Posted: 6/11/2007 3:15:22 PM EDT
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- VCDL's Gun Dealer Legal Defense Fund -- help fight Mayor Bloomberg's scheme to cripple Virginia firearms dealers. See: www.vcdl.org/index.html#DefenseFund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or change your email address, please follow the directions at the end of this message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- VCDL Update 6/10/07 - Defending your right to defend yourself Thought for the day: "Gun" is NOT the operative word in either Gun-Control or Gun-Hater. 1. Reminder: VT Panel meets Monday 2. Fairfax Police explain presence of officer at MMM meeting 3. Video of Governor Kaine speaking on the college gun ban 4. VCDL seeking a second VCDL Northern VA Gun Show Coordinator 5. A survey of gun policies for colleges in southeastern Virginia 6. Albemarle County WAS fingerprinting on renewals - problem solved! 7. Richmond Public Library 'no guns' signs to be fixed 8. Free Lance-Star dropped CHP list off web site without comment 9. Falls Church has lots of preempted firearms ordinances still on the books 10. BREAKING: NRA joins hands with gun-hater Carolyn McCarthy :-( 11. Sheriff in Colorado stands up for guns on campus! (This is MY kind of sheriff!) 12. Brookings Institution to hold forum on gun control 13. West Virginia expands reciprocity - how it affects Virginia 14. VCDL member harassed by DMV security guard, situation has been corrected 15. Applying 2nd Amendment restrictions to the 1st Amendment ;-) 16. Germanna Community College still wants to violate state law 17. Suffolk Parks 'no guns' wording removed from signs now 18. Article on the history of gun control 19. Anti-gun editorial on VT asks for full Brady wish list (ugh) 20. Another anti-gun editorial 21. Gun shows and events! ******************************************* 1. Reminder: VT Panel meets Monday ******************************************* VCDL has some serious questions about the potential bias of the Virginia Tech Panel that Governor Kaine has setup, especially considering that pro-second Amendment groups are not represented on that panel. However, let's have a good turnout at this event and let the panel hear that armed adult students with CHPs could help prevent future massacres! The meeting is being held: Monday, June 11 2007 - Time: 9:00 a.m. Mason Hall on the George Mason University (GMU) campus 4400 University Dr Fairfax, Virginia *** According to the VT Review Panel web site, the public comment period will run from 2:30 PM to 3:30 PM. You should be able to sign up at the meeting. *** (I plan to arrive around 1 PM) For Monday's agenda, see: http://vtreviewpanel.org/news/2007/061107_2.html Since we will be asking the Panel to recommend that adult students with CHPs be allowed to carry concealed on campus, it might be wise if we set an example to show just how unobtrusive concealed carry can be. (GMU's current 'no gun' policy only applies to students and staff of GMU.) In addition, speakers should plan on keeping their comments short and too the point. Try to keep your comments to just one or two minutes in length. ******************************************* 2. Fairfax Police explain presence of officer at MMM meeting ******************************************* After contacting the Fairfax County Police Internal Affairs division about the presence of a County officer at last week's Million Mom March meeting, I was told that the officer had been asked to speak by the MMMs about school lock-down procedures during an emergency. At first there was some confusion as the Internal Affairs officer, Lt. Rogers, said the officer was there to provide security at the bequest of the library management. However, Lt. Rogers did some more checking and found out that the library staff had simply notified the police that the MMMs were meeting and that some gun owners might be attending also, and thus there was potential for some kind of potential clash. (How the library staff knew any gun owners would be present is still not clear.) No officer had been assigned to provided security. Once again I was impressed with the professionalism and courtesy of the Fairfax County Police in responding to our query about the purpose of their officer at that meeting. -- Here is some coverage of that meeting: http://tinyurl.com/37ar2y 06/06/2007 Anti-gun meeting canceled after clash By: Layla Wilder Times Community A meeting on preventing gun violence scheduled at the Centreville Regional Library for June 4 was canceled because pro-gun activists were videotaping it. About 30 people showed up for an informational meeting about gun laws organized by the Million Moms March of Northern Virginia, according to Terry Hartnett, past president of the organization. Before it started, organizers asked two men associated with the Virginia Citizens Defense League wanting to videotape the meeting to sign a handwritten contract promising to use any "photographic representations" recorded for private use only. One of them refused, and the meeting was canceled, said Hartnett, a Burke resident. "We just want to have meetings without everything getting distorted and ending up on YouTube," Hartnett said. Chris Rohland, a resident of Centreville associated with the Virginia Citizens Defense League, signed the contract, but later posted footage of the confrontation on YouTube. "It was a public meeting that was publicly advertised," Rohland said. "I wanted to tape it to share the information with other people." The Million Moms March is a national organization that lobbies for strict gun laws. The Northern Virginia chapter has about 100 members in Fairfax County and became more active after the Virginia Tech shootings of April 16, which claimed the lives of six graduates of Fairfax County public schools. A school resource officer from Centreville High School, and Bob Ricker, a former gun rights lobbyist, were to speak on June 4. Dorothy Fonow, a resident of Herndon and a Million Mom March member who came to the meeting, said the pro-gun activists were just trying to "intimidate people." Mike Stollenwerk, founder of the OpenCarry.Org Web site, said he is glad someone tried to tape the meeting because he wants the information anti-gun organization are dispersing recorded. Organizations on both sides of the gun rights issue have gone head to head on several occasions in Fairfax County since the Virginia Tech shootings. The Virginia Citizens Defense League held a gun give-way in a government center in Annandale in May, attracting protesters. At a Million Mom March meeting at the Burke Library in May, a handful of gun activists attended openly carrying guns. "While they weren't disruptive, it was alarming to have people walking around with guns in a library," Hartnett said. The meeting originally planned at the Centreville Library is being rescheduled in a private location, Hartnett said. -- A member emailed me to say that I had a quote from the audio of that meeting wrong. I thought I heard, "Can they tape with us standing in front of the camera? I mean legally we can do that." But that's not what the member heard when he watched the video. He believe she said (and I think he is correct): "Can we take turns standing in front of the camera? I mean legally we can do that." The member then concluded: "What she was basically trying to imply was, 'If he is free to video tape, then we are also free to obstruct his view.' And thus achieve a kind of childish 'censorship' by default." ******************************************* 3. Video of Governor Kaine speaking on the college gun ban ******************************************* Again, the Governor doesn't say he would be in favor or not in favor of dropping the college gun ban. Dave Briggman sent the link. Discussion begins immediately after the initial welcome: http://tinyurl.com/33bgop <http://ww2.whsv.com/global/video/popup/pop_playerLaunch.asp?clipid1=1493608&at1=Homepage&vt1=v&h1=One+On+One+Interview%3A+Possible+Rail+Corridor%2F+Gov%2E+Tim+Kaine&d1=271200&redirUrl=www.whsv.com&activePane=info&LaunchPageAdTag=homepage> ******************************************* 4. VCDL seeking a second VCDL Northern VA Gun Show Coordinator ******************************************* As part of our expansion and division of responsibilities, Executive Member and Northern VA Gun Show Coordinator David Park will assume responsibilities as the VCDL state gun show coordinator. Barry Graves, our other NOVA coordinator, has job commitments that preclude his involvement through December, leaving us in need of help with our tables at Northern VA gunshows. Member/Activist TJ Parmele has stepped forward to take responsibility for our NOVA gun shows, but we'd still like to have a secondary to split the load. If you're interested or would like to know what's involved, contact Dennis O'Connor at [email protected] or David Park at [email protected] Those of you who responded to our previous call for volunteers to fill new positions, you will be hearing back from us very soon! ******************************************* 5. A survey of gun policies for colleges in southeastern Virginia ******************************************* Alan W. Rose sent me this email: -- A brief survey of college weapon policies in southeastern VA: a. Tidewater Community College (Virginia Beach, Norfolk, Portsmouth): - 4.2 Examples of Prohibited Conduct Specific examples of conduct that may be considered threats or acts of violence include, but are not limited to, the following: - Unauthorized possession of or inappropriate use of firearms, weapons, or any other dangerous devices on college property. * Sounds sufficiently vague to me! - b. Old Dominion University Firearms Policy Statement The possession, storage, or use of any kind of ammunition, firearms, explosives, air rifles, or air pistols on University owned or operated property is prohibited, unless authorized in writing by the President upon recommendation of the University's Director of Public Safety. Appropriate sanctions for violations of this policy will apply. - c. Norfolk State University (My favorite!) Norfolk State University has a zero tolerance policy for weapons and violence. Weapons include but are not limited to the following: knives, razors, broken bottles, brass knuckles, chains, locks, all guns, firecrackers or any other object used to threaten or cause injury to/upon another. * I guess "all guns" makes them extra special bad? - d. College of William & Mary "Each member of the College community enjoys all rights of citizenship and has a responsibility to fulfill the obligations incumbent on all citizens." BUT: Weapons, Firearms, Fireworks, Explosives, and Combustibles Weapons, firearms, fireworks, and explosives are prohibited on campus. Gasoline (other than that used legally in motor vehicles) and all other combustible liquids are also prohibited. The possession of fireworks or the exploding of fireworks in the residence halls or elsewhere on the campus is prohibited. Toy, counterfeit, replica, or blank-firing firearms or other weapons are prohibited on campus. Pellet, paint, and bb guns are also prohibited. The College reserves the right to confiscate weapons, fireworks, and any instruments, toys, or other things which reasonably appear to be weapons or other prohibited items listed above, to hold those items for appropriate disposition, and to refer the possessor for judicial action. Any student who wishes to possess an object that is deemed a "weapon" by this policy on campus for any reason, including participating in an academic activity, club sport, or extracurricular activity, must seek and obtain approval from the Dean of Students Office prior to bringing the object to the College. The College reserves the right to refuse permission to any request and/or to place conditions on the approval of such requests. ******************************************* 6. Albemarle County WAS fingerprinting on renewals - problem solved! ******************************************* Phil Balestrieri let me know that the Albemarle County Sheriff's Office was still fingerprinting people on renewal of their CHPs. A quick call to the Circuit Court Clerk's Office of Albemarle County, citing 15.2-915.3, and I was told that the Clerk would direct the Sheriff's Office to stop fingerprinting all renewals effective immediately. ******************************************* 7. Richmond Public Library 'no guns' signs to be fixed ******************************************* EM Hal Macklin brought to my attention that there are 'no guns' signs at Richmond Public Library buildings. Those signs are now scheduled for replacement and I was told by library management that the wording would be removed on the new signs. I was also told that the handouts with the library rules have already been changed. ******************************************* 8. Free Lance-Star dropped CHP list off web site without comment ******************************************* I received quite a few emails from VA-ALERT subscribers saying that the Free Lance-Star had dropped the concealed handgun permit holder list from their web site. Have they finally decided that publishing that list does not benefit anyone but criminals? I will be watching, but not holding my breath. If they put the list back up or publish it in the paper, let me know. ******************************************* 9. Falls Church has lots of preempted firearms ordinances still on the books ******************************************* Darrin Knode found a host of preempted gun ordinances in Falls Church that need to be fixed or removed: http://www.municode.com/resources/gateway.asp?pid=10756&sid=46 Sec. 37-4. Carrying dangerous weapons--Prohibited. No person shall, within the city, carry either openly or concealed on or about his person, except in his dwelling house or place of business or on other land possessed by him, a pistol, without a license therefor issued as hereinafter provided, or any deadly or dangerous weapon capable of being so concealed. Whoever violates this section shall be punished as provided in this Code unless the violation occurs after he has been convicted in the city of a violation of this section or of a felony, either in the city or in another jurisdiction, in which case he shall be sentenced to confinement for not more than one (1) year in jail. (Code 1973, § 40-4) Sec. 37-6. Carrying concealed firearms; fingerprinting required. [This doesn't exempted applicants from being fingerprinted on renewals - PVC] Any city resident who applies to the clerk of the Arlington Circuit Court for a permit to carry a concealed handgun under section 18.2-308 of the Code of Virginia (1950), as amended, shall, as part of the application process, submit to fingerprinting by the city sheriff and provide descriptive information as required by the city sheriff in order to determine the applicant's suitability for a concealed handgun permit. The applicant's fingerprint cards and personal descriptive information shall be forwarded through the chief of police to the Virginia State Police for a state criminal history records check. The state police shall forward a fingerprint card and descriptive information to the Federal Bureau of Investigation for a national criminal history records check. Upon completion of the state and national criminal history records checks, the state police shall return the fingerprint cards to the chief of police. Following the completion of the records check and return of the fingerprint card, the chief of police shall notify the applicant in writing that he has twenty-one (21) days from the date of the notice to request the return of the fingerprint cards prepared pursuant to this section that are in the possession of the chief of police. Any cards not claimed by an applicant within this twenty-one-day period shall be destroyed. Fingerprints taken for the purposes described in this section shall not be copied, held or used for any other purpose. (Code 1973, § 40-6; Ord. No. 1600, 2-9-98) Sec. 37-14. Possession of certain dangerous weapons prohibited. (a) No person shall, within the city, possess any machine gun, sawed-off shotgun or any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slingshot, sand club, sandbag, switchblade knife or metal knuckles, nor any instrument, attachment or appliance for causing the firing of any firearm to be silent or intended to lessen or muffle the noise of the firing of any firearms; provided, that machine guns or sawed-off shotguns, and blackjacks may be possessed by the members of the Army, Navy or Marine Corps of the United States, the National guard or organized reserves when on duty, the Post Office Department or its employees when on duty, marshals, sheriffs, prison or jail wardens, or their deputies, policemen, or other duly-appointed law enforcement officers, officers or employees of the United States duly authorized to carry such weapons, banking institutions, public carriers who are engaged in the business of transporting mail, money, securities or other valuables, wholesale dealers and retail dealerslicensed under section 37-10. (b) No person shall, within the city, possess, with intent to use unlawfully against another, an imitation pistol, or a dagger, dirk, razor, stiletto or knife with a blade longer than three (3) inches, or other dangerous weapons. (c) Whoever violates this section shall be punished as provided in this Code unless the violation occurs after he has been convicted in the city of a violation of this section or of a felony, either in the city or in another jurisdiction, in which case shall be confined for not more than one year in jail. (Code 1973, § 40-14) ******************************************* 10. BREAKING: NRA joins hands with gun-hater Carolyn McCarthy :-( ******************************************* Whenever the NRA cozies up to the anti-gun, victim disarmament zealots, we have to wonder what the unintended consequences will be on law abiding gun owners. The article fails to mention that Congressman Dingell, leading the talks with the anti-gun zealots, resigned from the NRA Board and then proceeded to vote for the notorious Assault Weapons Ban. The NRA has told its members in the past that Carolyn McCarthy is one of the worst of the gun banners and now the NRA has crawled in bed with her! It's not just the NRA that's going to get a disease from this union. We could all pay a price. FLASH TO THE NRA: Carolyn McCarthy hates us and our guns. She will NEVER do anything good for gun owners, never. And what are YOU, the NRA, doing bringing us more gun control? Isn't that what Sarah Brady specializes in? What measures of this scheme are both parties (the anti-gun zealots and the NRA) hiding and NOT telling us about? We'll have to watch this one very, very closely. http://tinyurl.com/2fhtyz Democrats, NRA Reach Deal on Background-Check Bill By Jonathan Weisman Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, June 10, 2007; Page A02 Senior Democrats have reached agreement with the National Rifle Association on what could be the first federal gun-control legislation since 1994, a measure to significantly strengthen the national system that checks the backgrounds of gun buyers. The sensitive talks began in April, days after a mentally ill gunman killed 32 students and teachers at Virginia Tech University. The shooter, Seung Hui Cho, had been judicially ordered to submit to a psychiatric evaluation, which should have disqualified him from buying handguns. But the state of Virginia never forwarded that information to the federal National Instant Check System (NICS), and the massacre exposed a loophole in the 13-year-old background-check program. Under the agreement, participating states would be given monetary enticements for the first time to keep the federal background database up to date, as well as penalties for failing to comply. To sign on to the deal, the powerful gun lobby won significant concessions from Democratic negotiators in weeks of painstaking talks. Individuals with minor infractions in their pasts could petition their states to have their names removed from the federal database, and about 83,000 military veterans, put into the system by the Department of Veterans Affairs in 2000 for alleged mental health reasons, would have a chance to clean their records. The federal government would be permanently barred from charging gun buyers or sellers a fee for their background checks. In addition, faulty records such as duplicative names or expunged convictions would have to be scrubbed from the database. "The NRA worked diligently with the concerns of gun owners and law enforcement in mind to make a . . . system that's better for gun owners and better for law enforcement," said House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman John D. Dingell (D-Mich.), a former NRA board member, who led the talks. Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) had been pushing similar legislation for years. But her reputation as a staunch opponent of the gun lobby -- she came to Congress to promote gun control after her husband was gunned down in a massacre on the Long Island Rail Road -- ruined any chance of a deal with the NRA. By contrast, this agreement is a marriage of convenience for both sides. Democratic leaders are eager to show that they can respond legislatively to the Virginia Tech rampage, a feat that GOP leaders would not muster after the 1999 shootings at Columbine High School in Colorado. Meanwhile, the NRA was motivated to show it would not stand in the way of a bill that would not harm law-abiding gun buyers. Even so, it drove a hard bargain to quiet its smaller but more vociferous rival, Gun Owners of America, which has long opposed McCarthy's background-check bill. Chris W. Cox, the NRA's chief lobbyist, said yesterday that the organization will strongly support the legislation as written. "We've been on record for decades for keeping firearms out of the hands of the mentally adjudicated. It's not only good policy, it's good politics," he said. But Cox warned that if the legislation becomes a "gun-control wish list" as it moves through Congress, the NRA will withdraw its support and work against the bill. The NRA reacted furiously to the last major federal gun-control legislation, a 1994 ban on assault weapons, and that reaction helped sweep Democrats from control of Congress later that year. Vice President Al Gore's embrace of gun-control proposals helped secure his defeat in the presidential election of 2000, and Democratic leaders have been leery of touching the issue ever since. This time, Democratic leaders dispatched Dingell and Rep. Rick Boucher (Va.), a pro-gun Democrat who represents Virginia Tech's home town, Blacksburg, to reach a deal. But talks dragged on over issues of constitutionality and questions over how to institute a means to clear names from the system. On Friday afternoon, the NRA finally signed off. "I've been involved with this legislative effort for years, working to address the shortcomings of NICS. I'm confident that this legislation will do it," Dingell said. "No law will prevent evildoers from doing evil acts, but this law will help ensure that those deemed dangerous by the courts will not be able to purchase a weapon." Under the bill, states voluntarily participating in the system would have to file an audit with the U.S. attorney general of all the criminal cases, mental health adjudications and court-ordered drug treatments that had not been filed with the instant-check system. The federal government would then pick up 90 percent of the cost for the states to get up to date within 180 days of the audit. Once the attorney general determines that a state has cleared its backlog, the federal government would begin financing all the costs of keeping the system current. If a state's compliance lapses, the attorney general would be authorized to cut federal law enforcement grants, with more draconian aid cuts mandated if noncompliance stretches longer than a year. The bill would authorize payments to the states of $250 million a year between 2008 and 2010, when the program would have to be reassessed and reauthorized by Congress. Only one state, Vermont, does not participate in the instant-check system, and even with the threatened aid cuts, negotiators expressed confidence that no other state would drop out, given the funding that would be available and the stigma that would be attached to withdrawal. "I can't imagine a scenario where a state would drop out, and say what? 'If you're adjudicated schizophrenic, you can buy your guns here'?" asked a Democratic aide involved directly in the negotiations, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not cleared to speak to reporters. ******************************************* 11. Sheriff in Colorado stands up for guns on campus! (This is MY kind of sheriff!) ******************************************* We need a sheriff like this in Virginia: http://tinyurl.com/2hx83k Sheriff calls for guns on campus and mental health reform written by: Adam Chodak , 9NEWS Northern Reporter created: 6/6/2007 3:33:10 PM Last updated: 6/6/2007 6:32:41 PM FORT COLLINS - The Larimer County Sheriff Jim Alderden is not one to hold back his opinion. So it is not all that surprising that his most recent editorial has some strong opinions regarding gun control at universities and mental health. Twice a month, Alderden posts an editorial called the "Bull's-eye" on his office's Web site. This week, he posted one addressing issues that arose in the aftermath of the Virginia Tech University shootings. He wrote, "One of the real tragedies of the situation at Virginia Tech is that misguided administrators created a gun-free zone." In an interview, Alderden said Colorado State University has it right. CSU allows students and faculty to carry concealed firearms on campus. Alderden says the last thing universities should do right now is create more gun control. "When you create an area where law-abiding citizens can't defend themselves, it just creates a greater opportunity for those who are criminally-minded," Alderden said to 9NEWS. The sheriff then switches gears in the editorial saying Virginia Tech and a recent murder-suicide in Fort Collins, in which a man shot his neighbor to death in a business complex, show the need for mental health reform. In the editorial, he wrote, "The problem is that it isn't illegal to be crazy and the system is ill equipped to deal with the chronically mentally ill." Alderden then suggests a solution. "These people need more mental health treatment and there needs to be a greater ability to institutionalize these people who do pose a threat to society," he writes. Not everyone agrees with Alderden. The University of Colorado at Boulder forbids concealed firearms on campus. CU Police Department Commander Brad Wiesley says switching that policy could decrease safety on campus. "There's no standard way to identify the good guys versus the bad guys in the middle of an active shooting situation. It tremendously complicates the response for officers responding," said Wiesley. On the mental health front, the National Alliance on Mental Health says there are alternatives to institutionalizing more people. "The U.S. Surgeon General has reported that the likelihood of violence by people with mental illness is low Š More often, people living with mental illness are the victims of violence," states NAMI in a press release that went out after the Virginia Tech shootings. ******************************************* 12. Brookings Institution to hold forum on gun control ******************************************* George Lyon sent me this link in case any of you might want to attend this event in DC: http://www.brookings.edu/comm/events/20070611.htm A Brookings Judicial Issues Forum Is the Right to Bear Arms an Anachronism? Moderator: Stuart Taylor, Jr. Nonresident Senior Fellow, The Brookings Institution; Columnist, National Journal; Contributor, Newsweek Panelists: Benjamin Wittes Guest Scholar, The Brookings Institution Randy Barnett Carmack Waterhouse Professor of Legal Theory, Georgetown University Law Center Josh Sugarmann Executive Director, Violence Policy Center Jens Ludwig Professor of Public Policy, Georgetown University; Nonresident Senior Fellow, The Brookings Institution Monday, June 11, 2007 10:00 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. Falk Auditorium The Brookings Institution 1775 Massachusetts Ave. NW Washington, DC In the biggest decision in decades on whether the Constitution's Second Amendment creates a personal right to keep and bear arms, a District of Columbia federal appeals court recently struck down the district's ban against having a pistol or an operational rifle, even at home for self-defense. If the district seeks Supreme Court review, it could lead to the most important gun control decision in history. Meanwhile, the mass murder at Virginia Tech University stoked the perennially simmering debate whether stronger gun controls could prevent such horrors-or make them more likely. On June 11, the Brookings Institution continues its Judicial Issues Forum series with a discussion of the practical and constitutional arguments for and against various forms of gun control. Panelists include Josh Sugarmann, executive director of the Violence Policy Center; Randy Barnett, Carmack Waterhouse professor of legal theory at the Georgetown University Law Center; Jens Ludwig, professor of public policy at Georgetown University and nonresident senior fellow at Brookings; and Benjamin Wittes, guest scholar at Brookings. Stuart Taylor, Jr., a nonresident senior fellow at Brookings and a writer for National Journal and Newsweek, will moderate the panel. After the program, panelists will take audience questions. ******************************************* 13. West Virginia expands reciprocity - how it affects Virginia ******************************************* A new reciprocity law has just become effective in West Virginia. For those of you with *resident* Virginia CHPs, nothing has changed. However, non-resident permits of any sort are no longer accepted by West Virginia. West Virginia is now accepting Flordia permits, for example, BUT you must be from Florida to carry concealed in West Virginia with it. :-( Thanks to Jim Mullins with the West Virginia Citizens Defense League for keeping me updated. WVCDL came out swinging from the minute they formed! http://www.wvago.gov/press.cfm?ID=350&fx=more ******************************************* 14. VCDL member harassed by DMV security guard, situation has been corrected ******************************************* A VCDL member who was conducting business at a DMV in the Tidewater area was harassed by two security guards. One guard did not have a name tag and refused to identify himself. This was covered in detail in last week's VA-ALERT, Item #6 DMV was polite and helpful when I contacted them about this. I was assured that the guards have been corrected. Member Brian Smith sent me this helpful email about such situations: -- Phil, Please let everyone know that by Department of Criminal Justice Service (DCJS) Regulations, ALL uniformed personnel are REQUIRED to wear a name plate with as a minimum their last name. It is a very minor violation, but when coupled with the rest of the story, it becomes a serious issue. They also mis-handled the contact whereas if they believe that the armed person was in violation of the law, should have approached them when they walked in, or B) should have called for Law Enforcement to deal with the situation. A complaint can be filed with DCJS against the Guards. There was an incident over a year ago where a close friend who was also a Fed at the time had his weapon in a fanny pack. A Security Guard with a pistol on his side came to him and told him that he would have to leave and that he had already called the Police. My friend being, a New Yorker, waited for the Police. They got stupid and tried to tell him that he was in violation of the law for carrying in a State Office. At that time he Identified himself and explained the facts of life to the two officers and corrected them in the error of their ways. He also pointed out to them that they should have a talk with the young misinformed security guard who was most likely an unarmed guard and also carrying a PELLET GUN! Young security guard left in cuffs. Here we have a couple of problems. First off is Young security guard trying to be "Billy Badge". Secondly, he was "carrying" without the proper credentials required for being an armed guard. Third we have the cops who were trying to intimidate a "civilian" whom they A) didn't know was a cop, and B) knew the law better than they did. For the record... as a Security Business owner I wish to apologize for these folks. Personally, I try to hire only Military and then retired LEO's, then LEO's moonlighting with permission. The main problem that I see frequently is the calibre of people hired for security positions. And this makes things harder for people like myself running a business that way that it is supposed to be run. The problem is that most of these security companies out there are paying their people $6-8 and hour. They have to take every "warm body" that walks through the door. I pay double that to folks with their credentials. I can pick and choose who I want. I get the cream of the crop. The down side is that most clients want to go with the lowest bidder. And incidents like this are what you get. There is a link on my web site at the bottom of the page ( <http://www.paradigminv.com>www.paradigminv.com ) to DCJS complaints. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance. Brian Smith President / Compliance Agent Paradigm Investigations, Inc. ******************************************* 15. Applying 2nd Amendment restrictions to the 1st Amendment ;-) ******************************************* Gun Control is a stupid idea that is harmful to public safety. We received an email suggesting that we use the same gun-control 'logic' for the 1st Amendment: * You may speak no more than ten words without pausing for thirty seconds so as not to have 'assault speech.' * You may speak no more than one word per second to keep from spraying ideas all over a room. * Your mouth must be taped shut when in a theater in case you decide to yell, "fire!" * When in a restaurant that serves alcohol, you must pin a paper on your chest with your political beliefs so that those beliefs are not concealed * If you have secret beliefs not told to everyone around you, you must have a permit to keep such information concealed ******************************************* 16. Germanna Community College still wants to violate state law ******************************************* Roy B. Sherer is still battling to get Germanna Community College to bring their rules into alignment with Virginia law. The school still thinks they can ban non-students from carrying on campus. They are wrong. This can be done the easy way or the hard way, it's up to them. We'll keep on top of Germanna until they comply with the law. ******************************************* 17. Suffolk Parks 'no guns' wording removed from signs now ******************************************* Dennis O'Connor headed up the effort to get rid of the 'no guns' wording on Suffolk Park signs. Dennis reports that the signs are now fixed, with the offending words spray-painted over. Once the problem was pointed out to Suffolk Parks, they moved quickly to remedy the situation. ******************************************* 18. Article on the history of gun control ******************************************* Thanks to Paul Taylor for the link: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56047 The history of gun control, part 1 Sandy Froman, past NRA President Philosopher George Santayana said that those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. It's true. One of the reasons to study history is to avoid repeating past mistakes. When it comes to freedom, we cannot afford to forget the lessons of the past. So you and I need to know the history of gun control, because history teaches us there is a terrible price to pay when we lose our right to keep and bear arms. Over 200 years ago, when the Founding Fathers drafted the Second Amendment, no one questioned the need for private gun ownership. The Framers considered private firearms to be essential to protecting personal liberty, both as a means of opposing foreign threats and also as a check against excessive government power. The Framers were passionately devoted to the idea that a self-sufficient armed citizenry is the best means of preserving liberty. But many on the left do not want you to know this. They keep the truth from being taught in public schools, and they even write books laden with falsehoods in a dishonest attempt to rewrite history. Seven years ago, Emory University historian Michael Bellesiles published a book purportedly proving there were few guns and gun owners in early America. The book garnered Columbia University's coveted Bancroft Prize. Two years later, primarily due to the efforts of a brilliant young research historian, Clayton Cramer, who had studied that period in history extensively, the book was revealed to be a total fraud, full of lies and fabrications. Bellesiles was forced to resign from Emory University and, for the first time in history, Columbia University rescinded the Bancroft Prize. Every American who values his or her constitutional rights should know something about these frauds that gun control advocates perpetrate so we can be watchful and teach the truth to our young ones. Early Americans were gun owners. Private firearm ownership was widespread from the coasts to the frontier, in both the North and the South. Our ancestors not only knew the value of gun rights, they actually practiced those rights. Many early Americans provided for their family through their skill with a firearm, and many more Americans had a gun hanging over the hearth or in the bedroom to protect the house and the children against wild animals or criminals. These firearms were also seen as an insurance policy against American Indians, the British or French, and even against our own central government. This honored tradition went completely unchallenged until the 1900s. Then New York passed the Sullivan Act in 1911, one of the first gun control laws. This law required that firearms small enough to be concealed on a person be registered. This state law became a test measure for future gun control laws. Opponents of the Second Amendment started to mobilize at the federal level in the 1930s. It came during the New Deal, when the federal government was growing rapidly. Two laws enacted during this period, the National Firearms Act of 1934 and the Federal Firearms Act of 1938, established the first federal gun controls. While most of these regulations were uncontroversial by current standards (such as licensing gun dealers and regulating possession of machine guns), they introduced the concept of national regulation of firearms. It was also during this time President Franklin Roosevelt appointed a number of liberals to the United States Supreme Court. Starting in 1937, the high court began moving in a liberal direction, and by the 1960s had become a court favoring full judicial activism, a judicial philosophy that has threatened our Second Amendment rights ever since. During this period, anti-Second Amendment politicians began testing the waters on gun control. The highest-ranking official to do this was FDR's anti-gun attorney general, Homer Cummings. Attorney General Cummings started planning for federal gun control measures such as a national registry in the hands of the central government for guns and gun owners. But then World War II broke out, and Germany and Japan invaded their neighbors. The American people were reminded how important it is to have a firearm handy when you need one. Cummings' early attempts to regulate guns and gun owners suddenly became unpopular. Gun control advocates lowered their voices until a more opportune time. Most American leaders in both political parties were pro-gun. In fact, Democratic presidents Harry Truman and John F. Kennedy were NRA members. Gun control advocates were always present in policy debates, but did not have much political clout. In the 1960s, gun control came back with a vengeance. Modern liberalism became the dominant political philosophy in this country. And after the deaths of JFK, Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr., an all-out national push for gun control was launched. This period in the late 1960s was the beginning of significant gun control in America. Liberal activist judges, led by the Warren Court, enacted a widespread liberal agenda. American society was being secularized. President Johnson was forcing a hard-left agenda through the Great Society. And the Vietnam War was becoming increasingly unpopular. It was against that backdrop the left finally launched an open, concerted effort to implement national gun control. And that's what we'll talk about next week, remembering that if we ignore the lessons that history offers us, our children will pay the price with their freedom. ******************************************* 19. Anti-gun editorial on VT asks for full Brady wish list (ugh) ******************************************* Because of the tragedy at VT, this guy wants to go for all kinds of gun control, none of which would have changed a thing for those 32 murdered people: http://tinyurl.com/27wlg4 After Tech, common-sense gun control laws cannot be ignored Monday, Jun 04, 2007 - 12:12 AM Updated: 12:51 PM By Mike Fox A nationwide Associated Press poll conducted the week of the Virginia Tech tragedy found that 52 percent answered "yes" to "Do you feel ashamed that this could happen in this country?" Only 52 percent? Any percentage less than 100 is disheartening. Have Americans simply accepted such violence and crime as just a part of our society? Has it become normal? Whatever others' sentiments may be, I refuse to accept senseless mass murder of innocent people as "normal." After Tech, after the infinite number of other public mass shootings, I say enough. After weeks of trying to find the right words, I refuse to remain silent on what I see as a destructive and embarrassing culture of violence fueled in part by a glorification of guns; common sense gun control can no longer be ignored. I AM not "politicizing" the Tech tragedy by wanting to discuss gun control. Once the facts of the shootings became known, lawmakers across the nation immediately re-evaluated mental health treatment and college safety protocol as well as background check procedures. Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine closed a loophole in background check data-mining regarding mental illness disqualifications, and Congress is currently reviewing a bill that would help all states do the same. Besides revamping the background check system, the federal assault weapons ban needs to be reinstated. No hunter could possibly need an Uzi, AK-47 or AR-15, and they're gratuitous for home protection. Furthermore, the ban that expired three years ago - a survey at the time showed two-thirds of Americans supported extending it - would limit magazine capacity. Also, President Bush should sign into law a bill which would allow the U.S. attorney general to deny a gun purchase to anyone on a terror suspect watch list. Virginia limits purchasers to one gun per month, but a three- to five-day waiting period should also be enacted, as well as finally requiring background checks at gun shows for unlicensed venders. The new law restricting undercover sting firearm straw purchases was a tremendous step backward for a legislature that touts Virginia as a "law-and-order state." AMERICANS AS a whole seem to have also declared "enough." That same AP poll found that 87 percent of Americans see gun violence as a serious problem today. Also, 47 percent of Americans support stricter gun control laws while 38 percent don't, and 55 percent say they are more likely to support a presidential candidate who favors stricter gun control laws. More women and minorities support stricter gun control laws than men and whites, 59-34 and 55-44 percent, respectively, and women and minorities are also more likely than men and whites to say gun violence is a concern and worry about becoming a victim of gun violence. The most common commentary after the Tech tragedy seemed to collectively conclude, "Well, madmen will be madmen, there's nothing we can do." What if America responded that way after Sept. 11, 2001? With that kind of argument, why bother to have any laws at all if madmen and criminals are just going to break them? Some conservatives mulled that if concealed weapons had been permitted on Tech's campus, the gunman might've been stopped. Yet, that doesn't mean anyone in Norris Hall would've had a concealed weapon or that they would've been able to use it to stop the gunman; after all, more than 50 people were killed or wounded in that building. A SURVEYUSA poll conducted in the Lynchburg-Roanoke area the week of the Tech tragedy found that 52 percent think Virginia's gun laws need to be more restrictive, compared to 38 percent who say it's about right. When asked if fewer or more people would have died at Tech on April 16 had concealed guns been allowed on campus, 44 percent said it would not have made a difference while 31 percent said more people would have died. Rep. Rick Boucher, a Democrat whose constituency includes Blacksburg, stressed that even if he tried, there simply isn't enough support in Congress or the White House to support any sweeping gun control measures. Sadly, this may be true. Most Republicans won't commit political suicide by touching the issue, and the Democratic Party doesn't want to jeopardize inroads made during last year's midterm elections in red states in a run up to Election Day 2008. And of course there's the influence and power of the gun lobby. But when we say "no more," we have to mean it. Robert F. Kennedy may have said it best: "Tragedy is a tool for the living to gain wisdom, not a guide by which to live." ******************************************* 20. Another anti-gun editorial ******************************************* http://tinyurl.com/2j9ovd Shooting holes in gun proponents' arguments Larry Gaber and Polly Archer Gaber is a retired Department of Defense civilian and Vietnam veteran. Archer is a lifelong member of the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers). They live in Dublin. Having reached our saturation point with the arguments supporting handguns for self-defense, especially those that start out with "Well, why don't we ban automobiles because they kill people," we felt it was essential to restate what should be obvious -- handguns are designed and sold solely for the purpose of killing. [Yeah, tell that to someone whose family member was intentionally run over by someone - PVC] Given that fact, all of those who seem to believe that some mythical Old West environment, with everyone carrying a handgun, will deter shootings such as the recent tragedy at Virginia Tech need to exercise some independent thought and not just repeat the spoon-fed NRA line. If simply being armed was sufficient, we would have no police officers shot in the line of duty. [So, if we disarmed police FEWER police would get killed? Sheesh. - PVC] Another argument, the deterrence factor, is equally specious -- for every crime that is supposedly deterred because an "outlaw" will think twice if he knows/thinks his intended victim may be armed, how many innocent spouses, children, friends or strangers are killed because a handgun is available in the heat of the moment or seen as a toy or used in a case of mistaken identity or mistaken intent or simply by accidental discharge? [All the more reason to be armed yourself. Good point. - PVC] Finally, the old NRA mantra "if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" is hauled out yet again. The most commonly stolen items in burglaries are guns. The outlaws are aware of the absurd number of guns in private residences just waiting to be taken. [A criminal might steal your car to use in a murder. Should cars be banned to prevent such thefts from happening? - PVC] Those NRA stickers in the windows of vehicles might just as well serve as an advertisement or invitation for the outlaws, telling them where they are guaranteed to find guns. [You could always put up a sticker saying you don't have any guns. I'm sure the criminals would find that useful, too. - PVC] The solution, and one that works in the United Kingdom (and Australia in an even stricter form) is to ban the private ownership of all handguns. Only authorized and trained law enforcement officers could possess them in the line of duty. [Works so well that crimes committed with guns have been going up by leaps and bounds in those countries. - PVC] Any "collector" handguns would be rendered unfireable. Rifles and shotguns would be registered and licensed, but only for people who also possess valid hunting permits for their use. Semiautomatic weapons would not be allowed and clip/chamber capacity would be limited. The Army managed to do well in the Second World War with an eight-round clip in the Garand M-1 rifle. If a hunter requires more than eight rounds to get his deer, turkey or duck, then he needs more time on the practice range. If a firearm (not a handgun) is used only for competitive shooting, then the owners must belong to a registered shooting club or organization and only use at the ranges for these clubs or events. [So much for the statement about the NRA's old bag of tricks. This stuff is all from the Brady's old bag of tricks. - PVC] A sane world, without the accidental or mistaken shootings inevitable with the proliferation of handguns, is possible. A world without the tragedy of senseless shootings such as Columbine, the Amish schoolgirls or Virginia Tech is a hope or dream that requires intervention and follow-up for troubled and disturbed individuals, but also the elimination of the means to kill so easily. [Yeah - and a world without crack cocaine should have been possible, too, as it is totally banned. But, guess what? Criminals will always be able to easily get contraband, not what that contraband is. How very naive this pair of writers are. - PVC] What a sane 21st-century world does not need is more "cowboys" or "cowgirls" carrying handguns to be used at their discretion and judgment. [Down with freedom and personal responsibility! Up with Communism! Amazing. - PVC] ******************************************* 21. Gun shows and events! ******************************************* As an all volunteer organization, VCDL depends on YOU to volunteer your time at our area events, where we recruit new activists and keep gun owners informed. No experience necessary; if it's your first time we'll pair you with a veteran volunteer. To find out more about helping at our gun show tables, go to http://www2.vcdl.org/cgi-bin/wspd_cgi.sh/vcdl/gs.html and click on any of the blue links, or contact the coordinator for the show/event listed below that you are interested in helping with. Here are the upcoming events we need YOUR help with: a. RICHMOND ( http://www.cegunshows.com ), July 7-8 Saturday, July 7 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, July 8 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Contact Audrey Muehleisen at [email protected] to help at the Showplace in Mechanicsville. b. SALEM ( http://www.cegunshows.com ), July 14-15 Saturday, July 14 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, July 15 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Please contact Al Steed, Jr. at [email protected] to help in Salem. c. WYTHEVILLE, VCDL Meeting at 7:00 p.m., Saturday July 14. The public is welcome - you need not be a member to attend. Come join us for fellowship and updates on Virginia gun rights initiatives! And if you have favorite gun shows or other places where you can post notice of this meeting, contact Dave Knight at [email protected] for flyers. Location: Providence Reformed Presbyterian Church 180 West Main Street Wytheville, VA 24382 Directions: - Take Route 81 to Exit 73 - Merge onto East Main Street (US Route 11), toward Wytheville - Go 2.4 miles to # 180, on the right - note that E. Main bears left at a traffic light, at which the center lane is the only 'thru' lane The church entrance is located between two street-level storefronts. The sanctuary and meeting rooms are upstairs, and to the left. Contact Al Steed, Jr. at [email protected] for more information. d. CHANTILLY ( http://www.cegunshows.com ), July 27-29 Friday, July 27 3:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m. Saturday, July 28 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, July 29 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Please contact our Northern Virginia coordinator at [email protected] to help in Chantilly. e. DALE CITY (http://www.olddominionshows.com ), August 4-5 Saturday, Aug. 4 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Aug. 5 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact our Northern Virginia coordinator at [email protected] to help in Dale City. f. ROANOKE, Virginia Outdoors Sportsman Classic (VOSC) show, (http://www.vaoutdoorsportsmensclassic.com ), August 10-12. VCDL member Graeme Anderson, the owner of Roanoke based Empire Siding and Windows (540-929-8010), has generously paid for VCDL to have a booth at the VOSC show at the Roanoke Civic Center Special Event Center (next door to the main Civic Center)for ALL THREE DAYS! Now, all we need is YOU to help run our table. Please contact Al Steed, Jr. at [email protected] to tell him you can help. Friday, August 10 12:00 - 4:00 p.m. 4:00 - 8:00 p.m. Saturday, August 11 10:00 a.m. - 3:00 p.m. 3:00 - 8:00 p.m. Sunday, August 12 12:00 - 3:00 p.m. 3:00 - 6:00 p.m. g. ROANOKE ( http://www.showmasters.us ), Aug. 18-19 Saturday, Aug 18 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Aug 19 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Al Steed, Jr., at [email protected] to help in Roanoke. h. HARRISONBURG (http://www.showmasters.us ), Aug 25-26 Saturday, Aug 25 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Aug 26 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Bob Schmidt at [email protected] to help in Harrisonburg. i. NORFOLK (at the Norfolk Scope, http://www.showmasters.us ), Sept. 8-9 Saturday, Sept. 8 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Sept. 9 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Ron and Jean Hyson at [email protected] to help at the Norfolk Scope. j. FREDERICKSBURG ( http://www.guns-knives.com/Fredericksburg.html ), Sept 8-9 Saturday, Sept 8 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Sept 9 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Contact Robert Herron at [email protected] to help in Fredericksburg. k. HAMPTON ( http://www.guns-knives.com ), Sept 15-16 Saturday, Sept 15 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Sept 16 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Ron Lilly at [email protected] to help in Hampton. l. SALEM ( http://www.cegunshows.com ), Sept 22-23 Saturday, Sept 22 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Sept 23 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Please contact Al Steed, Jr. at [email protected] to help in Salem. m. NEWPORT NEWS, 5th Annual Military Vehicle & Militaria Collector Show, September 29-30. Mr. Robert House, President of the Hampton Roads Militaria Society, has donated a table to VCDL for this event. It will be held at the Virginia War Museum, 9285 Warwick Blvd (next to the James River Bridge). All we need is YOU to help us work our recruiting and information table. No experience necessary! Saturday, Sept 29 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Sept 30 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Ron and Jean Hyson at <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] to help in Newport News. n. DALE CITY ( http://www.olddominionshows.com ), Oct. 6-7 Saturday, Oct. 6 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Oct. 7 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact our Northern Virginia coordinator at [email protected] to help in Dale City. o. VIRGINIA BEACH ( http://www.guns-knives.com ), Oct. 13-14 Saturday, Oct. 13 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, OCt 14 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Ron and Jean Hyson at [email protected] to help in Virginia Beach. p. RICHMOND ( http://www.cegunshows.com ), Oct. 20-21 Saturday, Oct. 20 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, OCt. 21 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Contact Audrey Muehleisen at [email protected] to help at the Showplace in Mechanicsville. q. ROANOKE ( http://www.showmasters.us ), Oct. 27-28 Saturday, Oct. 27 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Oct. 28 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Al Steed, Jr., at [email protected] to help in Roanoke. r. ROANOKE, Nov. 3, 2007. 4th Annual VCDL Benefit Shoot Contact Al Steed, Jr. at [email protected] to help or participate. s. CHANTILLY ( http://www.cegunshows.com ), Nov. 16-18 Friday, Nov 16 3:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m. Saturday, Nov 17 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Nov 18 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Please contact our Northern Virginia coordinator at [email protected] to help in Chantilly. t. HAMPTON ( http://www.guns-knives.com/Fredericksburg.html ), Nov. 24-25 Saturday, Nov 24 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Nov 25 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Ron Lilly at [email protected] to help in Hampton. u. RICHMOND ( http://www.cegunshows.com ), Dec. 1-2 Saturday, Dec. 1 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Dec. 2 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Contact Audrey Muehleisen at [email protected] to help at the Showplace in Mechanicsville. v. HARRISONBURG ( http://www.showmasters.us ), Dec. 8-9 Saturday, Dec. 8 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Dec. 9 9:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. 12:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Bob Schmidt at [email protected] to help in Harrisonburg. w. SALEM ( http://www.cegunshows.com ), Dec. 15-16 Saturday, Dec. 15 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Dec. 16 10:00 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Please contact Al Steed, Jr. at [email protected] to help in Salem. x. FREDERICKSBURG ( http://www.guns-knives.com ), Dec. 15-16 Saturday, Dec. 15 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Dec. 16 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Contact Robert Herron at [email protected] to help in Fredericksburg. y. VIRGINIA BEACH ( http://www.guns-knives.com/Fredericksburg.html ), Dec. 29-30 Saturday, Dec. 29 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Dec. 30 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Ron and Jean Hyson at [email protected] to help in Virginia Beach. z. HAMPTON ( http://www.guns-knives.com ), Jan 26-27, 2008 Saturday, Jan. 26 9:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sunday, Jan. 27 10:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. Please contact Ron Lilly at [email protected] to help in Hampton. aa. 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