Posted: 7/26/2006 6:53:11 PM EDT
| I bought another Glock with the same specs as the one on my CCW. Do I need to do anything to carry this new weapon ? I was told that I needed to go down to the Detail and add it to my permit. What's the real deal ? |
IM Ishoot2live and he can give you details. You need to qualify with the gun before you can add it and as soon as Ishoot has another class he will give you info on what you need to do. |
OOPS! posted under hubby's name again.. |
It was my understanding that all that is required on your CCW is 1) Make 2) Model and 3) Caliber. If you go qualify with your Glock 17 with S/N = 0001, and then go out and buy another Glock 17 with S/N = 0002, I think you can carry both Glocks on the same permit because they are the same Make, Model, and Caliber. But if you already have your Glock 17 on the CCW, and go out and buy a Glock 36, you must go requalify with this new weapon configuration because it is a different Model and Caliber. I actually totally agree with this rule, as all Glocks are NOT made equal. The Glock 36 with its subcompact, slimline frame, and .45ACP load shoots totally different than its slightly bigger (wider) brother the Glock 30, subcompact .45ACP. If you were to go qualify with the G30, and then assume that you could handle the G36 the same way, you'd be in for a surprise. Both are handleable, but they handle totally differently. I understood the point of the qualification on the CCW is to ensure that you are proficient with a particular weapon configuration, which is why they have everything but the S/N (and that fact that this would be a de facto gun registration  ).Just my $(1/50) of understanding of the law. |
You may be right..I didn't think about it that way. |
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Porcher, Here's the "Real Deal:" Under Nevada Revised Statutes (NRS) you must demonstrate proficiency with each and every firearm that is to be listed on your CCW permit. It has abosoluetly nothing to do with the "type" or "configuration" of a particular handgun, it has to do with the serial number and proficiency. Example: If you have already qualified with one type of make and model of firearm and it is listed on your CCW permit and you sell or lose that particular firearm, you do not have to remove the gun from your permit if you think there is a chance that you might get the same make and model of gun in the future. Example: Your Glock 19 gets stolen in a burglary and it takes several months to collect the insurance. If you purchase another G19 when you collect on the insurance you will have to qualify with the new gun and file your range certification (signed by an approved instructor) with Metro CCW if you wish to legally carry that new gun. Some of my students have been told prior to taking my CCW course that if they have a firearm listed on their CCW permit and they no longer have that firearm and they keep it on their permit and then at a later date they get the SAME exact type of firearm they do not have to qualify, because the gun is already listed and no one will know the difference. Yea, Right. Well, in lieu of the fact that NRS does not require serial numbers on the actual CCW permit (it is however required for the CCW application/gun addition certificate) the serial number for each handgun that has ever been listed on the permit is still kept in a data base. If an individual is confronted by a police officer and the serial number on the gun he is carrying is not the same number that is listed in the database, he can be arrested and charged with a Category C felony. My advice to you is to get with myself or Jim Mayhugh and get squared away. Hope this helps. Joe |
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Agreed, kinda anal; but THEM'S THE LAWS HERE. Opposite end - I've resided in states where a CFP (per Jim) allows for the carry of ANY pistol, NOTHING "listed". And no re-qualifying when renewing! (them's the laws THERE) Oh, well... (note - might want to check out the thread being hotly debated on passage of a federal law mandating a national reciprocity agreement (God help us!) over at www.thehighroad.org) |
Crap! I guess my $0.02 isn't worth squat! Thanks for the clarification, Joe; I was working under the wrong principles. So I'm correct that our CCW is a state-wide de facto gun registration?!?!?!?! Bastards! Or ......................... is what you said only true in Clark County because of the Blue-Card registration? The Blue-Card must match your CCW? (Hope upon hope ...!) I'm just having a hard time fathoming that the Serial Number is connected to the CCW. Especially since they never ask you for the S/N of the firearms on the permit! |
Ok..maybe I'm wrong but if you register a firearm you have to provide the serial number for the blue card so then if you have a CCW for that same gun then the number would already be in the database..right? or am I wrong. Do they connect the registration of a firearm to the permit holder's CCW? |
We don't have Blue Cards in the North.  I think this may be the cause of all our confusion in this conversation. I think you guys in Clark County have it exactly the way Joe spells it out. But I don't believe the rest of the state has any connection between the S/N of any firearm and their CCW, and the rest of us have it the way I spelled it out. 
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Gryph, The statute doesn't require a serial number on the application, but in Clark County we have to list the serial number for each firearm to be listed on the permit. This is because Clark County requires handgun registration (i.e. the dreaded BLUE Card). Exerpt from NRS 202.3657: 6. An application submitted pursuant to this section must be completed and signed under oath by the applicant. The applicant’s signature must be witnessed by an employee of the sheriff or notarized by a notary public. The application must include: (a) The name, address, place and date of birth, social security number, occupation and employer of the applicant and any other names used by the applicant; (b) A complete set of the applicant’s fingerprints taken by the sheriff or his agent; (c) A front-view colored photograph of the applicant taken by the sheriff or his agent; (d) If the applicant is a resident of this State, the driver’s license number or identification card number of the applicant issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles; (e) If the applicant is not a resident of this State, the driver’s license number or identification card number of the applicant issued by another state or jurisdiction; (f) The make, model and caliber of each firearm to which the application pertains; (g) A nonrefundable fee in the amount necessary to obtain the report required pursuant to subsection 1 of NRS 202.366; and (h) A nonrefundable fee set by the sheriff not to exceed $60. (Added to NRS by 1995, 2721; A 1997, 1175; 2001, 612, 618, 2579; 2003, 8, 11) |
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Hey Porcher, let's be fair. All that "wrong" information I gave is only "wrong" if you're in Clark County. Everything I said is 100% accurate for the REST of the state. Let's not generalize too much here, eh? 
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Misunderstandings sometimes happen when members respond to other members in the same forum and they are in different parts of the state. Laws often vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, therefore causing confusion. |
However, that should NOT be used as justification to split the NVHTF into North and South Boards!  I just don't know what I would do without all the Ding-Dong and Snack-Bar jokes  We just need to take care not to overgeneralize (ahem, you guys in the South) when talking about what we Nevadans can and cannot do throughout the state
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Sorry guys..there are so many of us that we forget where everyone is at..no harm no foul
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I think that's an EXCELLENT idea! I remember a thread where some member was compiling ARFcom members by county throughout the whole US. They event had a little map that was color-coded by ARFcom member population density (and obviously waaaaaay too much time on their hands). This would be great! |
I did not direct that at you. I got the wrong information from a gunshop commando. |
I say we abolish all of Clark County's Gun Laws and get in line with the rest of the state. It's such bullshit that we have diferent laws in the north and in the south. We need to take back Clark County and kick out the liberals. I know it's a long shot, but I think it's worth it.  Thanks for listening.
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Porch, Unfortunately, when Nevada became a preemptive state, some laws that were already on the books were "grandfathered in." The Clark County Blue Card and the Boulder City, and North Las Vegas, open gun, and the gun in vehicle laws were among them. ETA: The only way to change those laws would be on the local level, or actually changing the preemptive statute. Either one (or both) could present a very slippery slope. |
Amen. 
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