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7/20/2013 9:25:23 AM EDT
Greetings from Ohio, I will be passing through your fair state around Labor day and I know there are some intense laws regarding non residents and bringing fire arms across your state lines. If it is in a locked case, inside luggage, in the trunk compartmental separated from any ammunition. is this sufficient for passing through or are there any other steps I need to take?

thanks in advance
7/20/2013 9:39:41 AM EDT
[#1]
With our new concealed carry law, non residents with a concealed carry permit from their state can keep the loaded firearm in their car.  Here is the section of the law...

(e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from  
25  transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in  
26  Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her  


1  vehicle and the non-resident:
2          (1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a  
3      firearm under federal law;
4          (2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the  
5      laws of his or her state or territory of residence; and
6          (3) is not in possession of a license under this Act.
7      If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended,  
8  he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or  
9  locked container within the vehicle in accordance with  
10  subsection (b) of Section 65 of this Act.
 
7/20/2013 10:21:01 AM EDT
[#2]
We have a tacked thread for that
7/20/2013 4:02:23 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks folks, good info to know,
7/21/2013 4:55:58 AM EDT
[#4]
I would point out that the verbage of the act specifically says "nothing in this act shall prohibit". It does not actually say that a NR is exempt from the provisions of the AUUW act.

My guess is someone will need to get arrested and fight it out in court to figure out what it means.

Handguns are completely state preempted so as long as it is a handgun you should be OK if you transport (not carry) IAW state law.

Long guns are another story. It appears to me that NR are out of luck long gun wise if there is a local HR law on it.

As I have said before, there are a lot of traps in this legislation, and I do not wish to be the test case.
7/21/2013 5:48:16 AM EDT
[#5]
Hand gun only, my CCW is valid in the state I am traveling to.
7/21/2013 8:00:50 AM EDT
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I hate to say this, but my inclination would be to leave it at home until someone else is the test case.
7/21/2013 8:23:47 AM EDT
[#7]
Hand gun only, my CCW is valid in the state I am traveling to.
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Bottom line is you are good to go...You have pass through protection for a carry pistol loaded as long as it doesn't leave the vehicle.  The law is clear.  
If you have any more concerns feel free to contact me.

Mike Rowe
IllinoisCarry.com
7/22/2013 3:01:56 PM EDT
[#8]
Thanks Mike.
7/24/2013 2:58:15 PM EDT
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Except the thread is not correct.  Things have changed in over 3 years since that thread was updated.

Does not reflect current law on carry or SBR legality.
7/24/2013 3:55:03 PM EDT
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Except the thread is not correct.  Things have changed in over 3 years since that thread was updated.

Does not reflect current law on carry or SBR legality.
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Except the thread is not correct.  Things have changed in over 3 years since that thread was updated.

Does not reflect current law on carry or SBR legality.


Yes, both of the resource threads at the top of the forum need updating.  I haven't found any way to edit the information.  I think that is because I didn't create the threads.  I have been planning on creating new threads when I have time.
7/25/2013 3:47:30 AM EDT
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I would point out that the verbage of the act specifically says "nothing in this act shall prohibit". It does not actually say that a NR is exempt from the provisions of the AUUW act. My guess is someone will need to get arrested and fight it out in court to figure out what it means.
Handguns are completely state preempted so as long as it is a handgun you should be OK if you transport (not carry) IAW state law.
Long guns are another story. It appears to me that NR are out of luck long gun wise if there is a local HR law on it.
As I have said before, there are a lot of traps in this legislation, and I do not wish to be the test case.
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I would point out that the verbage of the act specifically says "nothing in this act shall prohibit". It does not actually say that a NR is exempt from the provisions of the AUUW act. My guess is someone will need to get arrested and fight it out in court to figure out what it means.
Handguns are completely state preempted so as long as it is a handgun you should be OK if you transport (not carry) IAW state law.
Long guns are another story. It appears to me that NR are out of luck long gun wise if there is a local HR law on it.
As I have said before, there are a lot of traps in this legislation, and I do not wish to be the test case.



The CCW act also made changes to AUUW.  You have to read them together.  New section of AUUW regarding transporting a loaded handgun:

             
(A-5) the pistol, revolver, or handgun possessed
was uncased, loaded, and immediately accessible at the
time of the offense and the person possessing the
pistol, revolver, or handgun has not been issued a
currently valid license under the Firearm Concealed
Carry Act
; or


When read in conjunction with the above cited section of the CCW act the only reasonable interpretation is that a Non-Res CCW
is the "valid license" - at least for the limited purposes allowed - referred to in the newly amended AUUW.

Although I certainly agree with you that much of the language needed to be cleaned up and could be a LOT more clear.

One of the glaring mistakes is this sentence:

is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence;


This seems to clearly allow anyone who resides in a constitutional carry state to "car carry" even without a license.....
I doubt that subtlety of the law will be understood by most LEO's, but if a constitutional carry state resident read the
law he would assume (rightly IMO) that he is OK to car carry in IL.
7/25/2013 5:14:31 AM EDT
[#12]
This seems to clearly allow anyone who resides in a constitutional carry state to "car carry" even without a license.....
I doubt that subtlety of the law will be understood by most LEO's, but if a constitutional carry state resident read the
law he would assume (rightly IMO) that he is OK to car carry in IL.
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Yes
I'm not sure but, I think that might have been written for those residents in constitutional states that don't issue a license.  It would seem rather silly to allow someone from CA to carry and not someone from AZ.
My hope is that when LEO training is done, they cover such subtleties as this...but...not overly optimistic!