Senate Amendment 1, a trailer to SB1657 Gun Dealer Licensing, was filed on SB0333 Regulation Tech, a shell bill today:

Amendment 1

http://ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=10000SB0333sam001&GA=100&SessionId=91&DocTypeId=SB&LegID=100273&DocNum=333&GAID=14&Session=

SB0333

http://ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=333&GAID=14&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=100273&SessionID=91

Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Provides that if and only if Senate Bill 1657 of the 100th General Assembly becomes law in the form in which it passed the Senate on April 27, 2017, then the Gun Dealer Licensing Act is amended by providing that the requirement that a licensee who operates the business at a permanent physical location that is open to the public, that location shall be equipped with a video surveillance system sufficient to monitor the critical areas of the business premises, including, but not limited to, all places where firearms are stored, handled, sold, transferred, or carried does not take effect until January 1, 2021, provides the expiration date and renewal period for each license shall be 5 years, and provides that an application fee or renewal fee for a dealership license or a dealer license shall not exceed $1,000 for the 5-year period. Effective upon Senate Bill 1657 of the 100th General Assembly becoming law.

For those of us not paying attention  ...

Do we who support 2A like this or not like this?

Depends, do you want a camera looking at you while you take a piss in Cabelas?

Ugh. Was hoping the trailer bill added reasonable limits to prevent unlimited limits ...

To pass a horrible bill and then the promise of a moderating (sort of) bill is crazy!!!  Even if the trailer was good, there would be no guarantee it would ever pass!

Update from Todd V on illinoiscarry

http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=67007#entry1113771

..."Well this language has been in the original bill from the beginning. Not only would it mandate bathrooms, but say break rooms, offices aver single inch of the property would have to be covered.

So just like 4117 where we took the simple things and pounded on them, we will do the same thing starting on Monday. And once again the democratic party is more interested in bathrooms, than any rational policy.

?When we find the little absurd points of the bills, it makes it easy to ridicule and defeat. But we have to be careful about educating the other side.

So, no doubt the other side will pick up on this. So what will they do? If they amend the Senate bill it has to go back to the senate if it passes and they don't want to take that chance. Will they amend the "trailer" bill to address this? How soon will the trailer bill pass? They are using a Senate bill, which means it needs 3 readings in the House. If they don't pass it out of the Senate on Monday, they can't pass it out of the House and there are rumors that they may cancel Thursday in the House. So no 3 days.

?On top of that, if 333 passes the Senate, when does it? and when does it get read into the record, because as a new senate bill it should go to committee and require a 7 day posting notice, hmmmm. Are they gonna wave that? Right now there is only one Jud committee scheduled in the House for Monday afternoon.

?So you see the time table works against them. Now I probably just gave ICHV a tutorial in the legislative process in all of this, Hi Mark, Hi Colleen.  :flowers:

But helping all of you understand the process is important and sometime we have to not worry about who lurks here. So not only do the big things matter in policy debates about gun legislation, but sometimes these small things do too. and sometimes, these small things can really make a difference because they are easy things for people to relate too. And if they get the small things wrong, what else have they gotten wrong?"...

@SH: I think this may have been a response to my post? I agree; I'm a Constitutional Carry advocate, but all legislature (Fed and State) is so fkd up right now, I didn't know if this bill helps more than it hurts.

@ToddV: thx for the education

@ICHV: most here also want less handgun violence ... the problem is that laws don't yield less handgun violence because it is perpetrated by, ya know, criminals and criminals don't, ya know, follow laws. If you have ideas that might actually reduce handgun violence, please share.