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9/14/2004 3:03:17 PM EDT
Discussed this with the company that manufactures all of our barrels today and they agreed to do the threading for the flash suppressor, I need to know about how many want it done so they can set a price for us.

They requested that all barrels go thru me since they do not desire to be recognized since they work on a very discreet business plan, Gotm4 can vouch for the barrels he has seen and all work is top notch to exact standards with no questions on quality.

If we do this I want to ship all the barrels at once, tagged and named so I do not have to ship barrels one at a time seeing as this is will be for cost only and I do not expect anyone to pay for anything other than the work by them and shipping.

Each one will have to be stripped of the upper receiver so we will have to do it at my house in masse, each barrel will receive a name tag and ½-28 threads when completed to Military specs.

Please post here if interested.
9/14/2004 4:31:54 PM EDT
[#1]
Tag, Im game
9/14/2004 5:44:31 PM EDT
[#2]
If less than $40, then I would be +2  

FMO
9/15/2004 6:06:01 AM EDT
[#3]
Put me and Hard Rock down for at least two.

One of them will have to have a welded-on muzzle brake cut off, then the barrel re-crowned and threaded.  If your contact can't do this no problem.  I don't need to keep the brake - it's loud and obnoxious, and we'll be getting cans for these rifles anyway. :)
9/15/2004 9:26:24 AM EDT
[#4]
If they can crown the barrel before threading, then I'm in for one.
9/15/2004 4:12:39 PM EDT
[#5]
Any machine work prior to threading is not a problem since they done mine from raw stock and then had it chrome lined, furthermore the work is impeccable. All my new barrel has for marking is N9C for Nato chamber, 1/9 twist and chrome chamber and bore.

I will let this run for a week and then take a tally of the persons interested so we can get it rolling, if you decide to drop off I understand and please let me know since I am going to use this to send as a work order to them.
9/16/2004 8:12:56 AM EDT
[#6]
I would be interested, but I've got a RRA press-on fake that I'm unsure of how it comes off.  (not to mention I'll need help disassembling/reassemblng the upper)
9/16/2004 9:20:10 AM EDT
[#7]
I'm interested but clueless and not too handy either...But by the time I paid to have my upper dis/reassembled I dont think I'll be saving anything.
9/16/2004 9:24:32 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I'm interested but clueless and not too handy either...But by the time I paid to have my upper dis/reassembled I dont think I'll be saving anything.



If you're capable of pushing your two take down pins and removing the upper assy from the lower assy.  LRT can remove the barrel from the receiver.  No majic involved here he has all the tools and a TON of experience in doing it.
9/16/2004 9:39:35 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
I'm interested but clueless and not too handy either...But by the time I paid to have my upper dis/reassembled I dont think I'll be saving anything.



I'm using this as an excuse to learn the whole thing.  Not that I've got tools or a work area to do it in, but it's a "nice to know" kinda thing for me.
9/16/2004 9:55:44 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm interested but clueless and not too handy either...But by the time I paid to have my upper dis/reassembled I dont think I'll be saving anything.



I'm using this as an excuse to learn the whole thing.  Not that I've got tools or a work area to do it in, but it's a "nice to know" kinda thing for me.



I can show you how and I'm sure Hoplophile or LRT would show you too.  It at most is a 10 min job.  Not really worth it buying your own tools unless you'll be swapping barrels etc often.   My wife an I have 5 ARs so that's why I've learned to do it and bought the tools.  You won't believe how easy it is vs. how much gunsmiths charge to do it.
9/16/2004 12:40:55 PM EDT
[#11]
I would like to participate please...

Can they thread an SAR-1?

As for my AR... I have a bushy M4 type 14.5' barrel with the Mini-Y... the barrel is already threaded.. I just need someone to remove the mini-Y and permantly attach (silver weld ??) my new phantom.  Could you do this, LRT?

I am NoVA. Thanks!
9/16/2004 2:55:15 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I'm interested but clueless and not too handy either...But by the time I paid to have my upper dis/reassembled I dont think I'll be saving anything.



Pssit

I am doing the upper disassembly and reassembly for free for anyone interested.

Why for free?

Because I am not that tight and anal about making a buck off a fellow shooter.
9/16/2004 2:58:45 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
I would like to participate please...

Can they thread an SAR-1?

As for my AR... I have a bushy M4 type 14.5' barrel with the Mini-Y... the barrel is already threaded.. I just need someone to remove the mini-Y and permantly attach (silver weld ??) my new phantom.  Could you do this, LRT?

I am NoVA. Thanks!



Let me ask Monday about the SAR-1, I could take a look at the shorty and as long as the mini Y is not pinned  or attached in a perminant manner prior to attaching it, this could be done easy and would only take 20 minutes or so here at the house.
9/16/2004 3:16:16 PM EDT
[#14]
Cool... email sent!


Quoted:

Quoted:
I would like to participate please...

Can they thread an SAR-1?

As for my AR... I have a bushy M4 type 14.5' barrel with the Mini-Y... the barrel is already threaded.. I just need someone to remove the mini-Y and permantly attach (silver weld ??) my new phantom.  Could you do this, LRT?

I am NoVA. Thanks!



Let me ask Monday about the SAR-1, I could take a look at the shorty and as long as the mini Y is not pinned  or attached in a perminant manner prior to attaching it, this could be done easy and would only take 20 minutes or so here at the house.

9/16/2004 4:47:15 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm interested but clueless and not too handy either...But by the time I paid to have my upper dis/reassembled I dont think I'll be saving anything.



If you're capable of pushing your two take down pins and removing the upper assy from the lower assy.  LRT can remove the barrel from the receiver.  No majic involved here he has all the tools and a TON of experience in doing it.



The 2 pin deal was how I "assembled" it...It anything else that I wonder about.
9/16/2004 4:49:09 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm interested but clueless and not too handy either...But by the time I paid to have my upper dis/reassembled I dont think I'll be saving anything.



Pssit

I am doing the upper disassembly and reassembly for free for anyone interested.

Why for free?

Because I am not that tight and anal about making a buck off a fellow shooter.



That's Great...This will be in NoVA won't it?
9/16/2004 5:59:26 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm interested but clueless and not too handy either...But by the time I paid to have my upper dis/reassembled I dont think I'll be saving anything.



Pssit

I am doing the upper disassembly and reassembly for free for anyone interested.

Why for free?

Because I am not that tight and anal about making a buck off a fellow shooter.




9/16/2004 6:49:09 PM EDT
[#18]

Because I am not that tight and anal
am in+1 AR and a sar-1 if it can be done
9/16/2004 8:28:39 PM EDT
[#19]
What about just drilling out a set screw from one of Kurt's Kustoms muzzle brakes. It should already be threaded underneath the brake. I have the instructions from Kurt on how to do it. I just don't have access to a work shop with a drill press.  I would mess it up using just my hand held drill.
9/16/2004 8:33:44 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
What about just drilling out a set screw from one of Kurt's Kustoms muzzle brakes. It should already be threaded underneath the brake. I have the instructions from Kurt on how to do it. I just don't have access to a work shop with a drill press.  I would mess it up using just my hand held drill.


Are you sure it has a set screw?  Both of the KKF brakes I've removed had pins, not screws.  But the brakes I've bought from him more recently had set screws.

With the set screws you can use a file to get below the weld then just cut a slot in the top of the set screw and unsrcrew it with a flat-head screwdriver.
9/16/2004 8:50:40 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What about just drilling out a set screw from one of Kurt's Kustoms muzzle brakes. It should already be threaded underneath the brake. I have the instructions from Kurt on how to do it. I just don't have access to a work shop with a drill press.  I would mess it up using just my hand held drill.


Are you sure it has a set screw?  Both of the KKF brakes I've removed had pins, not screws.  But the brakes I've bought from him more recently had set screws.

With the set screws you can use a file to get below the weld then just cut a slot in the top of the set screw and unsrcrew it with a flat-head screwdriver.



I'm guessing it's a screw.  His instruction call for drilling it.  Maybe he can't recall either, I had it put on little over 3 years ago.
9/17/2004 5:17:48 AM EDT
[#22]
Any idea on the cost/turnaround time for the work?  I've got a few naked barrels...at least 2... that I'm thinking of doing.  
9/17/2004 12:30:40 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm interested but clueless and not too handy either...But by the time I paid to have my upper dis/reassembled I dont think I'll be saving anything.



Pssit

I am doing the upper disassembly and reassembly for free for anyone interested.

Why for free?

Because I am not that tight and anal about making a buck off a fellow shooter.




Thanks for the offer!  

I just ordered 2 crush washers and then found I won't need them for a Smiths Flash Suppressor I'm getting so they're yours if you want them.
9/18/2004 1:28:22 PM EDT
[#24]
I'm in.
1 Ar barrel.
Wish I could get my Berreta storm done too,  hmmm maybe???


9/18/2004 2:45:25 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm interested but clueless and not too handy either...But by the time I paid to have my upper dis/reassembled I dont think I'll be saving anything.



Pssit

I am doing the upper disassembly and reassembly for free for anyone interested.

Why for free?

Because I am not that tight and anal about making a buck off a fellow shooter.



That's Great...This will be in NoVA won't it?




Yepper, in the Haymarket area
9/18/2004 2:46:30 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:

Because I am not that tight and anal
am in+1 AR and a sar-1 if it can be done



Will ask about the sar Monday, so far 2 need to be evilized
9/18/2004 2:49:19 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
What about just drilling out a set screw from one of Kurt's Kustoms muzzle brakes. It should already be threaded underneath the brake. I have the instructions from Kurt on how to do it. I just don't have access to a work shop with a drill press.  I would mess it up using just my hand held drill.



Drill press I use is at work and the clown at the shop who did work for pay on the side screwed that up and no personal weapons in Uncle Suggars shop anymore.

Will have a press here at the house sometime soon, perhaps I know a few guys who could do it here in NOVA.
9/18/2004 2:55:28 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
Any idea on the cost/turnaround time for the work?  I've got a few naked barrels...at least 2... that I'm thinking of doing.  



As of yet, no not sure but they are very tight about turn around time and most work is less than 3 weeks for our orders like this. I cannot say for sure until we all get a tally and that will determine the cost and time needed, I can say for sure that the price is not going to be the 75.00+ like some are charging.

If we send them all at once as planned they will ship back the same way to cut down on shipping cost, I will have more information Monday and have the cost set by Wensday and a possible eta for completion.
9/18/2004 7:25:29 PM EDT
[#29]
Count me in for 2 barrels cut to 14.5" and rethreaded.  This 16" shiznit ain't cuttin' it!
9/20/2004 4:44:26 PM EDT
[#30]
Update

Played phone tag today and never did get the information, will try tommarow.
9/21/2004 2:53:16 PM EDT
[#31]
I checked and YUP 75.00 is the going rate at VA Arms.
9/21/2004 4:11:43 PM EDT
[#32]
Finally had success in contacting the shop owner and this is his quote.

25.00 To do each barrel in standard thread with any ar barrel

1.No SARs since they have no way of removing the receiver since they thread by a lath and the receiver would not fit on the barrel lath unless it is a bare barrel.

2.Shipping would depend on the weight of package, I ship one barrel round trip for 20.00 so it may only cost 18.00 or less since this will go out as one shipment.

3.Turn around time may take 3 weeks unless you want your barrel shipped separate since this time is for the entire lot of barrels at one time shipped to and from.

4.So I figure the cost to be around 38 to 40 dollars estimated, the only variance is the shipping and the machine work is a firm price of 25.00 per barrel.

If you are still interested, please post here and let me know how many barrels per member.

Terms of payment is prepaid since they do not want to get stuck with barrels. This is what the owner said, not me.
I will vouch for them and since everyone will know where I live you know this is on the up and up, gotm4 had his barrel done by them for 9x19’s rifle and my M4 barrel is by them and totally custom work.
9/21/2004 5:20:12 PM EDT
[#33]
Can they recrown the barrels?
9/21/2004 5:23:12 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
Can they recrown the barrels?



I believe so.  LRTs M4 barrel was target crowned like your mid-length that you showed me.
9/22/2004 2:08:29 AM EDT
[#35]
I think I will just get a new barrel. Thank's anyway
9/22/2004 4:40:16 AM EDT
[#36]
am in for 1 barrel
9/22/2004 6:06:12 AM EDT
[#37]
I'm waiting on a pic in another thread to see just how stupid a removed RRA fake FH barrel looks with the end threaded and a regular FH on.  There's going to be about a 1/2" of missing barrel and I'm not sure at the moment what I'm doing.

If you move forward and I haven't gotten back, just skip me but I'll try to get a solid decision in ASAP.
9/23/2004 4:25:09 PM EDT
[#38]
No problem, will have to check if he would charge any more since it is a slight upgrade.
9/23/2004 4:27:00 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
I think I will just get a new barrel. Thank's anyway



They also make custom barrels from scratch, what are you looking for?

I can guarantee the price will be better from them and I am going to start selling uppers in December with  the same barrels.
9/23/2004 4:33:16 PM EDT
[#40]
I am in for 1 AR barrel.

No way to do the barrel of a 9mm beretta storm eh?
Either way thank you LTR for the time you are putting into this and your hard work!!!!

Nick
9/23/2004 4:42:37 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
I am in for 1 AR barrel.

No way to do the barrel of a 9mm beretta storm eh?
Either way thank you LTR for the time you are putting into this and your hard work!!!!

Nick



Thank you Sir

Just trying to ease the pain of conversion
9/26/2004 11:45:20 AM EDT
[#42]
long-rifle-tactical

When do you anticipate sending the first shipment of barrels ?
9/26/2004 4:47:36 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
long-rifle-tactical

When do you anticipate sending the first shipment of barrels ?



I will finish up collecting the barrels this week and ship no later than Friday of next week, so you have about 12 or 13 days max left before we ship.

I may see if we can get 2 shipments out since I already have some and would like everyone to get them back asap.
10/3/2004 3:18:44 PM EDT
[#44]
LRT,
sent you an e-mail a few days ago regarding when it would be a good time to get barrel to you. If you did not receive it please let me know at [email protected].
Was hoping to get barrel to you this weekend, maybe next weekend will be ok?
Please let me know.

Nick
10/3/2004 5:23:06 PM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:
LRT,
sent you an e-mail a few days ago regarding when it would be a good time to get barrel to you. If you did not receive it please let me know at [email protected].
Was hoping to get barrel to you this weekend, maybe next weekend will be ok?
Please let me know.

Nick



Oh qwap!

Never recieved it and will have another shipment going out at the end of the week from other messages I got.


Comcast sux
10/4/2004 3:07:21 PM EDT
[#46]
LRT,

Please give me a 'holler' on how to best get upper to you. Are you available weekends? I will gladly drive up to your place so we can pull barrel off the upper.
540-295-1050 or
[email protected]

Nick
10/4/2004 4:06:29 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
LRT,

Please give me a 'holler' on how to best get upper to you. Are you available weekends? I will gladly drive up to your place so we can pull barrel off the upper.
540-295-1050 or
[email protected]

Nick



Will be at the Chantilly gun show Sunday, could do it in the parking lot for you. Most week nights is late when I get home, will call you and see what we can do.
10/7/2004 1:49:03 PM EDT
[#48]
what kinda prices they have for barrels? I just ordered the MGI CQB upper and need a 20" with no Handguard Cap and Barrel Nut. Would like it threaded. Not sure yet what kind of twist rate I want.

Also have a 14.5 bushy with a Handguard Cap and Barrel Nut I need taken off but it has a phantom welded on. Are the welds easy to break or can I send it to the shop in question?

Probably should be posting this in another forum, but since we are on the topic...
10/7/2004 2:31:05 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:
Also have a 14.5 bushy with a Handguard Cap and Barrel Nut I need taken off but it has a phantom welded on. Are the welds easy to break or can I send it to the shop in question?

It is actually welded to the barrel or is it pinned and welded?
10/7/2004 3:41:07 PM EDT
[#50]
I dont know? There looks like there are two holes that have been welded so I would assume pinned and welded. I can take a pic if ya want.
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