Posted: 1/28/2007 8:54:46 PM EDT
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PRACTICAL FIRST AID When: March 3-4, 2007 (this is the only time we will be offering this course locally in Wisconsin in 2007) Location: Driftless Rifle Club (Reedsburg) Cost: $200 Prerequisites: None Defensive Edge Staff will be conducting a 2-day Practical First Aid course. This course will provide all the basic fundamentals and and American Heart Association Certification. All attendees will have the opportunity to build their own personal field trauma kit. This course focuses solid fundamentals and is a prerequisite for our courses in: Tactical First Aid Team Tactics Field Tactics Gunfighting While Protecting Others II Gunfighting From and Around Vehicles II Wilderness Survival Highlights Includes but not limited to: Basic First Aid Certification CPR Certification AED Certification Oral Airways Nasal Airways Field Preparations Stabilization & Loading Issues Litters, Drags & Sleds Gear Selection Blast Injuries Gunshot Injuries Impaled Objects & Contusions Burns Fractures Shock Issues Hypothermia & Hyperthermia CY6 Greg Sullivan "Sully" Chief Instructor SLR15 Rifles TheDefensiveEdge.com |
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Click here to sign up for this course. Sully, I haven't actually clicked through yet, but you can count on both FMD and AnnieO to attend this one. Folks, if you shoot, you owe it to yourself to know what to do in an emergency. |
(that is how long ago I was certified)
Light up a smoke & call 911 |
Not funny... --- I won't be able to make this because of bills but Sully will you be offering this in MN at a later date? |
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he is kind of right in a way. Kinda goes along the lines of "are you a surgeon???? No ! but i did stay at a holiday inn express last night ..." |
| I have never taken this class, but I was a first responder for many years, first responders at taught most of this stuff, for those that don't know what a first responder is, they are a step down from an EMT. If you can't make this class, like me you can also sign up for a First Responder course at your local tech college as far as first aid goes most of the good stuff is taught. I would love to make this class, because tech schools don't offer the other stuff like weapon training, etc. But I am a Wedding DJ & have a wedding that weekend in Green Bay...Sully, If you ever think about doing another one of these classes in Wisconsin down the road, I would be very interested. |
HKMP5 was making a (poor) joke. As far as turning you into a paramedic, it aint going to happen. What the course WILL do is equip you to deal with an emergency situation until the cavalry arrives. If you think you don't need this class and don't have an NREMT cert, do me a favor and don't shoot on the same range as me. Kramer, unless I read you wrong, your attitude is about as safe as a muzzle sweep with a hot gun. |
Poor joke with a bit of sarcasm Every month I give a safety walk for our new members at the club the first place we stop is at my truck where I pull out my first aid kit and suggest they bring one with them to include at minimum some battle bandages. I also suggest that hey leave word with someone where they are what there doing and when they will return just like you would for hunting or fishing trip, then for the next hour or so we drill the word safety into there heads as best we can FMD & the rest of the guys I shoot with are the safest people in our club the NFA&TGS has their shit together for the record I would highly recommend taking this course I would like to do so myself but have prior commitments.  |
No i was saying that this class wont make you a shit hot combat medic. You will know some of the basics. That's all i was saying. |
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BINGO! 
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I understand that, my whole point is that this is SULLY's thread, and I think it should remain on topic, since this is part of SULLY's living. Someone may have taken his joke very seriously and said "Screw that... they're not even serious about something that should be taken seriously" - Just my opinion is all :) I *might* be able to make this course. I am going to see if I can sell some movies and junk to come up with the course fee. My next question is what is required for the course? -David |
If you can sell something or even borrow the cash to make this course I would recomend it. I for one am going to *ugh* put it on the credit card and try to pay it off at the end of the month (comeon overtime). Now I just have to talk my wife into letting me sweep the cobwebs off the credit card. As far as I know this one is a "bring a willingness to learn" like all of Sully's courses. It does not say anything about a "loadout" or any other required gear (of course at Driftless a weapon and some plinking ammo is always a plus). I am not sure there will be time to do any shooting but one can always hope  .
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Yeah, I am going to try really hard. I'm going to start listing stuff tomorrow I think. |
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Show up with an open mind and ready to learn. Everything else is provided. You are welcome to bring you own kit and go through it with the instructors. CY6 Greg Sullivan "Sully" Chief Instructor SLR15 Rifles TheDefensiveEdge.com |
I run the AED training at my school district. From my handout I give to the teachers: What is an Automated External Defibrillator (AED)? Automated External Defibrillators are specialized medical devices designed to recognize and treat certain lethal heart rhythms in the setting of a cardiac arrest. AEDs deliver an electrical shock to persons in ventricular fibrillation or ventricular tachycardia. AEDs provide auditory and visual prompts to assist first responders in treating a cardiac arrest. AEDs have been shown to decrease mortality when used by trained persons and used in conjunction with cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR). Why does a person having a heart attack need an AED? When a heart attack becomes a full cardiac arrest, the heart most often goes into uncoordinated electric activity called fibrillation. The heart twitches ineffectively and cannot pump blood. The AED delivers electric current to the heart muscle, momentarily stunning the heart, stopping all activity. This gives the heart an opportunity to resume beating effectively. Will an AED always resuscitate someone in cardiac arrest? The AED treats only a heart that is in ventricular fibrillation or ventricular tachycardia. In other cardiac arrest situations, the heart does not respond to electric current but needs medications and breathing support instead. Also, AEDs are less successful when the victim has been in cardiac arrest for longer than a few minutes, especially if no CPR was provided. Is an AED safe to use? An AED is safe to use by anyone who has been trained to operate it. The American Heart Association recommends that anyone who lives or works where an AED is available for use by lay rescuers participate in a Heartsaver AED course. AEDs, in fact, are so user-friendly that untrained rescuers can generally succeed in attaching the pads and delivering shocks. Untrained rescuers, however, may not know when to use an AED, and they may not use an AED safely, posing some danger of electric shock to themselves and others. Also, untrained rescuers would not know how to respond to the victim when the AED prompts “no shock indicated”.   Av. |
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Thanks much!! So far I have SPF enough items to pay for the course. So I should be in. Is there anyway to hold a spot until I can send you the funds Sully? Also, anyone want to split a hotel room? Trying to save as much money as possible. Worse come to worse I can sleep in my car I guess. -David |
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March is always a crapshoot when it somes to the weather, rain is the PITA to deal with. The days are usually pleasant so a cold nights sleep is easy to recover from, not like waking up and looking forward to a minus zero degree high temp for the day. I recommend a foam pad over an air mattress for cold weather camping, best of both worlds is a 'self inflating' foam pad. The shop will be warm for those who will be 'roughing it'. What we need to do is get Stopper's dad to give the 'kid' the Winnebago for the weekend. Our own little short bus!!! CY6 bulletcatchR |
I may make it, won't know until it gets closer I guess. |
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This class is the perfect next step in the evolution of DE training around here. I've been pressing Sully for something like this for a while now, but he's really taken the time to round up the resources and cadre to do this right. Scott is a great guy and a great practitioner. He's also a real shooter, with the background to bring this all together. I've been a medic for years, and into shooting since before that. It took a tactical medic course to really make me realize how integral trauma care is to shooting though, and how the two need to be taught together for things to work well in the field. Care under fire and tactical medical care have really become disiplines of their own over the past decade, and a basic understanding of such is an absolute necessity for any shooter nowdays. Outside of the tactical arena, any of us are more likely to put first aid training to use then we are to put our handgunning or carbine training to use. I've had a chance to talk with Sully, Scott, Stan and other DE cadre / students about what the future holds for training. Some very interesting stuff is in the wind, with different skill sets coming together in some pretty advanced classes. Much like handgun I and carbine I are the cornerstones for a good shooting foundation, this class will be the jumping off point for some really interesting stuff in the future. Some great stuff has been happening among the Driftless / DE crew. This is going to be a big part of the next step. Don't miss out. |
Wondering about start time myself. Can't find it anywhere. A list of nearby motels is under the WI legal FAQ at the bottom. Legal Faq All in Reedsburg (closest town). |
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AnieO, Drawcut, and I will all be staying at the Voyager as well. Figure 40 minutes from the time you turn the key 'till you get into BC's shop. Dunno if BC is making chilli, so I'd bring some sammitches. We'll most likely have water there, but bring plenty of fluids. If noone else does, I will still harp on the health importance of being hydrated. ETA: BC's is sort of in the middle of nowhere. BYO chow is the order of the day.Not sure what the plan is, but very often we'll get together in R'burg or the Dells on Sat night for dinner after class. While class is not outside, it will be in a building that can get cold. Dress warmly and in layers and you'll be fine. More edits: Yeah, bring guns/ammo too. Chances are that we'll plink a lil at some point. |
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Sounds like lunch's main course will be served, you must be a meat eater. I would suggest bringing stuff to share like snacks, baked goods, and stuff to hydrate, etc. It sounds like the class will be inside by the woodburner, so cold should not be an issue. CY6 Greg Sullivan "Sully" Chief Instructor SLR15 Rifles TheDefensiveEdge.com |
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My internet has really crapped out in theis snow. I'll have a pot of chili going on Sat. Stew on Sun., coffee pot and boiling water, bring your own snacks and drinks. Class will be indoors bring slippers to wear in the house if you want. I have steel setup in the field range, no /core ammo. You will need snowshoes or skis to get around, I have a bunch of loaner equipment. I haven't been to the pistol range since the last big snow, you'll have to beat a path. CY6 bulletcatchR |