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5/1/2011 11:19:09 AM EDT
Idea for this month's practical rifle at the ASC:
Post Drill:
3 man team at 50+Y, multiple teams on the line. First team to sever a 1 foot section off a 4x4 post wins. What do you guys think? .308/30-06 might have to be largest caliber allowed.
[Post is 4' tall, marked at 1' from the top. If you cut below the mark, that's fine, but if you cut above the line, your team is disqualified. Depending on how many people show up, we might add more people to a firing squad and move the firing line to longer distances to make it more challenging.]





 
5/1/2011 1:42:37 PM EDT
[#1]
That sounds like fun!!
5/1/2011 3:36:01 PM EDT
[#2]
We tried that with 1x2s a long time back.  It took forever and a ton of rounds.  A 4x4 would take all day.
5/1/2011 3:45:34 PM EDT
[#3]
hmmm... if we modified it to a 2x2 or had 5 people per firing squad, would it be more feasible?
5/1/2011 4:56:12 PM EDT
[#4]
It would still take for ever if the wood was a half inch.

We could get a poster board with a weight at the bottom and try and sever that.
5/2/2011 1:46:02 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
We tried that with 1x2s a long time back.  It took forever and a ton of rounds.  A 4x4 would take all day.


I remember the 1x2 drill. It was surprising how many rounds it took. I thought the wood would splinter pretty fast, but most of the rounds just drilled very small holes. I agree that it would take forever to get through a bigger piece of wood.

5/2/2011 9:06:45 AM EDT
[#6]
As funny as it was watching my buddy use 3 magazines of .223 in order to break the 1x2 from 15 yards away, I don't know if its a drill most want to repeat.

5/2/2011 9:08:14 AM EDT
[#7]
that's why we've got to have a firing squad with 3-5 people per target
5/2/2011 9:57:00 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
that's why we've got to have a firing squad with 3-5 people per target


We used pairs last time.
5/2/2011 11:13:11 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
that's why we've got to have a firing squad with 3-5 people per target


It will take a long time with rifles. Maybe shotguns with buckshot.

5/2/2011 1:39:24 PM EDT
[#10]
Sounds like a novelty more than a practical? As I'm not versed on what the purpose of the PRC is, I may be wrong in my opinion.
5/2/2011 3:03:15 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Sounds like a novelty more than a practical? As I'm not versed on what the purpose of the PRC is, I may be wrong in my opinion.


I agree. It is a drill that requires fairly accurate shot placement, but I question the practicality of the exercise. If the goal is to cut a piece of wood in pieces, use the right tool.

5/3/2011 7:26:37 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
As funny as it was watching my buddy use 3 magazines of .223 in order to break the 1x2 from 15 yards away, I don't know if its a drill most want to repeat.




I could break it in 20 seconds, tops! ... may take 4 magazine changes though!

either way the decision plays out, I am happy you are coming up with ideas Nighthawk.
5/3/2011 6:33:56 PM EDT
[#13]
Did a similar team drill at an appleseed, but you had to shoot the black center completely out of several targets as a team in a limited time period.
5/5/2011 7:03:02 AM EDT
[#14]
By the way- does anyone coming to this PR need 2#s of Varget? (new) Have 2 #s that's never going to get used anymore sitting around.
5/5/2011 8:16:31 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sounds like a novelty more than a practical? As I'm not versed on what the purpose of the PRC is, I may be wrong in my opinion.


I agree. It is a drill that requires fairly accurate shot placement, but I question the practicality of the exercise. If the goal is to cut a piece of wood in pieces, use the right tool.



I agree, and I will be bringing my Remington 1100 with buckshot and slugs for that stage!

5/5/2011 11:41:39 AM EDT
[#16]
how much for the varget?
5/7/2011 11:38:07 AM EDT
[#17]
How about a scored/timed stage from 100yds that requires accurate hits on an IPSC target from different shooting positions. I am thinking about setting up 3 shooting positions at 100, which will require each shooter to fire from the prone, supported kneeling, and then supported kneeling from another position. (5) rounds from each position/(15) rounds total. We can add a magazine change after every (5) rounds/each shooting position to make it more interesting.

This will be completely different from anything we have done in the past (atleast since I have been attending/involved with the Practical Rifle). The only time we have really shot at 100yds during a stage was just one hit on steel to stop the clock.

5/8/2011 4:43:05 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Sounds like a novelty more than a practical? As I'm not versed on what the purpose of the PRC is, I may be wrong in my opinion.


Actually, this drill has a very practical application. It simulates a fire team breaching light cover by fire. There were many occasions on which we needed to concentrate fires on a small structure (most often it was concrete block) in order to place point suppressive fires on the bad guys.  



5/9/2011 7:16:00 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
How about a scored/timed stage from 100yds that requires accurate hits on an IPSC target from different shooting positions. I am thinking about setting up 3 shooting positions at 100, which will require each shooter to fire from the prone, supported kneeling, and then supported kneeling from another position. (5) rounds from each position/(15) rounds total. We can add a magazine change after every (5) rounds/each shooting position to make it more interesting.

This will be completely different from anything we have done in the past (atleast since I have been attending/involved with the Practical Rifle). The only time we have really shot at 100yds during a stage was just one hit on steel to stop the clock.



Yeah Nick, I'm all up for new ideas.  My main concern is time in resetting and scoring targets.  I'm open for any ideas to make a 100 yard course with more long range shots.  We are getting more and more steel, so a multi shot long range stage on steel is possible as well.

––John
5/9/2011 7:37:38 AM EDT
[#20]
I'd honestly more 200Y range time if possible- that's one of the attributes that can be found at the ASC but not very many other ranges.
5/9/2011 8:14:37 AM EDT
[#21]
I have a Steel A500 gong 6" setup I would be more than happy to bring, for some long shots!
5/9/2011 8:46:21 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
I'd honestly more 200Y range time if possible- that's one of the attributes that can be found at the ASC but not very many other ranges.


It's open 7 days a week to our members...

5/9/2011 11:57:18 AM EDT
[#23]
I think John & I worked something out for a couple of stages including a 100yd stage similar to what I posted except using steel. I will post details in the next few days....

NightHawk, I think Pecker is calling you out
5/9/2011 12:03:53 PM EDT
[#24]
yeah... I realize he's trying to goad me into joining the ASC. God knows I want to....Come Oct when the prorate is only $46, I will.

5/9/2011 3:04:33 PM EDT
[#25]
But then you miss out on shooting all summer!

I made it out to the range this past weekend and it was great! The whole 50 yard range to ourselves.
5/11/2011 8:53:01 PM EDT
[#26]
Link to new thread with the courses of fire for this months Practical Rifle: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=23&t=451640