Posted: 1/15/2010 8:21:03 AM EDT
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The legal FAQ I wrote a couple years ago is outdated. The hunting regulations have changed, and so has the permitted age to possess a weapon (as long as your parents are supervising you).
Before I contact site staff to try and figure out how to edit the page––since I cannot edit the page  ––I thought I'd check and see if it's actually worthwhile.
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Glenn, you did an awesome job, but I think its time to update it a bit. Agreed. I'll offer some constructive criticism: 1. I'd use a bit more bolding, underlining, and font size changes to differentiate topic titles. This will help with organization and with readability. 2. I'd change some of the colors around- again, readability. 3. Might want to mention that radar detectors are legal in the traffic camera section. Also might want to touch on U-turns at intersections. 4. I'd also discuss ammunition; tracers, inc., AP, etc. Perhaps also fireworks? 5. How about something explaining the WI handgun 48 hour wait and $13 fee? We seem to get a lot of questions about that. This all said, I'm not going to toss rocks but stay on my ass. If you want help, please let me know. Sincerely, Mike |
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I like it, but add a night vision topic as more people are getting into the nv world. Ex- Legal to hunt with a nv scope as long as the IR is not on. So long as it does not have the capability of projecting IR. You can not possess any laser or other light emitting device except for using a flashlight at the point of kill for species which allow it. |
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The legal FAQ I wrote a couple years ago is outdated. The hunting regulations have changed, and so has the permitted age to possess a weapon (as long as your parents are supervising you).. Basic structure is fine, but the minor and firearms/hunting definitely needs updated. I would suggest that you add language explaining that no one under 18 may possess a handgun at any time including hunting with the only exception being target practicing with their parent/guardian. This is found in 948.6(3) as referenced below. Also, there is nothing anywhere which mentions 12" barrel length. The exception for long guns (allows target practice and hunting as well as transportation with hunters' safety etc) is found in 948.6 (3). It recognizes 941.28, 29.304 and 29.593. |
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Glenn, you did an awesome job, but I think its time to update it a bit. Agreed. I'll offer some constructive criticism: 1. I'd use a bit more bolding, underlining, and font size changes to differentiate topic titles. This will help with organization and with readability. 2. I'd change some of the colors around- again, readability. 3. Might want to mention that radar detectors are legal in the traffic camera section. Also might want to touch on U-turns at intersections. 4. I'd also discuss ammunition; tracers, inc., AP, etc. Perhaps also fireworks? 5. How about something explaining the WI handgun 48 hour wait and $13 fee? We seem to get a lot of questions about that. This all said, I'm not going to toss rocks but stay on my ass. If you want help, please let me know. Sincerely, Mike Mike has hit the high points here. You did a great job on the original, but we can always improve and update. I would especially look at the organization / readability. Maybe more of an outline style with like subjects grouped a little better. I'm no legal expert, but I could help with style / organization, etc if you would like. I think one of the biggest things to do is to move it into it's own, separate tacked thread - it's a bit buried now and deserves a separate thread. Also, (mods), I really think we have too many tacked treads in the WIHTF. Legal faq deserves it's own thread but a lot of the other stuff needs to be either untacked or consolidated into the tacked 'links of interest' topic. |
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bump for any other suggestions before I buckle down and get this done. How about weird hunting rules? For example, the whole leaning a rifle against a car versus completely placing it on top of a car? (Nevermind, found that. May want to add it under other rules, too? For example, people engaged in shooting but not while hunting? Also, does this mean that a bunch of folks with pickup trucks backed up to a shooting line at a shoot couldn't lay a firearm on a tail gate? Or use a tail gate as a disassembly table for troubleshooting, cleaning, etc.? Or shoot off of the tail gate/use it as a bench or a rest?) Carry of a handgun for protection during non-gun season? Or carry of a handgun for protection during gun season? Again, the offer of help remains open. 
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bump for any other suggestions before I buckle down and get this done. How about weird hunting rules? For example, the whole leaning a rifle against a car versus completely placing it on top of a car? (Nevermind, found that. May want to add it under other rules, too? For example, people engaged in shooting but not while hunting? Also, does this mean that a bunch of folks with pickup trucks backed up to a shooting line at a shoot couldn't lay a firearm on a tail gate? Or use a tail gate as a disassembly table for troubleshooting, cleaning, etc.? Or shoot off of the tail gate/use it as a bench or a rest?) Carry of a handgun for protection during non-gun season? Or carry of a handgun for protection during gun season? Yes. You may NEVER lay a firearm on the tailgate. In strict accordance with the law, you may not have your zipper open a little bit, a buckle not completely buckled or a snap or tie not completely fastened if the firearm is in or on the vehicle. The only allowance for a firearm to be touching a vehicle without being unloaded and "encased" is an unloaded firearm leaning against the vehicle. The law states when and what type of handgun you may or may not "hunt" with. You may beat the rap but you may not beat the ride. The burden of proof will be on the warden in court if you are carrying a 4" barrel .44 Mag during deer season along with your rifle whether or not you are using the handgun for "hunting". The burden of proof is on the warden that you are "hunting" if you are in the woods during non hunting season or during hunting season without a license yet you are armed for "self defense". The same thing goes for walking down the road during hunting season with a loaded firearm or walking out of the woods at night after hunting hours with a loaded firearm. How you answer any questions will be key to your defense. If you indicate that you are on a deer "drive" while you are walking within 50' of the road center, you have no defense. If you are walking to another deer stand or walking back to your cabin, there is nothing prohibiting you from having a loaded firearm 24 hours a day during season. |
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bump for any other suggestions before I buckle down and get this done. How about weird hunting rules? For example, the whole leaning a rifle against a car versus completely placing it on top of a car? (Nevermind, found that. May want to add it under other rules, too? For example, people engaged in shooting but not while hunting? Also, does this mean that a bunch of folks with pickup trucks backed up to a shooting line at a shoot couldn't lay a firearm on a tail gate? Or use a tail gate as a disassembly table for troubleshooting, cleaning, etc.? Or shoot off of the tail gate/use it as a bench or a rest?) Carry of a handgun for protection during non-gun season? Or carry of a handgun for protection during gun season? Yes. You may NEVER lay a firearm on the tailgate. In strict accordance with the law, you may not have your zipper open a little bit, a buckle not completely buckled or a snap or tie not completely fastened if the firearm is in or on the vehicle. The only allowance for a firearm to be touching a vehicle without being unloaded and "encased" is an unloaded firearm leaning against the vehicle. The law states when and what type of handgun you may or may not "hunt" with. You may beat the rap but you may not beat the ride. The burden of proof will be on the warden in court if you are carrying a 4" barrel .44 Mag during deer season along with your rifle whether or not you are using the handgun for "hunting". The burden of proof is on the warden that you are "hunting" if you are in the woods during non hunting season or during hunting season without a license yet you are armed for "self defense". The same thing goes for walking down the road during hunting season with a loaded firearm or walking out of the woods at night after hunting hours with a loaded firearm. How you answer any questions will be key to your defense. If you indicate that you are on a deer "drive" while you are walking within 50' of the road center, you have no defense. If you are walking to another deer stand or walking back to your cabin, there is nothing prohibiting you from having a loaded firearm 24 hours a day during season. Of all the..... I can't tell you how many times I shot off of my tailgate when i lived in AZ. My F150 (and how I miss my truck) had a plastic bedliner with ribs. The bipod feet on my Jap 99 LMG fit into those ribs just right. I'd drive on top of a 4x4 only large hill, set up, and do test firing from the bipod off of my tailgate. One of the things that kills me the most is that I lost my digital camera and laptop in a burglary. Those had over 1,000 photos including some of my desert shooting spot plus some the gun actively being shot off of the tailgate. This one just frosts me. Mike |
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This one just frosts me. You think you are mad now... hold on....... 
A hay wagon (or any other wheeled platform which can be towed) is considered a vehicle for hunting purposes. Unless you remove wheel(s) and put it on blocks so that it can not be towed, you may not shoot from it.....
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This one just frosts me. You think you are mad now... hold on.......
A hay wagon (or any other wheeled platform which can be towed) is considered a vehicle for hunting purposes. Unless you remove wheel(s) and put it on blocks so that it can not be towed, you may not shoot from it.....
That's just stupid. It... Wow. Mike |