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11/29/2007 11:30:59 AM EDT
Anyone in SE Wisconsin familiar with HK91 clones? Or know anyone who is? I bought one at a gun show and it's given me nothing but trouble....no one seems to be able to fix it. Even took it to a gunsmith who said he fixed it, but didn't.

Anyone?

Thanks
11/29/2007 11:43:32 AM EDT
[#1]
would help if you told us what was happening with it.
11/29/2007 12:14:10 PM EDT
[#2]
I've rebuilt two Century fubar'd Cetme's.  Tell me your troubles, then we go from there.
11/29/2007 12:21:06 PM EDT
[#3]
I had an early model PTR91.  It had FTE issues due to tolerances being too tight I believe.  They fixed it though.
11/29/2007 1:12:59 PM EDT
[#4]
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would help if you told us what was happening with it.


I didn't want to bore everyone with the issues if no one was familiar with the problems.

OK, here is the scoop. I bought it used from a gun show. Took it to the range to shoot some military surplus FMJs. It fired 1 round and would not fire again. The charging handle just flopped back and forth with no resistance, and would not cycle the action. I took it to a gunsmith who had it a couple of weeks and said he fixed it. I picked it up from his assistant today. I pulled the charging handle back...the first time it went back about 75% of the way. The second time I tried it, it wouldn't move, like it was jammed or something. So he fixed the original issue, but a new problem has popped up.

I apologize for the lack of info, and for my dumb questions. I'm simply not all that familiar with this weapon yet.

Thanks for the replies
11/29/2007 1:14:06 PM EDT
[#5]
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I've rebuilt two Century fubar'd Cetme's.  Tell me your troubles, then we go from there.



The receiver is marked C91 Sporter .308 Cal
                                Century Arms
11/29/2007 2:46:54 PM EDT
[#6]
It kinda sounds like someone at some point put a claw style scope mount on this rifle.  If thats the issue its pretty common, we just need to open the upper receiver tube a little.  If its not due to a scope mount then it still sounds as if the receiver is a little tight and the bolt carrier is not allowed to move.  

From your first description,  it sounds like the bolt carrier got stuck in the rear of the receiver, thats why the charging handle was flopping.  You could also have a bent recoil spring guide.  That would also be an easy fix,  just take off the butt stock and examine the recoil rod.  It should be perfectly straight.  I'm pretty sure I have a Cetme recoil rod assembly if you need one.

What I would do is, take off the stock, examine the recoil rod, then pull the charging handle to release the bolt.  The carrier should fall freely out of the receiver.  If it gets stuck then thats your problem.
11/29/2007 4:48:24 PM EDT
[#7]
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It kinda sounds like someone at some point put a claw style scope mount on this rifle.  If thats the issue its pretty common, we just need to open the upper receiver tube a little.  


It had a claw mount when I got it. Sounds like you hit the nail on the head.


11/29/2007 6:01:30 PM EDT
[#8]
The issue is that Century stamped receivers are slightly out of spec.  Its really only an issue when you either try to fit a claw type mount or when you try to switch to a G3 or HK91 buttstock.  Either condition can be fixed though with a little reworking.  
11/30/2007 7:19:50 AM EDT
[#9]
71mach103,
Where are you located? Maybe there is somebody close enought to you that could take a look at it for you. I'm not  an expert on G3, but could find my way around one as I do own a PTR.
12/2/2007 3:52:58 PM EDT
[#10]
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71mach103,
Where are you located? Maybe there is somebody close enought to you that could take a look at it for you. I'm not  an expert on G3, but could find my way around one as I do own a PTR.


I'm in SE Wisconsin, about 10 minutes from the airport in Milwaukee. If there was someone relatively close who would be willing to help in person, that would seriously kick azz
12/3/2007 6:54:48 AM EDT
[#11]
I am around the airport and have some experience with the HK platform shoot me a IM and we can work something out.

Brian Holmes
12/5/2007 12:23:23 PM EDT
[#12]
IM sent
1/5/2008 4:45:28 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
I am around the airport and have some experience with the HK platform shoot me a IM and we can work something out.

Brian Holmes


Tried to IM you again but it was full. Could use some help, let me know if you are still willing.

Thanks