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1/15/2008 12:23:22 PM EDT
Coming up to Ft. McCoy for a few days.

I know I will freeze my ass off, any tips for making "not so bad"?
1/15/2008 1:05:43 PM EDT
[#1]
Layers.

Layers.
Layers.

Make sure you have a good hat (not just a thin wool one) and good boots.

BTW: did I mention layers?


And for one more time layers, and keep em loose so you trap air between them.
1/15/2008 1:09:06 PM EDT
[#2]
FYI: here is a good thread on what to do to keep from getting cold (I know it is in GD but it does contain some really good info).
1/15/2008 1:40:10 PM EDT
[#3]
You are going to DIE!!!!!

Supposed to be highs in the single digits by the end of this week. Lots of Layers is Definatly the key, And lot of changes of Warm non cotton socks, Once your feet get cold/damp you are SUNK.
1/15/2008 1:52:45 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Layers.

Layers.
Layers.

Make sure you have a good hat (not just a thin wool one) and good boots.

BTW: did I mention layers?


And for one more time layers, and keep em loose so you trap air between them.


QFT!

For anyone not experienced with cold weather, Layers are very important. Gloves, Boots and a good hat are just as important.

For cold weather this is how I generally dress from inside out. Can vary depending on activity, but you can always remove clothing if your hot.
1x Tight fitting t-shirt (longsleeve T if really cold) (tucked in pants)
1x Loose Fitting long sleeve T (optional) (tucked in pants)
1x Thin Turtle neck (tucked in pants)
1x oversized Sweatshirt or hoodie
1x winter Jacket with a tall collar or hood
Lower
1x Skivvies
1x Long Johns
1x Pants
1x Overpants with zipper sides
1x thin dress socks
1x Wool Socks
1x Insulated boots
I cannot stress the importance of warm feet, cold feet will make you miserable.

Gloves are your preference but I like the gauntlet style covered by the coat, keeps the snow and wind out.

Fleece Neck warmer and a good hat that covers your whole ear. I also like to wear sunglasses or some clear eye protection if I'm going to be outside, nighttime is yellow shooting glasses.


Hope this helps

-JTP

ETA- you want to top layer to be as windproof and waterproof as possible. If it's cotton and you can't keep it dry, don't wear it. Some will say no cotton at all, but I can't stand synthetics on my skin. If you dress right you can actually be quite comfortable outside in the cold.
1/15/2008 6:12:44 PM EDT
[#5]
#1 rule, "Cotton next to skin is a SIN!!" If you wear cotton against the skin and sweat, it's equal to wrapping yourself in a wet towel. Wear a quality base layer (long-johns) Best base layers are made from polypropolyene sp? or capalene sp? These fabrics are warm and will wick moisture away from the skin keeping you warm and dry.

Layers of wool (I prefer wool) and synthetics like fleece and thinsulate are best. For socks, I like to wear a quality synthetic next to my skin and then a good wool on the outside. Synthetic for comfort and moisture wicking, wool for warmth even when wet.

Also, wear a waterproof shell to keep the moisture out. Wool is wonderful for an outerlayer too, stays warm when wet and as long as you are not going inside at all the moisture never makes it in toward you. Waterproof and warm boots are a must. Gore-Tex is worth the $ if you are going to use it a lot.

I spend my winters outside in up to -30 F weather near the Canadian boarder and have learned about proper dress the hard way. IF you plan on doing this often, invest in good gear- you won't regret it. When it is that cold I have about $1k worth of clothes on, and they are worth every penny. Good luck

My extreme cold weather -30F get-up:

Polypro. base layer and thin liner socks
Synthetic/merino wool boot socks
Wool socks
Military wool pants
Fleece top
Fleece windstopper vest
Whitewater fleece and thinsulate jacket.
Columbia Gallatian Range Wool jacket with hood
Columbia Gallatian Range wool Bibs
Whitewater thisulate and Gore-Tex Bibs
Whitewater Gore-tex shell jacket
Carhartt knit hat, hoods from wool and shell jacket (thinsulate in this one)
Fleece Bavaclava sp?
Thin wool gloves
Heavy Jokatherm sp? rubber coated wool insulated mittens
Rocky 1200gr thinsulate boots.


Hope this helps out!

1/16/2008 7:47:08 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
#1 rule, "Cotton next to skin is a SIN!!" If you wear cotton against the skin and sweat, it's equal to wrapping yourself in a wet towel. Wear a quality base layer (long-johns) Best base layers are made from polypropolyene sp? or capalene sp? These fabrics are warm and will wick moisture away from the skin keeping you warm and dry.

Layers of wool (I prefer wool) and synthetics like fleece and thinsulate are best. For socks, I like to wear a quality synthetic next to my skin and then a good wool on the outside. Synthetic for comfort and moisture wicking, wool for warmth even when wet.

Also, wear a waterproof shell to keep the moisture out. Wool is wonderful for an outerlayer too, stays warm when wet and as long as you are not going inside at all the moisture never makes it in toward you. Waterproof and warm boots are a must. Gore-Tex is worth the $ if you are going to use it a lot.

I spend my winters outside in up to -30 F weather near the Canadian boarder and have learned about proper dress the hard way. IF you plan on doing this often, invest in good gear- you won't regret it. When it is that cold I have about $1k worth of clothes on, and they are worth every penny. Good luck

My extreme cold weather -30F get-up:

Polypro. base layer and thin liner socks
Synthetic/merino wool boot socks
Wool socks
Military wool pants
Fleece top
Fleece windstopper vest
Whitewater fleece and thinsulate jacket.
Columbia Gallatian Range Wool jacket with hood
Columbia Gallatian Range wool Bibs
Whitewater thisulate and Gore-Tex Bibs
Whitewater Gore-tex shell jacket
Carhartt knit hat, hoods from wool and shell jacket (thinsulate in this one)
Fleece Bavaclava sp?
Thin wool gloves
Heavy Jokatherm sp? rubber coated wool insulated mittens
Rocky 1200gr thinsulate boots.


Hope this helps out!



You HAVE to post a picture of that get-up.  I feel like the Michelin in my down parka from LL Bean, you must look like a walking, tuskless walrus.
1/16/2008 5:58:02 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

You HAVE to post a picture of that get-up.  I feel like the Michelin in my down parka from LL Bean, you must look like a walking, tuskless walrus.


Hehe,

Yes, any more and I'd feel like the Michelin man, it just gets a little snug in the arms but not bad at all. Definately a manageable compromise, -30F is a whole new level of cold. Another size larger on the shell would solve that issue though. Leg setup works just fine, carefull plannng about sizes and combinations when buying gear helps a lot.  Layers as has been said by many, are definately key. If I am active and need less insulation and a bit more mobility, I'll drop layers as needed.
1/16/2008 6:39:33 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Coming up to Ft. McCoy for a few days.

I know I will freeze my ass off, any tips for making "not so bad"?


What is your ETA
1/16/2008 8:34:00 PM EDT
[#9]
I can't put my arms down!