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3/18/2012 5:43:40 PM EDT
Sacrilege to not use charcoal, I know, but I'm all about easy.  

What would cause my flame to be "low" even with a new tank?  On "high" it works fair (not great like it used to), and on low it's snuffed out by a gentle breeze.  I need to replace something?  Grill's only a little over a year old...
3/18/2012 5:49:16 PM EDT
[#1]
Your regulator unit maybe screwy.  Have you tried to disconnect/reconnect the tank?  Mine would sometimes burn lower than I thought it should and redoing the tank connection would solve it for the time being.  I ended up calling weber and getting a new regulator for no charge.
3/18/2012 5:50:42 PM EDT
[#2]
Vapor lock.  Unhook propane tank.  Open all burner valves.  Reconnect propane.
Should reset gas regulator.
3/18/2012 6:00:19 PM EDT
[#3]
I thought the first tank was probably low, so unhooked the old (actually partially-full) tank, and replaced it with a full tank...that didn't help, but should have taken care of the regulator "reset", right?

3/18/2012 6:06:10 PM EDT
[#4]
No.  After unhooking propane, open all burner valves and leave open for a little bit.  Close burner vales and reconnect propane.
3/18/2012 6:08:57 PM EDT
[#5]
OK, I'll try that.  
3/18/2012 9:08:17 PM EDT
[#6]
I've actually got a tool (somewhere) that resets the OPD valve in the tank.  Sometimes it can make a difference, as the OPD valve will actuate without an overpressure situation and severely limit pre-regulated flow.  Edit: Especially if the tanks have been tipped/knocked over.

After that, I'd be checking to make sure you don't have an obstructed orifice somewhere.
3/19/2012 2:44:32 AM EDT
[#7]
As long as you are working on the grill, think about cleaning your burners as well. Jab a piece of wire or something in all the holes, a air compressor works for this as well.


Oh and since you are burning gas I do have to say............ get a charcoal grill and you won't have these types of problems.
3/19/2012 5:48:14 AM EDT
[#8]
Have you checked to see if there's any leaks at your tank fitting, allowing some but not all of the gas to escape? I've been having the same problem. Either low pressure at the burners or no pressure. The propane was leaking at the tank valve connection. You can check for leaks by spraying a mixture of dish soap & water on the fittings. If it bubbles, it's leaking.

I talked to the guy at the place I get my  propane  tanks filled. He said my tanks likely need new rubber washers in the valves. They wear out. Without a tight seal, there's much less gas presure getting to the regulator. Next time I bring them in for a refill, they'll put new washers in the valve.

I temporarily fixed my problem by using an adaptor that I had, that fit between my grill  hose and the "old" type valve. The side that the grill hose goes on is the same type fitting that's on the OPD valves (the big, outside coarse threads of the OPD valve that the black coupling screws onto, by hand). The adaptor's rubber washer must be good, as it seals tightly (no leaks). The tank side of this fitting fits inside the OPD valves inner (LH) threads, requires an 1 1/8" open end wrench, and it has it's own O-ring for a tight seal.
3/19/2012 6:18:42 PM EDT
[#9]
Let me know what you find out Glenn. I have one at home doing the same thing.

Now, before my charcoal buddies throw a nut, it IS nice to have a backup, to my backup, to my backup...one more... to my backup.
 
3/19/2012 6:21:16 PM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:

Now, before my charcoal buddies throw a nut, it IS nice to have a backup, to my backup, to my backup...one more... to my backup.  


I like charcoal, but if I'm just doings some brats or something quick the gas sure is convenient.



 
3/20/2012 3:28:30 PM EDT
[#11]
Well, I disconnected the tank and shut off the regulator.  I brushed out the orifices with a wire brush.  I reconnected the tank, turned on the tank, and then turned on the gas flow...and I'm not sure the flames were any larger.  Didn't get up to 400 degrees, anyway, topping out a little over 200.  So I'm not sure it worked...will try again in the next few days.
3/20/2012 3:39:31 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:

After that, I'd be checking to make sure you don't have an obstructed orifice somewhere.


This is about propane tanks, not sure Glenn wants to share that with us

3/20/2012 4:07:15 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Well, I disconnected the tank and shut off the regulator.  I brushed out the orifices with a wire brush.  I reconnected the tank, turned on the tank, and then turned on the gas flow...and I'm not sure the flames were any larger.  Didn't get up to 400 degrees, anyway, topping out a little over 200.  So I'm not sure it worked...will try again in the next few days.


Mine was doing the same thing. I too switched out the tank for a new one; same issue.

Since neither burners were working, I started at the tank and checked the connection and to make sure it was free of dirt.

Then I followed the line to the burners checking for any dirt and blowing it clear with the air compressor.

She works fine now. There must have a little dirt that somehow got in the lines and clogged her up.

3/20/2012 4:46:47 PM EDT
[#14]
It's those GD spiders in the venturi tube.



I blame Spike's Tactical...









3/21/2012 4:51:04 PM EDT
[#15]
What kind of spider builds webs outside in the winter?
3/21/2012 5:32:05 PM EDT
[#16]
A very cold spider.
 
3/21/2012 6:03:48 PM EDT
[#17]




Quoted:

What kind of spider builds webs outside in the winter?










3/21/2012 6:25:11 PM EDT
[#18]
Thanks for this thread.  Disconnecting the regulator and opening the valves fixed mine.
3/21/2012 8:04:11 PM EDT
[#19]
I have started to have this very problem lately. Only with the newly exchanged tank. (I don't normally exchange I have mine filled, simply because I don't know what tank I am getting and also you don't really know how "full " the tanks are.) It seems to work if I open the valve on the tank and let it sit for a couple of minutes. I really need to get a new grill. This one is kinda shot. Tired of replacing burners and heat tents. Maybe this year I can get a new one. New job and all, should help.
3/21/2012 8:45:50 PM EDT
[#20]




Quoted:

I have started to have this very problem lately. Only with the newly exchanged tank. (I don't normally exchange I have mine filled, simply because I don't know what tank I am getting and also you don't really know how "full " the tanks are.) It seems to work if I open the valve on the tank and let it sit for a couple of minutes. I really need to get a new grill. This one is kinda shot. Tired of replacing burners and heat tents. Maybe this year I can get a new one. New job and all, should help.



Time for a new grill here too.  The heat tent flavorizer bar replacements are never ending.



What kind of new job ya got there?  We liked your old one!!  So did the hospital.



3/22/2012 8:56:55 AM EDT
[#21]
Since several of us might be looking, anyone have gas grill recommendations?
 
3/22/2012 10:48:34 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I have started to have this very problem lately. Only with the newly exchanged tank. (I don't normally exchange I have mine filled, simply because I don't know what tank I am getting and also you don't really know how "full " the tanks are.) It seems to work if I open the valve on the tank and let it sit for a couple of minutes. I really need to get a new grill. This one is kinda shot. Tired of replacing burners and heat tents. Maybe this year I can get a new one. New job and all, should help.

Time for a new grill here too.  The heat tent flavorizer bar replacements are never ending.

What kind of new job ya got there?  We liked your old one!!  So did the hospital.



I am still doing my existing job/business. I needed a more reliable paycheck so I took a full time job in Fond Du Lac at Mag Machine tool formerly know as Giddings and Lewis. I am a scraper there. I am one of the 4 guys that puts the accuracy into their machines. Mating surfaces on critical parts such as ways, turntables  and headstocks are hand cut by us, not to exceed .00002" of an inch per foot, not to exceed .00008" per total span length. This plant makes vertical turning centers and horizontal boring machines that can handle single part sizes as large as a semi truck.

They were testing one of the T-Rex high torque machines earlier in the week. Keep in mind on these machines the part rotates on a rotory table and the tool is somewhat stationary. They had this machine screeming. They did a test cut where they had a 1" wide cutter and a single pass cut 3/8" deep. Now they call it the T-Rex because it's a high torque version. The sound it made when making this cut was amazing! Super loud shreek. You needed earplugs withing 200 feet of the machine. All with no coolant.

This is a mid sized VTC




Sorry to derail Glenn.
3/22/2012 11:02:21 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
I have started to have this very problem lately. Only with the newly exchanged tank. (I don't normally exchange I have mine filled, simply because I don't know what tank I am getting and also you don't really know how "full " the tanks are.) It seems to work if I open the valve on the tank and let it sit for a couple of minutes. I really need to get a new grill. This one is kinda shot. Tired of replacing burners and heat tents. Maybe this year I can get a new one. New job and all, should help.


Wait about 6 months or so. I picked up a steal at walmart. Normally $250, I got it on clearance, display model for $110. Three normal burners and one infrared burner. drawers, prep area, etc.
3/22/2012 12:31:03 PM EDT
[#24]
Do yourselves a favor and instead of buying a cheapy grill, get a Weber.
I have an original Genesis 2000 gas grill that is going on 18 years old and still works every single time!
Replaced the burners last year and ready for another 18 years!
3/22/2012 12:43:23 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Do yourselves a favor and instead of buying a cheapy grill, get a Weber.
I have an original Genesis 2000 gas grill that is going on 18 years old and still works every single time!
Replaced the burners last year and ready for another 18 years!


Would like to but can't afford to drop $800+ on a grill.

We have always looked at buying a grill and converting it to natural gas. I like this idea as I can just go fire it up when I want. I hear the down side is that the flame is not as hot. Maybe this is the time to buy one?
3/22/2012 2:32:17 PM EDT
[#26]
This is our compact Weber, except our model hooks up to a standard 20-lb propane cylinder.  Not $800...clearly I'm a grilling amateur, as I've never seen an $800 grill.  

Made Italian sausage on it yesterday and it went up to 400 degrees, and maintained 200 on a low setting.  So maybe it's fixed now?  Thanks everyone for the suggestions and expertise!
3/22/2012 2:41:33 PM EDT
[#27]




Quoted:

This is our compact Weber, except our model hooks up to a standard 20-lb propane cylinder. Not $800...clearly I'm a grilling amateur, as I've never seen an $800 grill.



Made Italian sausage on it yesterday and it went up to 400 degrees, and maintained 200 on a low setting. So maybe it's fixed now? Thanks everyone for the suggestions and expertise!


Yeah.  The price is right but...



Follow with me here. You invite me* over to your house for dinner.



Here is your grill. I see my dinner is ready.






What is everyone else going to eat?




* or many other WI arfcommers
3/22/2012 2:43:44 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
This is our compact Weber, except our model hooks up to a standard 20-lb propane cylinder.  Not $800...clearly I'm a grilling amateur, as I've never seen an $800 grill.  

Made Italian sausage on it yesterday and it went up to 400 degrees, and maintained 200 on a low setting.  So maybe it's fixed now?  Thanks everyone for the suggestions and expertise!




Home Depot $2,529.00

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202176252/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=weber&storeId=10051

The Weber Summit S-670 6-Burner Natural Gas Grill features 6 stainless-steel burners, a flush-mounted side burner, an infrared rear-mounted rotisserie burner, a sear station burner, a smoker burner and a stainless-steel smoker box. This natural gas grill has 9.5mm diameter stainless steel rod cooking grates and stainless steel flavorizer bars.

769 sq. in. cooking area provides plenty of space for your grilling needs
6 stainless-steel burners rated at 60,000 BTUs for great grilling power
12,000 BTU/hr. input flush-mounted side burner offers space for a variety of barbequed items with ample grilling power
9 mm diameter stainless-steel rod cooking grates and stainless-steel flavorizer bars for excellent performance
12,000 BTU/hr. flush-mounted side burner provides extra space for powerful grilling control and specialized barbequing
Sear station burner with 10,600 BTU/hr., a 6,800 BTU/hr. smoker burner and a stainless-steel smoker box for powerful cooking
10,600 BTU/hr. tuck-away, infrared, rear-mounted rotisserie system with flip-up motor and separate spit and fork storage in the enclosed cart for convenient storage
Snap-Jet individual burner ignition system eliminates labor-intensive startup
10 ft. flexible hose included for convenience
MFG Brand Name : Weber
MFG Model # : 7470001
MFG Part # : 7470001

3/22/2012 2:49:29 PM EDT
[#29]




Quoted:



Quoted:

This is our compact Weber, except our model hooks up to a standard 20-lb propane cylinder. Not $800...clearly I'm a grilling amateur, as I've never seen an $800 grill.



Made Italian sausage on it yesterday and it went up to 400 degrees, and maintained 200 on a low setting. So maybe it's fixed now? Thanks everyone for the suggestions and expertise!




http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/8b/8be2de62-9634-4dc1-938e-407a8118a5bc_300.jpg



Home Depot $2,529.00



http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202176252/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=weber&storeId=10051

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Pfft...



Mine runs on "gas" too.






3/22/2012 3:15:30 PM EDT
[#30]
Good advice to go with the Weber. I burned up a couple of the Walmart specials and finally bought a Weber. After about 10 years with the Weber, I replaced the flavorizer bars last year. Those ran all of $30.

During the summer, it stays on the patio and gets used about 4 nights a week...I suppose a 30# tank would be a good idea?!

3/22/2012 3:57:15 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
It's those GD spiders in the venturi tube...

Been there...  I lit my grill, walked into the house to get the steaks and came out to a grill engulfed in flames.
A web blocked the tube so the gas leaked out and up to the front of the grill and then ignited....