT
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I would like to read it and see if they (the Mod) were justify in banning Dan , why you on the defense anyway?


I agree. I have searched but can't find the offending thread. Can anyone post a link to it. By the way who is JP? I don't recall ever seeing him before. Is he really a big

7/18/2009 4:20:23 PM EDT
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I have no idea what the part in red means. I know I am repeating myself, but warning and temp locking him seems to have no effect on his behavior in the past. I don't know what else to say, we warned and locked him quite a few times to try to avoid having to boot him yet it seemed to have no impression on him.
 


Why the need to defend your actions anyway?
It's not like you owe anyone an explanation for the obvious, and particularly those with remedial reading comprehension at best.
(er...this is not in any way intended as an indictment of the OKHTF as a whole)

Remember:
Anything you say can and will be used against you in a HTF kangaroo court of non-law.


I mean, you're essentially appealing to those who mock and will smite thee for banishing their HTF God...his royal assholiness.
...and if birds are indeed of a feather, they'll be gunning for me now (again) for posting this....on the HTF, as well as on the street.
(Yeah, that's right folks.... they really do make it that damn personal.)



Easy man....I was talking about the Mods in the Ammo forum that was referenced in Sly's post above......

ETA:  Guys, the mod that has caused Dan the most propblems is not JP......I will not name is name or I'll get the ban hammer, so I just call him he who cannot be named!

7/18/2009 4:32:23 PM EDT
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See?

*ouch*


Sorry that rant wasn't directed towards you or anyone in particular. Just my feelings on the situation.  Nothing I say will change the outcome so just thought I would get that off my chest. I got a little more worked up than I intended.

Hey...Don't apologize to this guy!  He's part of the problem!  Notice everytime shit stirs up around here he shows up to start pushing buttons and trying to piss people off.  Grow up JP.  Do you not have a website of your own to moderate?  Damn dude!  We don't go there being a problem, don't come here being one.  Post up and be a positive part of the group or get lost!



you're right. I went back and read everything he has posted and he has just been trying to get someone to tell him off so he can be a vagina and cry about so maybe he'll get another person booted. Come to think of it I have only seen JP post in here once before, the last time Dan got booted!!! He knows we like Dan and will stand up for him. JP needs to stfu or gtfo. We don't need a little prick starting trouble and messing up something good. The REAL arfcom mods need to put JP on a leash. go ahead, cry to daddy about it u whiny bitch, there are plenty of guys on here that agree with me. Congratulations on proving to us all what a spineless troll you are.

But what do I know? I'm just a 22 year old dumbass redneck backwoods hilljack frat rat farmer/rancher consevative college kid that has gotten laid more times A-Rod. Sheep don't count man!!!I know nothing right?  

I get so fired up but then I just remember that inspirational poster....
ARGUING ON THE INTERNET IS LIKE WINNING FIRST IN THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS, EITHER WAY YOURE STILL A RETARD.


^^^^

Sorry, I couldn't resist!

7/18/2009 4:36:30 PM EDT
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I would like to read it and see if they (the Mod) were justify in banning Dan , why you on the defense anyway?


I agree. I have searched but can't find the offending thread. Can anyone post a link to it. By the way who is JP? I don't recall ever seeing him before. Is he really a big



JP  pops in from time to time when thing get on fire here, I think Dan had a target on his back when 1shott was mod and USSA had their go around with Dan,just want to read it for my self anything wrong with that JP
7/18/2009 4:36:52 PM EDT
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Well damn. I'm not going to say anything that I wouldn't or haven't said to Dan's face. I will probably call him later to give him "a stern talking to"

Dan is one of a very few people that I consider a friend. Hell, he drove a hour and a half down here to help me wire my new reloading shop when he barely knew me. He has been an asset to the OKHTF. We have been more than a group on the internet. We regularly have get togethers, mostly started by Dan. He has helped out many members, without asking for anything in return. He is one of those rare guys that would give you the shirt off his back.

Dan suffers from something that I struggle with too. That is knowing when to shut up. I seem to be a lot better at controlling this than he does though.

Dan likes to argue. He is also retired, which gives him more time to do it

He generally thinks that he is always right. Add this to the statement above and...........

He says what he thinks. Which is not always the smartest thing to do. I know this from experience too

I would like to see him be able to remain on the HTF anyway. I dont think that any of our members here would disagree, except for our troll, that is.



I agree Chuck.....Dan helped me assemble my AK pistol when I barely knew him.  He will always help anyone that asks.  He's the type that does indeed know alot and shares that information to a fault.  It is a damn shame that thin skined people don't know how to listen and instead get their feathers ruffled and stat crying, bitching and tattling......and then you know what they say....the squeaky wheel gets the grease!

7/18/2009 5:33:49 PM EDT
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Dans just taking a vacation to Broke Back Mountain.  
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