Posted: 2/19/2008 6:48:07 AM EDT
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From what I have read, it is illegal for non-law enforcement types to own a rifle with a barrel less than 16". I didn't see anything about getting a special permit or anything, it looks to be plain impossible. So my next question is, is it legal to own an AK "pistol?" Something like this: http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/programming/expand.asp?Prodid=454? And if the answer to the second question is yes, I would imagine that adding a stock to the "pistol" would make it an illegal weapon. Which makes me question the sanity of Virginia lawmakers, though I don't know if I ever gave a politician credit for make any sense... |
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Am I missing something? From the NRA (http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/VASL.pdf) “SAWED OFF” SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES A “sawed-off” shotgun is defined as any weapon loaded or unloaded, originally designed as a shoulder weapon, utilizing a self-contained cartridge from which a number of ball shot pellets or projectiles may be fired simultaneously from a smooth or rifled bore by a single function of the firing device and which has a barrel length of less than 18 inches for smooth bore weapons and 16 inches for rifled weapons. Weapons of less than .225 caliber shall not be included. A “sawed-off” rifle is defined as a rifle of any caliber, loaded or unloaded, which expels a projectile by action of an explosion and is designed as a shoulder weapon with a barrel or barrels length of less than 16 inches or which has been modified to an overall length of less than 26 inches. Possession of a “sawed-off” shotgun or “sawed-off” rifle is unlawful except for the following purposes: 1. Possession for scientific purposes, or possession of a “sawed-off” shotgun or “sawed off” rifle not usable as a firing weapon and possessed as a curiosity ornament or keepsake, or the possession of a “sawed-off” shotgun or “sawed-off” rifle in compliance with federal law. 2. The manufacture for, and sale of, to the military or law enforcement or to penal institutions, provided that every manufacturer or dealer shall keep a register of all “sawed-off” shotguns and “sawed-off” rifles manufactured or handled by him or her. The register shall keep a full description of the person to whom delivered or from whom it was received. No registered “sawed-off” shotgun or “sawed-off” rifle may be transferred without the registrant notifying the Superintendent of State Police, in writing, of the name and address of the recipient. |
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The link you put up for the AK pistol didn't work for me. I would assume if it's a pistol it will follow the same rules as a pistol. Riffles that are less than 16" are legal in the great state of VA and just need the CLEO sign off (unless you transfer through a trust) and an NFA stamp to get. I'd suggest going to a Class III gun shop and having them walk you through the process. I went to Loudun guns and they squared me away. You might also want to check out the Class 3 section under Armory. Let me know if you need help, I'm always ready to lend a hand to another Triumph fan! |
Yes, you missed something - check out the red above. If you're in compliance with federal law, you're GTG. When you have an approved Form 1 or Form 4, etc., you're in compliance with federal law. Have fun! 
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It's easy to SBR from home. Just as easy to go to a class III dealer and have them order you a factory SBR of your choice. Either way you go it's going to cost you $200 for the tax. Not that much of a big deal, it's tax time and the IRS is about to give you "your" money back so you can pay the ATF. (also don't forget to spend all of the chinese money on american stuff) See, even your government wants you to own an SBR. Let me know if you need help. |
Yes. The National Firearms Act. AR15.com's General Class 3 forum: ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=6&f=17 AR15.com's Technical Class 3 forum: ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=6&f=22 TitleII.com - some good reading and links to ATF forms. You can own machine guns, suppressors, short barrel rifles, short barrel shotguns, any other weapons (AOW as defined by the NFA), and destructive devices in Virginia. You simply need to comply with the Federal guidelines, and make sure you comply with your county guidelines as well. An 07/02 FFL should be able to help you out with the process. I'd recommend Dane Manufacturing, Hallmark Small Arms, Frederick County Firearms, Doug Stockton @ SSG or John Brown III. |
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Not to hijack this thread but to bring over something from the "Forbidden List" thread--- I'm well aware of the SBR "expection" in VA as long as it's registered AND the "sawed-off" shotgun aka SBS....BUT in the other thread we were talking about the law outlawing Streetsweepers and that it was enacted prior to NFA registry of Saiga type shotguns....so is there a conflict in law here?? the one says that as long as it's federally registered (NFA) then it's OK but the other says any SBS with folding stock capable of accepting a drum of 12+ rounds is NOT OK and there's now mention of the NFA exception.....sooooo does that leave us Virginians out in the cold on owning saying a SBS from Tromix with a MD-20 or Waithmaker drum??? |