Posted: 3/19/2013 2:08:48 AM EDT
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Never thought to much about the games but...
A course I took last year, the instructor recommended IPSC and/or IDPA as a supplement to training. Any IPSC shooters here go to Schultz or Oconomowok for matches? What would I expect as a new shooter from either club? I'm leaning on Schultz's because it is closer to home. I would appreciate any feedback from match participants. Thanks. |
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Lots of great info on here for Wisconsin and there is a forum as well. http://wisconsinshooters.com/joomla16/
I've never shot at those clubs but the general process is pretty much the same anyplace. Bring gun, a few mags, and a mag holder or use your pockets. Show up and tell the person signing in you are a new shooter. They will usually have a new shooter briefing or direct you to an experienced shooter. Gun stays in your bag/case until they show you or tell you where it's safe to holster up. Do not handle gun or put it in holster in the parking lot unless you know for sure that is allowed. Never load gun or insert a mag until it's your turn to run the stage and then only once directed to do so by the RO. Other than that, just read the rules for whichever type of shooting. IDPA is very rule heavy. Don't guy any other gear or equipment until you have shot a couple matches. |
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I am a member at Oconomowoc and help set up the IPSC matches once a year there. I have also shot at Schultz. I can get you in touch with guy who organizes the matches in Oconomowoc if you would like. He usually takes the new shooters and shows them the ropes.
If you would rather just show up that day and shoot, feel free, but I recommend letting the people know at sign in that you are a new shooter. They will try to squad you with a good RO to help you out. Come with a good OWB holster, solid belt, 3-4 belt mag holsters, mags and ammo. (usually 150-200 rounds is plenty) Eye and ear pro, duh. We run a cold range and the gun always stays in the holster until you are ready to shoot. There are designated safe zones where you can put on your gun...no ammo allowed. If you have any questions, just ask. We typically shoot the 3rd Sunday of the month. This past weekend had a good number of new shooters. |
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Safety and following directions isn't really an issue for me.
I carry eyes and ear in my range bag always. I'm not too worried about that. As far as gear goes, I'll be running my EDC. Raven Concealment holster worn OWB, double mag carrier also worn OWB. I got a good reliable pistol and plenty of mags. So the consensus thus far is just show up and tell the person collecting the monies that I am new. That's it? Oh yeah... What is a NISA? |
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Yep, Just show up you will be fine.
Pay attention to what WIDeerHunter posted above. NISA USPSA |
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Safety and following directions isn't really an issue for me. I carry eyes and ear in my range bag always. I'm not too worried about that. As far as gear goes, I'll be running my EDC. Raven Concealment holster worn OWB, double mag carrier also worn OWB. I got a good reliable pistol and plenty of mags. So the consensus thus far is just show up and tell the person collecting the monies that I am new. That's it? Oh yeah... What is a NISA? I don't know what your carry gun is, but, USPSA stages can be up to 32 rounds, IF you don't take any extra shots. Most guys that shoot "limited" and "open" divisions, don't go in with less than 4 mags.Limited guns usually hold 20-22 rounds, whereas an "open" shooter is allowed larger mags that will hold as many as 32 rounds. |
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I don't know what your carry gun is, but, USPSA stages can be up to 32 rounds, IF you don't take any extra shots. Most guys that shoot "limited" and "open" divisions, don't go in with less than 4 mags.Limited guns usually hold 20-22 rounds, whereas an "open" shooter is allowed larger mags that will hold as many as 32 rounds. I would be running G17 mags. If I run out of rounds after shooting 51 rounds... Well . 
Just to clarify here. I don't care much about my points, score, or competition in general. This to supplement defensive pistol skills for me. My biggest competitor would be myself. |
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If you don't care about your score then just have a good time. Most shooters will shoot the course of fire as a game and focus on speed and . There is no problem shooting the course 'tactically' by using cover and going slower.
I missed the last OSC match because I have no ammo. |
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I don't know what your carry gun is, but, USPSA stages can be up to 32 rounds, IF you don't take any extra shots. Most guys that shoot "limited" and "open" divisions, don't go in with less than 4 mags.Limited guns usually hold 20-22 rounds, whereas an "open" shooter is allowed larger mags that will hold as many as 32 rounds. I would be running G17 mags. If I run out of rounds after shooting 51 rounds... Well .
Just to clarify here. I don't care much about my points, score, or competition in general. This to supplement defensive pistol skills for me. That's why I started too, but, it is more addictive than crack. If you're going to shoot your first match, ask around for some help. MOST of the guys will be happy to try to help you out. All USPSA and IDPA matches I've ever been to are "cold" ranges. If you come in with a "hot" carry gun, there should be a place to clear it. If in doubt, ask around for somebody that is a range officer. After your gun is clear, and holstered, you can't handle it anywhere, except at a "safe" area, where no ammo is allowed, or, under the direction of a range officer. When it is your turn to shoot, you will be called to the starting position, and the range officer will tell you to "make ready". That is when you load your gun, and reholster, unless the stage requires you start empty, or, have your gun staged, somewhere besides your holster. There is what is called the 180 rule, which means if your muzzle is pointed more than 180 degrees from the target, you will be done. The easist way to make sure you aren't breaking the 180 rule is to always keep your gun pointed at a target, even if you can't actually see the target, because it is behind a wall, if you always are pointed towards the next target, you should be good. Also, whenever you aren't activily engaging a target, your finger must be off the trigger. Sometimes you have to move several yards to your next shooting position. Just point your gun torwards it, and keep your finger out of the trigger guard, and you should be ok. Take your time, use your sights, get your hits, and have fun! My biggest competitor would be myself. |
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If you don't care about your score then just have a good time. Most shooters will shoot the course of fire as a game and focus on speed and . There is no problem shooting the course 'tactically' by using cover and going slower. I missed the last OSC match because I have no ammo. Sorry to hear you couldn't shoot because of ammo! 
I didn't go, because my wife lost her job, and it looks like our outgo exceeds our income. 
But, if it would have been 50-60 degrees out, I'd have probably went anyway. 
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That's why I started too, but, it is more addictive than crack. If you're going to shoot your first match, ask around for some help. MOST of the guys will be happy to try to help you out. All USPSA and IDPA matches I've ever been to are "cold" ranges. If you come in with a "hot" carry gun, there should be a place to clear it. If in doubt, ask around for somebody that is a range officer. After your gun is clear, and holstered, you can't handle it anywhere, except at a "safe" area, where no ammo is allowed, or, under the direction of a range officer. When it is your turn to shoot, you will be called to the starting position, and the range officer will tell you to "make ready". That is when you load your gun, and reholster, unless the stage requires you start empty, or, have your gun staged, somewhere besides your holster. There is what is called the 180 rule, which means if your muzzle is pointed more than 180 degrees from the target, you will be done. The easist way to make sure you aren't breaking the 180 rule is to always keep your gun pointed at a target, even if you can't actually see the target, because it is behind a wall, if you always are pointed towards the next target, you should be good. Also, whenever you aren't activily engaging a target, your finger must be off the trigger. Sometimes you have to move several yards to your next shooting position. Just point your gun torwards it, and keep your finger out of the trigger guard, and you should be ok. Take your time, use your sights, get your hits, and have fun! This is a very helpful post. Thank you. My finger is always out of the guard unless I have a sight picture. Same with the carbine, except I follow that rule with the safety also. |
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That's why I started too, but, it is more addictive than crack. If you're going to shoot your first match, ask around for some help. MOST of the guys will be happy to try to help you out. All USPSA and IDPA matches I've ever been to are "cold" ranges. If you come in with a "hot" carry gun, there should be a place to clear it. If in doubt, ask around for somebody that is a range officer. After your gun is clear, and holstered, you can't handle it anywhere, except at a "safe" area, where no ammo is allowed, or, under the direction of a range officer. When it is your turn to shoot, you will be called to the starting position, and the range officer will tell you to "make ready". That is when you load your gun, and reholster, unless the stage requires you start empty, or, have your gun staged, somewhere besides your holster. There is what is called the 180 rule, which means if your muzzle is pointed more than 180 degrees from the target, you will be done. The easist way to make sure you aren't breaking the 180 rule is to always keep your gun pointed at a target, even if you can't actually see the target, because it is behind a wall, if you always are pointed towards the next target, you should be good. Also, whenever you aren't activily engaging a target, your finger must be off the trigger. Sometimes you have to move several yards to your next shooting position. Just point your gun torwards it, and keep your finger out of the trigger guard, and you should be ok. Take your time, use your sights, get your hits, and have fun! This is a very helpful post. Thank you. My finger is always out of the guard unless I have a sight picture. Same with the carbine, except I follow that rule with the safety also. You're welcome! Addicts always try to get others "hooked"
I may, or may not shoot at Schultz's this weekend. My wife lost her job a couple of weeks ago, and now our outgo exceeds our income, but, a guy has to get out and have some fun, regardless, and hope for the best. |
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"Slow is smooth, smooth is fast." Yeah, I found that out at the TAPS class last October. McNamara's reloads on the carbine aren't all flashy like some of the other guys. But holy man are they smooth and fast! Timers really push me. It's more of that outcome based training vs. performance based training. I need to remain fast getting to and out of the holster, and slow it down when the sights get on target. I have a really bad tendency to meet Señor Snatcho when I rush things. Also, we ran a drill called the scrambler. The drill was laid out for us to think "tactically" about the targets and how to engage them following a specific set of rules. No one aced this drill, but I took a lot away from it. These are just a couple of points I'm hoping the IPSC can improve. When I find myself thinking about how to better "game" a stage, or performing some the admin type things like locking the slide back when finished shooting a drill at my home range, I'm walking away from the games. |
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I was at that rainy TAPS class last fall.
IPSC is what you make it. I went in for the first few years for fun and ran a stock Glock. I told myself I did not want to get competitive and keep it fun. Then I joined IPSC so I could track scores and track my progression. I have added a few items to my pistol to help me shoot better, faster. Is what I am doing on the weekends a game? Yes. Am I having fun? Yes. Am I thinking "tactically" while doing this? No. Does that change the fact that I am shooting, moving, and thinking under stress? I don't know of anywhere else, short of a tactical class where one can do this. I feel it has helped my shooting improve over the years immensely. YMMV |
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I was at that rainy TAPS class last fall. Embrace the suck! IPSC is what you make it. I went in for the first few years for fun and ran a stock Glock. That's almost verbatim what I've been told. I'll be running stock sans the sights and the Vickers upgrades. I told myself I did not want to get competitive and keep it fun. Then I joined IPSC so I could track scores and track my progression. I have added a few items to my pistol to help me shoot better, faster. Is what I am doing on the weekends a game? Yes. Am I having fun? Yes. Am I thinking "tactically" while doing this? No. I will still have fun. But I wager we are looking to get different things out of IPSC. (Aside from the obvious improvements in the fundamentals.) Does that change the fact that I am shooting, moving, and thinking under stress? I don't know of anywhere else, short of a tactical class where one can do this. Exactly. I feel it has helped my shooting improve over the years immensely. YMMV Replies in red. |
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FYI: If anyone was planning to go shoot the match at Schultz's tomorrow, it has been cancelled, due to unsafe range conditions. (Ice/snow)  I'm sure Schultz will alternately be a skating rink and a mud pit for the next week or two. And the construction equipment driving in and out to raise the berms won't make things any better either. 
Once that's better, just in time for 'skeeter season. I wonder if there's a way I can fabricate "DEET Grenades" in 26.5mm for my RV85. 
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What's the word in the OSC match? Typically the 3rd Sunday of the month. Check the calendar below. After your first match, you will be put on the email list. http://www.oscinc.org/ipsc.html OSC does have a short (3 mins) rifle and pistol shoot this morning. Typically a long wait for little shooting. Not IPSC. I do enjoy it when I have time, but I live pretty close. |
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What's the word in the OSC match? Typically the 3rd Sunday of the month. Check the calendar below. After your first match, you will be put on the email list. http://www.oscinc.org/ipsc.html OSC does have a short (3 mins) rifle and pistol shoot this morning. Typically a long wait for little shooting. Not IPSC. I do enjoy it when I have time, but I live pretty close. I have never received an email from them. I only made one match there last year. Set up once so my end of year hours were very short. |