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Set on the gear (APC, helmet, nods.) Would like more IFAK training, something more than "stick gauze here".
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I have an old ACH and 10+ yrs old lvl 4 plates so both of them need replacing with modern items. I have 2 small IFAKs (HSGI bleeder pouches) but legit medical gear I'm missing.
I'm fat so cardio is one of my main things I'm working on. So keep me in the loop for whatever we happen here |
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I’m very interested as long as the plates considered aren’t steel.
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I don't have an IFAK. Been needing that and a stop the bleed class for a long while now.
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And do you know how to use it? I am looking at putting together a large group buy for armor, and possibly IFAKs. Do your shooting buddies not on ARF have these things? And do you know how to use them? View Quote I have neither the hardware nor the software. How can I help? |
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I purchased level-IV ceramics on evilbay for cheap...
the plates are certified NIJ Level-IV smoking deal best deal I have found so far.... |
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I purchased level-IV ceramics on evilbay for cheap... the plates are certified NIJ Level-IV smoking deal best deal I have found so far.... View Quote |
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we did the research.. they are documented by NIJ as level-IV...
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I wonder if those plates are actually rated as they are stated. That's a crazy deal . . . View Quote printable list... ETA.. you are welcome patriots!!! @undefined dug this up when we were searching for deals on certified plates... |
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I wonder if those plates are actually rated as they are stated. That's a crazy deal . . . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I purchased level-IV ceramics on evilbay for cheap... the plates are certified NIJ Level-IV smoking deal best deal I have found so far.... I am not affiliated with the seller, Bulletproof It (the seller is the owner of Bulletproof It), or Hesco. |
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Hey guys, I'm planning on coming in for VCDL Day, arriving the 19th and leaving on the 20th. My plan is flying in to Richmond and if someone wants to give me a floor to sleep on I'll do some med training. I teach Stop the Bleed and EMT, have been in EMS for over a decade. Let me know.
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Which place has the best prices of things like TQs, packing gauze, etc?
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Anyone have a nice Med size Eagle, or eestac nicer PC to sell for a good deal or trade?
I have an eagle PC with Cummerbund in L/XL that's too big for me. |
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Which place has the best prices of things like TQs, packing gauze, etc? View Quote Attached File |
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Quoted: I have a medium Crye CAGE plate carrier I'll sell you on the cheap. It is in ranger green and has only been worn twice to workout in. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/72384/20190316_200431-880252.jpg View Quote You can pm me the price if you like.. |
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You should be able to get into a solid helmet new for ~600 or less. Signicifantly less for one that is used. Just keep in mind that your head is kind of important. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Recently got a PC and plates. Have a decent IFAK, but am planning on using next year's FSA funds on new medical stuff. FSA Store seems to have some decent options and if I am reading correct Amazon has FSA/HSA approved items you can directly use your FSA card on so you don't even need to fudge with getting reimbursed. Any idea on what the cost of the helmet is going to work out to? ACH IIIa good price They also have the old-style KPOT for less ($118.00) |
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Which place has the best prices of things like TQs, packing gauze, etc? View Quote They have a MIL/LEO discount as well. |
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I would be interested in a helmet.
And training. I really need to get some training |
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For those of y’all looking for medical gear, I’ve got a great suggestion:
Sign up for LA Police Gears emailers, they usually send out a 15-20% off sale every couple months. You can usually get better deals on NAR or other medical gear than anywhere else, even when other places have sales, due to their volume pricing I’m sure. Only caveat is catching items in stock. Trust me, I’ve been doing this a long time, I’ve price compared for a long time. Generally speaking, hammering an LAPG site sale is a better way to get the best price than anywhere else. |
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I need armor, am ambivalent on a helmet, and can use a more compact/trauma-centric ifak.
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Out of curiosity, why would you not be interested in a helmet? Especially since they have 7.62 NATO rated lightweight helmets now? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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IFAKs, yes. Plates, some, but not many. Helmets... not interested. If you’re in the East TN/SWVA area and want IFAK training, I can get you set up if we have 10+ interested. |
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I test them for a living. Any helmet that'll effectively stop 7.62 will be absurdly huge and cumbersome. And if you get hit with a round it might not penetrate the helmet, but it'll still smoosh your dome like a grape because the helmet will collapse. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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IFAKs, yes. Plates, some, but not many. Helmets... not interested. If you’re in the East TN/SWVA area and want IFAK training, I can get you set up if we have 10+ interested. |
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~16 feet. NIJ 06 specs worst case scenario, so it's at minimum range moving faster than muzzle velocity. However, I don't believe there's a max acceptable back face deformation for rifle threats on helmets like there is for pistol on helmet and soft armor, and rifle on plates. As long as the projectile never actually makes it through and through it counts as a partial stop for a given velocity, no matter how badly the helmet might collapse in on itself in the process. It's not uncommon when testing against pistol for the front of the helmet to smack into the back of the helmet while stopping the bullet. So the as600 (which I just looked up but have not tested myself) can technically "stop" 7.62, but you're probably not going to live through it in any meaningful way.
Testing for pistol, the max deformation is 44mm depth for 9mm threats and I think 58mm for 44mag. That's a hell of a crater that I frankly have no interest in surviving. Ballistic helmets are primarily to protect against fragment threats from IEDs and similar. All that said, at range a ballistic helmet will stop way more than no helmet, especially if it's at an oblique angle. It comes down to a question of what the perceived threat is compared to need for mobility etc. |
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I replied to the out of state thread but I have the following:
PC NODs Bump helmet IFAK radios |
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Got my comms and chest rig worked out . Interested in PC and helmet now. I’m definitely interested.
Good job OP. Thanks |
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My plates and ACH need to be upgraded.
I need lvl IV SAPI cut 2-curve plates that won't break the bank. Been looking at Hesco 4400 and HighCom 4S17M. |
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I sold my plates, carrier, and helmet a few years ago because they were outdated and complacency set in so I haven't replaced them. I do have a squad sized med kit that's probably expired but functional.
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For those still looking for plates, Kota Outfitters has a deal on a set of 2 new Hesco plates for $200. They are ceramic composite and rated for Level IV stand alone.
Level IV plates |
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I am looking at trying to arrange group buy pricing for the following: Stand Alone Level III+ SAPI cut plates, less than 5lbs weight. High Cut Ballistic Helmet Retail on the helmets is $380 USD, and on the plates $266 USD per plate- so with a group buy we could hopefully do better. Alternatively, if a lot of ya'll do not have an interest in the helmets with NVG mounts and rails, I could look at trying to hook you up with this high cut ballistic helmet for less than $300. Thoughts? |
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OK all- I am looking at trying to arrange group buy pricing for the following: Stand Alone Level III+ SAPI cut plates, less than 5lbs weight. High Cut Ballistic Helmet Retail on the helmets is $380 USD, and on the plates $266 USD per plate- so with a group buy we could hopefully do better. Alternatively, if a lot of ya'll do not have an interest in the helmets with NVG mounts and rails, I could look at trying to hook you up with this high cut ballistic helmet for less than $300. Thoughts? View Quote |
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I'd be most interested in the helmet with NVG mount and rails
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Dang it. I have perfect timing, I guess. I just pulled the trigger on most of this stuff late last night (Christmas eve / early Christmas morning) spending spree.
Signed up for the "stop the bleed" training, too. So I still need an IFAK. So I'm down with the group-buy / recommendations there. |
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