Posted: 1/22/2013 8:09:04 AM EDT
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“Are you an unlawfull user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?” With medical marijuana being "State legal" in some states, but illegal Federally are medical users banded from owning firearms? Just asking. |
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“Are you an unlawfull user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?” With medical marijuana being "State legal" in some states, but illegal Federally are medical users banded from owning firearms? Just asking. If you've got a prescription, it's not unlawful. (not just talking about marijuana, but other narcotic drugs too). |
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“Are you an unlawfull user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?” With medical marijuana being "State legal" in some states, but illegal Federally are medical users banded from owning firearms? Just asking. If you've got a prescription, it's not unlawful. (not just talking about marijuana, but other narcotic drugs too). I asked my Dr. about this when I was worried about being drug tested at work in effort to eliminate me, he said he would provide me documentation required to prove I was lawfully possessing and consuming the narcotic in question. |
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“Are you an unlawfull user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?” With medical marijuana being "State legal" in some states, but illegal Federally are medical users banded from owning firearms? Just asking. If you've got a prescription, it's not unlawful. (not just talking about marijuana, but other narcotic drugs too). But isn't it a federal forum and users although state legal its still breaking federal law? |
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“Are you an unlawfull user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?” With medical marijuana being "State legal" in some states, but illegal Federally are medical users banded from owning firearms? Just asking. If you've got a prescription, it's not unlawful. (not just talking about marijuana, but other narcotic drugs too). ATF says it prohibits you from possessing firearms with no exceptions due to marijuana being a Schedule I drug. A Schedule I drug is defined as: 1.The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse. 2.The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States. 3.There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision. http://www.nssf.org/share/PDF/ATFOpenLetter092111.pdf I recall reading in another forum that if you were convicted of DWI or marijuana possession, even if it is not criminal (as in a municipal ticket), you are prohibited from possessing guns for 1 year after conviction or until you complete drug/alcohol treatment, whichever is longer. I'm not sure where the arbitrary 1 year comes from, but I got he idea that the poster was either a Federal Prosecutor or worked in the US Attorney's office. I'll try to find the thread on that. I think it was on Subguns. EDIT: Here is the thread I was talking about. http://www.subguns.com/boards/mgmsgarchive.cgi?read=788907 |
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“Are you an unlawfull user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?” With medical marijuana being "State legal" in some states, but illegal Federally are medical users banded from owning firearms? Just asking. If you've got a prescription, it's not unlawful. (not just talking about marijuana, but other narcotic drugs too). ATF says it prohibits you from possessing firearms with no exceptions due to marijuana being a Schedule I drug. A Schedule I drug is defined as: 1.The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse. 2.The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States. 3.There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision. http://www.nssf.org/share/PDF/ATFOpenLetter092111.pdf I recall reading in another forum that if you were convicted of DWI or marijuana possession, even if it is not criminal (as in a municipal ticket), you are prohibited from possessing guns for 1 year after conviction or until you complete drug/alcohol treatment, whichever is longer. I'm not sure where the arbitrary 1 year comes from, but I got he idea that the poster was either a Federal Prosecutor or worked in the US Attorney's office. I'll try to find the thread on that. I think it was on Subguns. EDIT: Here is the thread I was talking about. http://www.subguns.com/boards/mgmsgarchive.cgi?read=788907 I'm not up to date on drug laws, specifically pertaining to what legal (if any) uses there are for marijuana. I do know that years ago after I suffered a work-related back injury, I was prescribed a pain-killer for daily use for about 6 months. It was 28 years ago, so I don't remember exactly what it was (it was a capsule and I think it had codeine in it... it was strong stuff and it worked). After about 6 weeks I stopped taking it except right before bedtime, as - #1) I couldn't afford it - #2) I no longer felt I needed it, and it prevented me (legally) from driving, and I didn't want to get "hooked". Using it as my doctor prescribed did not prohibit me from owning, possessing, or buying firearms for those 6 months, because I was using it legally, not "unlawful". Taking that same drug without a prescription certainly would be a prohibiting factor. That's all I was trying to say. |
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“Are you an unlawfull user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?” With medical marijuana being "State legal" in some states, but illegal Federally are medical users banded from owning firearms? Just asking. If you've got a prescription, it's not unlawful. (not just talking about marijuana, but other narcotic drugs too). ATF says it prohibits you from possessing firearms with no exceptions due to marijuana being a Schedule I drug. A Schedule I drug is defined as: 1.The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse. 2.The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States. 3.There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision. http://www.nssf.org/share/PDF/ATFOpenLetter092111.pdf I recall reading in another forum that if you were convicted of DWI or marijuana possession, even if it is not criminal (as in a municipal ticket), you are prohibited from possessing guns for 1 year after conviction or until you complete drug/alcohol treatment, whichever is longer. I'm not sure where the arbitrary 1 year comes from, but I got he idea that the poster was either a Federal Prosecutor or worked in the US Attorney's office. I'll try to find the thread on that. I think it was on Subguns. EDIT: Here is the thread I was talking about. http://www.subguns.com/boards/mgmsgarchive.cgi?read=788907 I'm not up to date on drug laws, specifically pertaining to what legal (if any) uses there are for marijuana. I do know that years ago after I suffered a work-related back injury, I was prescribed a pain-killer for daily use for about 6 months. It was 28 years ago, so I don't remember exactly what it was (it was a capsule and I think it had codeine in it... it was strong stuff and it worked). After about 6 weeks I stopped taking it except right before bedtime, as - #1) I couldn't afford it - #2) I no longer felt I needed it, and it prevented me (legally) from driving, and I didn't want to get "hooked". Using it as my doctor prescribed did not prohibit me from owning, possessing, or buying firearms for those 6 months, because I was using it legally, not "unlawful". Taking that same drug without a prescription certainly would be a prohibiting factor. That's all I was trying to say. I guess what I was trying to say was about the prohibition based on Schedule I drugs, which would also include LSD, heroin, meth, etc. Coincidentally enough, the USSC rejected a bid to reclassify marijuana out of Schedule I status. I don't buy the part about alcohol though. Although DWI is an unlawful use of alcohol, alcohol is still a lawful substance that can be acquired and possessed without a prescription. Just because you get a DWI does not mean your addicted to it. It could be a poor lack of judgement. Hell, if they want to work on the addicted angle, all ATF would have to do is take video outside of a bar at closing time and if they film the same person stumbling out of the bar several times, declare them to be "addicted to alcohol". http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr/55254887/80530731/Court_rejects_bid_to_have_marijuana_reclassified |
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Just because you get a DWI does not mean your addicted to it. It could be a poor lack of judgement. Hell, if they want to work on the addicted angle, all ATF would have to do is take video outside of a bar at closing time and if they film the same person stumbling out of the bar several times, declare them to be "addicted to alcohol". Don't give them any ideas. This is an area where I don't think pro-gunners are paying enough attention. One of King Barack's 23 exec actions was something about the AG having "some" authority to "expand" the list of Prohibited Persons. That's scary. What if at some future point the AG decides NRA members or all military vets are "domestic terror threats".  The libs are already grumbling about people on a "no-fly" list not being PP. Hell, I know people who have been mistakenly put on that list by error, and it's a legal nightmare to get off it, even if you can.
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“Are you an unlawfull user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?” With medical marijuana being "State legal" in some states, but illegal Federally are medical users banded from owning firearms? Just asking. IMHO, either you're smoking weed or you are not. If you are you'd better be fully prepared to defend yourself in a court of law if the Shit Goes Through The Fan (WI, Fed, International, or whatever). I fly a $50M+ airplane around the world semi-regularly and, believe it or not, am not a part of an active random drug testing program. In the (unlikely) event I auger one in landing in BFE guess what's going to be the first thing they test for? I wonder how they'd phrase the front-page headline of USA Today? I'd argue the same would hold true for a firearm owner (especially in today's climate) times 10. Legal does not necessarily = smart. In closing, I think Federal Law will trump All Others. |