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4/28/2009 1:49:56 PM EDT
Went out to re-zero a couple rifles today.  I also decided to test out this new Federal LE133 00 w/Flitecontrol wad buckshot.  That stuff is impressive!!

I used my Mossberg 590

LE133- 4 1/2" grouping @25m.  Without one "flyer" the rest were under 3".
            1 1/2" hole @10m

Federal F127-00B(older Hi Power 9 pellet load)- 18 1/2" group @25m with only 6 pellets on target.
                                                                              8 1/4" group @10m with 8 pellets on target

Federal Tactical Low Recoil(9 pellets)- 14 1/2" group @25m with 8 pellets on target.
                                                               4 3/4" group @10m.  Two flyers opened up the group from 2 1/2".

I will consider my shogun as a viable tool for self defense again.


edit because it was 18 1/2 not 17 1/2
4/28/2009 2:04:22 PM EDT
[#1]
What is the difference between LE333 00 and LE127 00? I have a case of the former and had much larger patterns with my HDI Saiga. More than 3 foot across at about 25 yards.
4/28/2009 2:18:42 PM EDT
[#2]
The Flitecontrol wad I assume.  The F127 I tried was all over the place.  I can't account for the 3 missing pellets so it definitely could have been 3'.
4/28/2009 2:37:18 PM EDT
[#3]
Le127 has 9 pellets Le133 has 8. My pattern could have surrounded but not hit the target. Like when god stopped the bullets in Pulp Fiction.
4/28/2009 2:44:23 PM EDT
[#4]
I just found some info.  The LE127 also has the flite control wad.  It is the same as the civie PFC154 Vital Shok.  It's also 200 fps faster than the one I used.

Do you have a choke?
4/28/2009 2:55:41 PM EDT
[#5]
No choke. Tacticool Tromix shark brake.

4/28/2009 3:00:23 PM EDT
[#6]
Good info....do you have a purchase (where the hell can a dude get some)  link?
4/28/2009 3:12:27 PM EDT
[#7]
Hi Capt. You miss me yet? http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php/cName/12-gauge-buckshot
It sells out fast!
4/28/2009 3:28:48 PM EDT
[#8]
Was this out on the range or in the desert some where? Where do you get some of that flight control stuff?
4/28/2009 3:38:34 PM EDT
[#9]
I was at the BRPC. Buy at the link above.
4/28/2009 4:06:06 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Was this out on the range or in the desert some where? Where do you get some of that flight control stuff?


I was just out in the desert.
4/28/2009 4:07:26 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
No choke. Tacticool Tromix shark brake.
http://i44.tinypic.com/1zcer01.jpg


Oh, I remember that gun.  Is it feasible to shoot without that brake installed?
4/28/2009 4:39:01 PM EDT
[#12]
Not easy. HDI stuck it good with fire. I will need a saw, $200, more fingerprint cards, passport photos and irreplaceable time.  Do you think that brake is messing with the wad and pattern?
4/28/2009 5:30:47 PM EDT
[#13]
Can someone use a high quality shotgun like a Benelli as a control...?


hahahahahaha

FYI, our 590s were the only ones that lasted w/o issue in the catbox...

V
OUT
4/28/2009 6:32:43 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Hi Capt. You miss me yet? http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php/cName/12-gauge-buckshot
It sells out fast!


Hell yeah we miss ya!  Thanks for the link.....and I still wanna fire that shotgun some time.
4/28/2009 6:32:53 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Not easy. HDI stuck it good with fire. I will need a saw, $200, more fingerprint cards, passport photos and irreplaceable time.  Do you think that brake is messing with the wad and pattern?


I figured it was worth a try, but not for the hassle you would have to deal with.  Try other loads or just use slugs.
4/28/2009 6:34:51 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Can someone use a high quality shotgun like a Benelli as a control...?


hahahahahaha

FYI, our 590s were the only ones that lasted w/o issue in the catbox...

V
OUT


The Benelli's don't have a bayonet lug.  Deal breaker there
4/28/2009 6:39:26 PM EDT
[#17]
I need to go shooting with you animus. I got a benelli and 590 and 870.