Posted: 4/8/2013 2:32:18 PM EDT
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A friend just told me today he got his Concealed Carry over the weekend by completing only an On-Line application & test and got his permit off the printer that same day, all while at home.
Is this real, is it that easy??? With what is going on in this Obamanation of a Gov't is it even a safe thing to apply for a conceal carry? I just don't trust the Gov't with knowing I have a permit, I just think that I, We, will be the 1st they go after. Opinions please? |
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Yes, it's legal. It's all common sense answers but I would recommend that you download the carry laws from the state police website. Personal thoughts , newbs should take a NRA class.
" 7- Completing any firearms training or safety course or class, including an electronic, video, or on-line course, conducted by a state-certified or National Rifle Association-certified firearms instructor;" http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_ResidentConcealed.shtm#ApplicationforaConcealedHandgunPermit |
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Make sure that he gets the NRA instructor number on this certificate, it could get kicked back.
Also encourage him to followup with a live instructor for the things that the on-line class missed, live fire and hopefully a section of the class done by a lawyer on the law in VA. Quoted:
I understand now, he got the certificate on line but he still has to go to the courthouse.  |
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The worst thing this state ever did was make that online crap acceptable. So you're not in favor of constitutional carry then? I have a feeling this was taken a little out of context with what he was saying. Regardless of 2nd Amendment or not, I am in favor of people having hands on training if they are going to own a gun. I personally do not want to get shot by some idiot that doesn't know what he/she is doing. |
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The worst thing this state ever did was make that online crap acceptable. So you're not in favor of constitutional carry then? I have a feeling this was taken a little out of context with what he was saying. Regardless of 2nd Amendment or not, I am in favor of people having hands on training if they are going to own a gun. I personally do not want to get shot by some idiot that doesn't know what he/she is doing. I'm in favor of people getting training as well (that's part of responsible ownership, IMO), but I'm not in favor of the government mandating training in regards to a constitutionally enumerated right. |
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I'm in favor of Constitutional carry; but if you're going to require training it should be meaningful and effective. Plus, anybody could sign in online and take a quiz for you. I agree, but if I may offer a counterpoint: If the goal is to ensure that people carrying guns in public have the physical, hands-on training to do so safely, then that same training should be required for open carry too. If gun safety is the goal, then it shouldn't apply only to people who want to wear a jacket over their gun. That's either a slope full o' banana peels or a ridiculous double-standard. The only way to eliminate both is to eliminate the training requirement. If the goal is to ensure that people understand the laws surrounding CCW, the onus is on them to understand the law just as with everything else. There are thousands of laws the government expects you to know and "I didn't know that was the law" is rarely an excuse that holds water. |
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Part of the reason for the relatively low training requirements is that it was used as an excuse for many years in some places before 'shal issue' became the law of the state.
In some place NO ONE had enough training. It is just one more tax on a clearly defined right. There has not been any rash of accidental shootings sine shall issue was passed, why all the worry? |