Posted: 12/9/2006 2:15:50 PM EDT
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Any of you here members there? Just wondering...... opencarry.org/ opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum36/763.html |
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Open carry just seems like a bad idea to me. The last thing I'd want to do is draw attention to myself like that. Every place you go, you'd have to worry if someone is going to harass you. Perhaps in rural areas it's easier, but I just cannot see open carrying in a city working well. Does anyone here actually do this, and have success? |
Yes, all the time. The more you do it the less you think about it. As long as you dress nice and act like a normal person nobody even thinks about it. I wouldn't try it with a metalhead t-shirt and ripped jeans. 
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I know this is hard for some of you city folk to comprehend, but we live in a very large state. Open carry may not work well in the city, although I have done it quite a bit in both Douglas and Carson, but in the sticks it is absolutely normal. I can tell you from personal experience, that it will draw attention eventually. I had an investigator call my wife and ask her if I robbed a bank. When I faced him about it, wanting to know how he had come to this question, he said one of my neighbors had called me in as a "man with a gun". Then he asked me if it was concealed  . I suspect that if somebody saw it, it was NOT. i guess when you have no real suspects you follow any lead available.Another friend of mine was 18 and OC a ParaOrdnanceP10 in an IWB with a tank top on. CCSO TACKLED him in a parking lot, held him at gunpoint while they ran everything. Much to their great frustration, they had NOTHING to charge him with, although they did threaten to charge him for CCW when they got a ruling from the AG about the legality of his holster. I would have had no problem with this incident, if CCSO would "tackle" (pun intended) the gang problem of Carson City in the same manner. Do not allow this important RIGHT to slip away because it is difficult. When OC is gone, CCW will not be far behind. Try it out y'all. Meet some new and exciting people. Engage in heated debates with the ignorant (both citizens and LEOs). Triumph and smirck. 
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While I respect your choice to open carry, this kind of incident is why I'll never do it. I've got much better things to do than be harassed by law enforcement. While some may view it as a crusade against the anti-gun establishment, if I really want to carry, I'll spend the time to get a concealed carry permit. |
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In case any of you misinterpreted my initial comment, let me clarify. My comment regarding cluelessness on that board applied to those stating "facts" and "law" and being completely wrong about both. I have nothing against open carry, here or anywhere else. It's a personal choice. If the law allows it, and it does, knock yourselves out, but some of the people making comments on that board including self professed CCW instructors are morons. |
I disagree with you on that statement. One of the leading states in the modern CCW movement, Florida, does not permit open carry. Other shall issue states that don't allow open carry include Texas, South Carolina, and Oklahoma. I hardly see the correlation between not being allowed to carry open and losing the right to carry concealed. |
it's the stepladder theory. once they've taken this, they can move on to that. once they've got that, shit they might as well take this next thing. If we fight and show them that we are not going to put up with their liberal bullshit, we'll keep our freedom |
| I understand the way that works, I was just pointing out that many extremely gun friendly states have enacted concealed carry legislation without permitting open carry so the argument that forbidding open carry leads to the abridgement of the right to carry concealed is specious at best. |
1337, Your best bet for Nevada CCW information is right here in the NVHTF from Jim Mayhugh and/or myself. Although neither one of us are attorneys, between us you should be able to obtain accurate answers to your firearms questions. Although we own separate training schools, we have both been teaching CCW courses in Las Vegas, for more than 10 years. Hope this helps. Be Safe. Joe |
Hi Joe, Thanks for piping in. I've done a pretty good job of dissecting the NRS for myself after getting my CFP some time ago. I've also got a finely honed bullshit detector and it went haywire on that other site...not here mind you. I've read good things about both you and Jim and appreciate your offer of help; I'll be sure to look you guys up if needed :) |
I agree that there is no hard evidence to support the claim I have made. I believe that once they tell us that we can't carry open, they'll take the next "logical" step and require us to provide a reason to carry at all, then before too long we'll have become boiled frog, with no carry options. By not ever using the open carry option, we give them the ability to say it's antiquated, and therefore useless. I understand that they are already going to say that we have CCW, so nobody needs open carry, but there are time frames (like 18-21 year olds, new gun owners, etc) where that is not realistic and 120 days could mean your life! |
That's the only point I was trying to make. |
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You ever take a die hard anti-gunner out to the range? Notice how after that first magazine is emptied, their opinions on guns dramatically change? I would imagine Sheeple constantly seeing guns on peoples' hips would probably do more to hurt the lawful carrying of firearms than help it, because these folks have not made that first step to break down their preconceived notions about guns. These folks are conditioned to believe that guns can kill all by themselves! Seeing folks carrying guns in stores, malls, restaurants, etc. may be just the type of activity that gets Sheeple to call their representatives...and to force controlling legislation into the law books. I'm not sure if it's accurate to draw an anology to open carry and smoking, but it's the in-your-face behavior that probably contributed to 4 and 5. (That, and probably a strong casino lobby). People don't like it, people constantly see it...and ultimately people did their best to get rid of it. |
It's not. When the pistols come out of the holster and I have to deal with gun smoke and hot lead in the air, then the analogy is complete.  You do have a point in that there is some conditioning with the masses involved, and we need to keep in mind that the masses are coming from CA. Soccer Moms are very much of the "out of sight, out of mind" crowd. You'll never convince them other than to put a gun in their hand and have them pull the trigger. (Hey! This is fun!) |