Posted: 3/20/2014 12:43:47 PM EDT
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Hello All,
A very close friend's daughter who is going to do her medical internship at Jackson Park Hospital in Stoney Island. I grew up in NW Indiana and have a general idea of the neighborhood and what she's getting herself into... What I would like info on is neighborhoods in the general area, that you would feel safe allowing your daughter to rent in. She will be using the CTA or Metra (I think the Metra Line is a couple blocks away) and the area should have easy access to public transportation. Middle class family so she doesn't need Gold Coast or Michigan Ave, but something reasonable, but SAFE!!! Thank you in advance ***Update*** After voicing some concerns, the other program considered is on the west side of the city at St. Anthony Hospital at 2875 W 19th Street in Chicago. Would Hyde Park still be the choice? |
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Homewood Flossmor is on the Metra Electric line, and drops off about 1/4 mile
from the hospital. That is a decent area. I am not familiar with anything decent between Homewood and downtown. Pretty much everything south and west of Homewood is fair to good depending, with some problem areas. http://metrarail.com/metra/en/home/maps_schedules/metra_system_map/me/schedule.full.html Tinley, Orland Park and Mokena are all excellent areas, also with Metra rail service on the Rock Island line. However the stops on that line are substantially further from the hospital you are looking at. That said I must express in the strongest terms possible that there is NO POSSIBLE WAY I would let my daughter travel along that route, or work in that location. I am not afraid of going to Chicago, but I'm not getting off the expressway, much less walking alone through some of those neighborhoods. |
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I believe that's in the South Shore neighborhood around Stoney Island and 75th. That is a high crime area. I wouldn't go into that area and I especially wouldn't use public transportation. Hopefully someone else will have an idea about someplace safe to live. Pretty much what Roadhawk said. It's really not the best neighborhood in the world. I have gone into that area on the way to go to the Museum of Science and Industry. If she's not going to have a car the way I'd do it is live near one of the southern suburban communities on the Metra Electric train line like Richton Park, Matteson, or Olympia Fields. She can then take a bus from 79th Street(Chatham) or 75th Street(Grand Crossing) Apartments on a brief look there range from about $600-$800 a month. The only other neighborhood near JPH that is halfway decent would be the Hyde Park but it is also not cheap. Cheapest would be $665 or so for a studio. Hyde Park is easily accessible via bus and train as well. I know of some artsy type people that have moved into the Chatham neighborhood(which is one of the closest to JPH) but it's really not an area I'd live in(or recommend anyone to live in either.) 
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Thank you guys and keep them coming. I understand about the neighborhood issue; this opportunity will allow her a very compressed instruction in emergency medicine that can't be gleaned in other environments.
The Richton Park and Matteson (I remember a mall there) options are interesting - would not have thought about those, but remember hanging out with friends there when I lived on the state line. Hyde Park was my initial thought as well. Thank you all for your time and thought - please keep them coming |
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Thank you guys and keep them coming. I understand about the neighborhood issue; this opportunity will allow her a very compressed instruction in emergency medicine that can't be gleaned in other environments. The Richton Park and Matteson (I remember a mall there) options are interesting - would not have thought about those, but remember hanging out with friends there when I lived on the state line. Hyde Park was my initial thought as well. Thank you all for your time and thought - please keep them coming The mall you are thinking of is Lincoln Mall. It USED to be a nice mall. USED is the key word. The good thing about Matteson is there are lots of stores and places to eat along US 30. It's overall a pretty decent place to live. |
, oh those days I do not miss when I was there. She will have plenty of practice, and she needs to keep her head on a swivel come warmer weather.
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It's a sketchy, crappy area. I would not let anyone I cared for take public transit to get there. I've been to the area for work and - lets just say the accelerated medical trauma training is happening in that neighborhood for a reason. Life is cheap there and people don't have much to lose.
With a few notable exceptions, the neighborhoods on the south side of Chicago are our version of Detroit. IF she's determined to attend the program, Hyde Park is going to be a safer neighborhood close to the hospital. UofC is there which means extra security presence in the neighborhood. I would recommend she have a cheap car to drive to and from work. The program director / program staff should have some recommendations for her as well. They're going to recommend Hyde Park too I'd imagine. Good luck. It's a sad, violent place. |
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St. Anthony's on 19th Street Here is the address - I'm going to end up owing you guys beer before this is all done. St. Anthony Hospital at 2875 W 19th Street in Chicago That's just another ghetto, and no place for a young woman. There are plenty of hospitals in the suburbs or the north side of Chicago that would be much safer. I would not even think about letting a loved of travel to either of those locations. |
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Hyde Park is notorious for medical staff/personnel being assaulted and/or robbed, plus it is right next to the Englewood neighborhood, which records the highest number of homicides in Chicago every year. Unfortunately, the area surrounding St. Anthony is not the best neighborhood either, but not as bad.
The biggest difference is that St. Anthony is in an area of high police presence since it one of the hospitals that services inmates from Cook County jail and courthouse. Mt. Sinai Hospital is the gun shot trauma center of much of the city. Basically, you're looking for the lesser of two evils with those choices... |
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no way in hell should you live in stony island or hyde park at all. stony island is not a place i would want to be out at night in. my dad worked down there for a couple of years.
do not do it. bad juju. travel in by the metra look further west, look around the train lines running into union station look into further west, westchester, willowbrook rent will be half of what it is in the city is there anyway she can get an internship out in the suburbs at all? |
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One of my friends lives right up the street from there, maybe 1 mile away, around Chicago and Ogden, his area isn't bad but I wouldn't go any more south than that.
Wicker Park is pretty much full of hipster types who are all around the college grad age, but its one of those up and coming areas thats very lively at night (but then again full of hipsters). It's also fairly close to where she is working. My honest advice for you and her would be try to live somewhere off the blue line (a stop is not far from the hospital at Chicago and Milwaukee if she takes Ogden) and preferably on the NW side. Anything north of the Belmont blue line stop I wouldn't worry over. My parents are right by the Addison blue line and their area is pretty nice. |
| Im kind of late to the party but I will offer my insights. It looks like you have already decided that Jackson Park won't work and I couldn't agree more. I used to work that area and had several occasions to be inside Jackson Park. I still go to work near there as my office is at 71st and South Shore Dr so I am in the area all the time. I remember once having to take a DOA out of there back in the late 90's. The background was that he was brought in by ambulance suffering from chest pain and for some reason seated in the emergency room waiting room. He didn't speak English so the staff was unable to understand him. Somehow he was forgotten and died right there. It wasn't discovered for quite a while that he had died. Another time, another DOA had to go to the morgue. This time it was a security officer assigned to the hospital. The background on him was that earlier he had been dealing with a violent mental along with other security who were trying to strap the mental patient down. At some point, the mental patient was somehow able to shove this security officer hard enough to send him flying backwards into a wall where he struck his head. He still continued to work his shift. Later that day he was dead from a head injury. And that is while already being in Jackson Park hospital. I always told my partners that if I ever got seriously injured or shot and they took me to Jackson Park, they would end up in the hospital bed right next to me with a gun shot wound. And just about 2 weeks ago at around 5:00 in the afternoon, there was a shooting right at the corner of the hospital: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-03-11/news/chi-chicago-shootings-3-shot-on-south-side-20140311_1_3-shot-jackson-park-hospital-vehicleThere has been countless shootings all within a mile in every direction of that hospital and then some. The closest train station is at 71st and Stoney but the walk from there would be very dangerous. And there is no way that the CTA can keep you safe while taking the bus. If she had a car, she might be ok but counting on any form of public transportation is a huge gamble. BTW, Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam headquarters/is only a block away form the hospital at 74th and Stoney. |
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Quoted: Hello All, A very close friend's daughter who is going to do her medical internship at Jackson Park Hospital in Stoney Island. I grew up in NW Indiana and have a general idea of the neighborhood and what she's getting herself into... What I would like info on is neighborhoods in the general area, that you would feel safe allowing your daughter to rent in. She will be using the CTA or Metra (I think the Metra Line is a couple blocks away) and the area should have easy access to public transportation. Middle class family so she doesn't need Gold Coast or Michigan Ave, but something reasonable, but SAFE!!! Thank you in advance ***Update*** After voicing some concerns, the other program considered is on the west side of the city at St. Anthony Hospital at 2875 W 19th Street in Chicago. Would Hyde Park still be the choice? Oh, I see. I actually grew up about 5-10 minutes south down California Ave. from St. Anthony Hospital. The good news is the neighborhood is better than Grand Crossing where Jackson Park Hospital is. The bad news is the area is still not a good area. It's on the edge of Little Village and Douglas Park. If your friend's daughter is looking for a place to live if she works at St Anthony's, might I suggest Bridgeport? It's not too far from the hospital and it's not a bad area. The pink line train also stops right by St. Anthony's, so she could live near Greektown which used to be skid row, but now is a pretty nice area. For her safety, I woud strongly recommend St. Anthony's over Jackson Park. |
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Quoted: no way in hell should you live in stony island or hyde park at all. stony island is not a place i would want to be out at night in. my dad worked down there for a couple of years. do not do it. bad juju. travel in by the metra look further west, look around the train lines running into union station look into further west, westchester, willowbrook rent will be half of what it is in the city is there anyway she can get an internship out in the suburbs at all? I forgot, there is a Metra station at Western Ave, which is about two blocks away from the Western Ave Pink Line station. But like others have said, I wouldn't recommend a young woman traveling alone to and through either of these areas. If she can get a reliable car to commute, I think that would be preferable. |
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Went to Univ. of Chicago about 15 years ago and occasionally drove down Stony to the "Taco Hell" or White Castle that was right by 75th, I think. Would most definitely NOT have walked south from the "enclave" of U. of C. or taken public transportation south (though did take the Metra north to the Loop frequently), and most definitely wanted to get in and out as quickly as possible with head on a swivel and one foot over the accelerator at all times.
To give you an idea, the drive up window was not your typical sliding glass door...it was a bullet proof lazy susan into which you deposited your money and they would put the food in and rotate it. That should tell you something. |
| If that are her only two choices, I'd lean towards Jackson Park, but it is a microscopic improvement. If she is really looking into her trauma rotation, there are plenty of good places that she can get as good or better training and have a better outcome in her health. |
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