Posted: 2/2/2010 7:52:50 PM EDT
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OK, now that the elections are over, we can end the multiple election threads. If you want to have a thread to discuss the results, then start one thread. We don't need half of the front page covered with the same threads started by different people. |
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OK, now that the elections are over, we can end the multiple election threads. If you want to have a thread to discuss the results, then start one thread. We don't need half of the front page covered with the same threads started by different people. Who are you??? 
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OK, now that the elections are over, we can end the multiple election threads. If you want to have a thread to discuss the results, then start one thread. We don't need half of the front page covered with the same threads started by different people. Who are you???
Let's get him at the bike racks when the bell rings 
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Quoted: it aint over yet, is it? Th elections are, it's just a matter of the results now. Quoted: Who are you??? I actually understood that question, there fore you aren't the real woodbutcher. Please bring him back or we will have to come and get him ourselves.  Quoted: I've been beat up by worse people before.Let's get him at the bike racks when the bell rings  |
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I wish there was, but they also have to allow 2 weeks for absentee ballots to be delivered by the mail. I have no idea how many of those are unaccounted for yet.
Even the Dems are having their issues, which is fun to watch. Hynes won't concede and wants all the ballots counted and the above mentioned absentee ballots. Also the candidates could demand recounts, which they get to pay for, thus tying up the decision even longer. I really hope Brady keeps it. I still can't believe the NRA and ISRA endorsed Dillard after he voted for mag capacity and assault weapons bans. Their board needs to go. |
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Just got an update: With 100% of precincts reporting, As of 6:09 PM, Brady is up by 406 votes. BRADY: 155,263;..............DILLARD: 154,857
I don't know if this is considered FINAL or not. Don't know if absentee ballots are included. Man!.... oh!....... Man............If this gets any tighter I'm gonna open up my KALASHNIKOV VODKA, dust off my TGI Bulgy AK-74 Truck Gun and watch RAMBO 3. OR just chill and hang out in the Dark Side awhile. There it is. I've been outed.
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If all the people who voted for Andy A could change there vote to Brady, would they? That's not a fair question considering that most people vote their conscience and some just vote who is the most likely to win so they can say they voted for the best man. Which of course isn't true of most politicians nowadays. If you would ask the question would I rather have Brady than Dillard...most definitely! But...Adam A. was an excellent candidate. I know that the Tea Party in Illinois liked Adam A. and I know many in my area pulled the lever for Adam A. The problem is as it has been in the past is that they ran 3 candidates that pulled the votes of the like's of us. Proft, Adam A. and Brady. If Adam A. and Proft weren't in it Brady would have taken it handily. But that is not how it worked. If Brady and Proft weren't in it Adam A. would have garnered those votes. That's just how it works. |
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I think you guys are understanding my statement that there were too many Perots in the race. I have nothing against any of the candidates, except Ryan and McKenna. As I stated before, I'd be fine with Dillard, Brady, Proft or Adam (I'm not going to attempt his last name).
I know there's a lot of hate for Dillard due to his respectful words for Obama and his vote for SB 1007. I don't know what motivated either of those actions. By the same token, he's the only one of the bunch who sponsored and pushed for CCW legislation in Illinois. He's also the only one that I know of that has signed on as friend of the court in McDonald vs. Chicago. While his record may not be unblemished, IMHO, he's a far better candidate than McKenna or Ryan would have been. Whoever winds up victorious in the governors primary race will, I'm confident, be good to gun owners. I think we all need to rally behind him, whoever it is. |
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If all the people who voted for Andy A could change there vote to Brady, would they? That's not a fair question considering that most people vote their conscience and some just vote who is the most likely to win so they can say they voted for the best man. Which of course isn't true of most politicians nowadays. If you would ask the question would I rather have Brady than Dillard...most definitely! But...Adam A. was an excellent candidate. I know that the Tea Party in Illinois liked Adam A. and I know many in my area pulled the lever for Adam A. The problem is as it has been in the past is that they ran 3 candidates that pulled the votes of the like's of us. Proft, Adam A. and Brady. If Adam A. and Proft weren't in it Brady would have taken it handily. But that is not how it worked. If Brady and Proft weren't in it Adam A. would have garnered those votes. That's just how it works. I'm not knocking you for voting your conscience, Andy A looked good on paper, he just struck me as a Ron Paul type candidate from the get go. Lot's of internet buzz, but most people didn't know a thing about him. Brady is still a bit of an outsider, but he has some real experience in Springfield. Plus, he's a really personable guy. I will be happy to fill in the dot for him. I've been saying for years that IL needs a pre-primary straw poll for conservatives. Pick one and run him in the primary. We have had the votes for a while to nominate someone better than JBT, we just keep splitting our votes. |
| hope now all here got a lesson in vote splitting. this aint a vote for prom queen, i tried to tell all here to look at the stats and vote as a block. those andy votes that illinois repubs cast were wasted. hopeflly brady pulls a kangaroo out his behind, i dont think him and plummer can loose.all in all, illinois future is getting brighter by the minute! |
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Quoted: For my part sure as hell won't stand by Dillard if he wins. Apart for the aforementioned anti-gun bills he's supported, IIRC he supported two tax increases last year?I think you guys are understanding my statement that there were too many Perots in the race. I have nothing against any of the candidates, except Ryan and McKenna. As I stated before, I'd be fine with Dillard, Brady, Proft or Adam (I'm not going to attempt his last name). I know there's a lot of hate for Dillard due to his respectful words for Obama and his vote for SB 1007. I don't know what motivated either of those actions. By the same token, he's the only one of the bunch who sponsored and pushed for CCW legislation in Illinois. He's also the only one that I know of that has signed on as friend of the court in McDonald vs. Chicago. While his record may not be unblemished, IMHO, he's a far better candidate than McKenna or Ryan would have been. Whoever winds up victorious in the governors primary race will, I'm confident, be good to gun owners. I think we all need to rally behind him, whoever it is. However, I am showing that Brady not only voted for the huge income tax increase that passed the Senate (but not the House) last year, but was also a co-sponsor? SB2252? I thought he was against a tax increase? |
| the best news of the day is hines just threw in the towel! quinn will never be free of the stink of the blagoid regime!!! his campaign will go on the same time his former boss is on trial, hines would have bee farther from the thieves. unless a rediculous catastropy occurs to the repub nomenee, quinn is as good as done. every minute a little brighter! |
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For my part sure as hell won't stand by Dillard if he wins. Apart for the aforementioned anti-gun bills he's supported, IIRC he supported two tax increases last year?
I think you guys are understanding my statement that there were too many Perots in the race. I have nothing against any of the candidates, except Ryan and McKenna. As I stated before, I'd be fine with Dillard, Brady, Proft or Adam (I'm not going to attempt his last name). I know there's a lot of hate for Dillard due to his respectful words for Obama and his vote for SB 1007. I don't know what motivated either of those actions. By the same token, he's the only one of the bunch who sponsored and pushed for CCW legislation in Illinois. He's also the only one that I know of that has signed on as friend of the court in McDonald vs. Chicago. While his record may not be unblemished, IMHO, he's a far better candidate than McKenna or Ryan would have been. Whoever winds up victorious in the governors primary race will, I'm confident, be good to gun owners. I think we all need to rally behind him, whoever it is. However, I am showing that Brady not only voted for the huge income tax increase that passed the Senate (but not the House) last year, but was also a co-sponsor? SB2252? I thought he was against a tax increase? if he ends up the nominee, we all should vote for him. i wont trust dillard either, and i dont think he will beat out brady. dillard may change his tune if elected, his political career in illinos will be long if he leans right. if he bags the gov seat, who does he have to kiss @$$ to then? we are well on our way to CCW as i see it. .regardless, we all will pay taxes and then die. get the dems out from behind the wheel ASAP. |
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Quoted: I wish there was, but they also have to allow 2 weeks for absentee ballots to be delivered by the mail. I have no idea how many of those are unaccounted for yet. Even the Dems are having their issues, which is fun to watch. Hynes won't concede and wants all the ballots counted and the above mentioned absentee ballots. Also the candidates could demand recounts, which they get to pay for, thus tying up the decision even longer. I really hope Brady keeps it. I still can't believe the NRA and ISRA endorsed Dillard after he voted for mag capacity and assault weapons bans. Their board needs to go. I'd heard about the mag capacity one and somebody who personally spoke to Dillard about it said he regrets it, it was a rider on a bill, he didn't read it. This bill also caught my usually pro-2a state senator out too and she regretfully voted for it too, but I did not know about the AWB vote  Tuesday morning I heard on the news that the race was tight between mckenna, ryan and dillard. At the last minute I pulled a defensive vote and voted for dillard even though I donated to adam and planned on voting for him up until that morning, kind of regret it now. My apologies. Should Brady win, I plan to make up for it and volunteering for his campaign. I'd planned on being much more active this election anyway. I'm going to do everything I can possibly do for Joe Walsh. Bean's got to go. |
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Quoted: So we're going to give an elected official a pass because he voted yes on something that he didn't even read? Thanks for the info, now I hate that RINO scum even more. Couldn't even bother to read the bill? What was his excuse for not READING the damn bill? He doesn't pay attention to Illinois Democrats who regularly try to pass gun control via shell bills and unrelated amendments?Quoted: I wish there was, but they also have to allow 2 weeks for absentee ballots to be delivered by the mail. I have no idea how many of those are unaccounted for yet. Even the Dems are having their issues, which is fun to watch. Hynes won't concede and wants all the ballots counted and the above mentioned absentee ballots. Also the candidates could demand recounts, which they get to pay for, thus tying up the decision even longer. I really hope Brady keeps it. I still can't believe the NRA and ISRA endorsed Dillard after he voted for mag capacity and assault weapons bans. Their board needs to go. I'd heard about the mag capacity one and somebody who personally spoke to Dillard about it said he regrets it, it was a rider on a bill, he didn't read it. This bill also caught my usually pro-2a state senator out too and she regretfully voted for it too, but I did not know about the AWB vote Tuesday morning I heard on the news that the race was tight between mckenna, ryan and dillard. At the last minute I pulled a defensive vote and voted for dillard even though I donated to adam and planned on voting for him up until that morning, kind of regret it now. My apologies. Should Brady win, I plan to make up for it and volunteering for his campaign. I'd planned on being much more active this election anyway. I'm going to do everything I can possibly do for Joe Walsh. Bean's got to go. IIRC Dillard was the swing vote on SB0195 (AWB from 2002-ish) leaving committee. The final vote was VERY close. |
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hope now all here got a lesson in vote splitting. this aint a vote for prom queen, i tried to tell all here to look at the stats and vote as a block. those andy votes that illinois repubs cast were wasted. hopeflly brady pulls a kangaroo out his behind, i dont think him and plummer can loose.all in all, illinois future is getting brighter by the minute! Well if we all had a crystal ball, etc... I all ready posted in the other thread if Brady gets beat by 2 it's my fault. BTW Adam was not my first choice, I was and still am a Proft fan. |
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Quoted: hope now all here got a lesson in vote splitting. this aint a vote for prom queen, i tried to tell all here to look at the stats and vote as a block. those andy votes that illinois repubs cast were wasted. hopeflly brady pulls a kangaroo out his behind, i dont think him and plummer can loose.all in all, illinois future is getting brighter by the minute! Splitting the vote isn't really the problem. People should vote for who they want in as an individual, not who a group tells them to vote for. Otherwise why even allow people to vote. By your own words we are all to blame that Dillard hasn't won, because the NRA and ISRA told us to vote for them, and we all split off from them. The real problem is that we don't have a State wide GOP committee that can field a good candidate that a majority of republicans can stand behind. Our GOP is like a moderate Democrat party. Unfortunately there is no way to easy or sure fire way to change the party, all we can do is hope that conservatives will some how try to take it over again. |
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hope now all here got a lesson in vote splitting. this aint a vote for prom queen, i tried to tell all here to look at the stats and vote as a block. those andy votes that illinois repubs cast were wasted. hopeflly brady pulls a kangaroo out his behind, i dont think him and plummer can loose.all in all, illinois future is getting brighter by the minute! Adam A. was an excellent candidate. I know that the Tea Party in Illinois liked Adam A. and I know many in my area pulled the lever for Adam A. The problem is as it has been in the past is that they ran 3 candidates that pulled the votes of the like's of us. Proft, Adam A. and Brady. If Adam A. and Proft weren't in it Brady would have taken it handily. If Brady and Proft weren't in it Adam A. would have garnered those votes. That's just how it works. There were two polls put up in this forum to see who the most popular candidate was amongst us and Adam A. won easily. So many of us voted by what our poll showed us. If all you seers of the future would have voted in the polls then we would have gone for Brady...but once again that's not how it worked out. |
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hope now all here got a lesson in vote splitting. this aint a vote for prom queen, i tried to tell all here to look at the stats and vote as a block. those andy votes that illinois repubs cast were wasted. hopeflly brady pulls a kangaroo out his behind, i dont think him and plummer can loose.all in all, illinois future is getting brighter by the minute! Splitting the vote isn't really the problem. People should vote for who they want in as an individual, not who a group tells them to vote for. Otherwise why even allow people to vote. By your own words we are all to blame that Dillard hasn't won, because the NRA and ISRA told us to vote for them, and we all split off from them. The real problem is that we don't have a State wide GOP committee that can field a good candidate that a majority of republicans can stand behind. Our GOP is like a moderate Democrat party. Unfortunately there is no way to easy or sure fire way to change the party, all we can do is hope that conservatives will some how try to take it over again. i dont follow guidelines the ISRA or NRA sets. im not trying to rile, just making a point. those andy a votes were prom queen votes.as he is a great candidate, the support across the board just was not there for him. brady's #'s and statewide support were apparent well before and on 2/2/10. a crystal ball was not needed to see him as a more well rounded choice. once again, i still think he pulled it off regardless. if andy a was not on the ballot, the subject would be moot. the vote was split. |