Posted: 6/11/2006 5:00:17 AM EDT
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I will be going to New Mexico at the end of the month I have not yet mapped out the route. I will be driving our company 26' straight truck with furniture and such to one of my bosses new homes.There is a website I think that has the laws for different states transportation any have the link?I do not and dont need a C.D.L. because truck gross weight will be under 26.000.00 Lbs. So I don't think the Fed law applies.I would like to keep a S&W 4" 586 with a few loaded speed loaders in a gun rug or case in the cab(Not Loaded)WE are not for hire I have Company Name and D.O.T. number on truck any L.E.O. care to sound off. I don't need to take but would be nice to have I figure on staying in motels at least 2-3 nights each way depending how far I get each day I think its 1800 miles one way. |
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Your route will take you through WI, IL, MO, OK, TX and NM. Unloaded and cased (behind the seat and inaccessible) as a general rule. Treat the hotel room as you would your home. 1) Concealed on your person in a vehicle is okay without a permit in Missouri. 2) You may be okay to CCW in the vehicle without a permit through Texas, but I'd do so with caution (the truck may not meet the def. of a "private vehicle"). 3) Concealed or open on your person in a vehicle is okay without a permit in New Mexico. Please re-read the above carefully. Most of the "without a permit" parts apply ONLY while you are in a vehicle. Info from Packing.org Click the link above. Click on "State CCW Info" at the top of the page. Click "okay" on the disclaimer. Choose the state that you wish to view. Click on the "Car/Gun Law Summary" for that state. Enjoy the trip!  ETA: It's 1400 miles from Milwauke to Albuquerque (via the 43/39/55/44/40 route). |
FL Non-res CCW permit is legal in the states mentioned. Only MI and NH have reciprocity with FL resident only licences.
Unloaded and cased, sitting on your lap is iffy in WI (I wouldn't try it)  . Unloaded and cased, behind the seat should be just fine in WI. This would be the third thread covering what is considered CCW (vs. what could be considered CCW) in a vehicle in the hometown forum in the last week. The others have comments by LEOs, including this one:
FWIW: Unloaded and cased, behind the seat is also fine through IL, with a valid WIDL, as a WIDL functions as a FOID there (Cook County DA's opinion to the contrary notwithstanding). With respect: Please check the facts on the law, available in the tacked post at the top of this forum, or packing.org ETA: Some clarification, and a link to the other threads: ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=21&t=234779 ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=21&t=234592 |
I could swear that IL has some "inaccessable to the driver" or similar language in thier peacable journey laws. When I was heading from WI to Champaign, IL, I phoned ahead to both the IL State Police and the Champaign locals to make sure that I was good to go. Me: I'm a WI res going to Champaign. Is it okay to bring xxxxxx? IL Cops: Cased, unloaded and in the trunk .... you're fine. Me: I'm driving a hatch-back, and the seats will be folded down to facilitate all the crap that's coming with me. IL Cops: Stow the cased and unloaded firearms as far from the driver as possible. Me: Okay, will do, thanks for your time. I wouldn't try rolling through IL with a Glock in a pistol rug behind the seat and a mag in my pocket. The WI DL in place of a an IL FOID is correct. On numerous occasions, I've purchased ammunition in IL by presenting my WI DL. Occasionally the clerk will be confused, and there will eventually be a call to the authorities for guidance. If you want to do business with Communists you have to be patient; they're slow. ETA: IL does not have state preemption. The gun laws can vary wildly every few miles. The peacable journey stuff is state law. My opinion is that 'peacable journey' protects me while I am on the IL state roads. I wouldn't pull off the road for gas in Chicago or the collar counties where the looney-locals could get their paws on me. Anything south of I-80 is clear of the DMZ. |
IIRC, it's "immediately" accessible: concealcarry.org/transgun0-000.pdf www.isp.state.il.us/foid/firearmsfaq.cfm From the link above: Q: How can I legally transport a firearm on my person or in my vehicle? A: There is more than one way to legally transport a firearm. However, in order to be in compliance with all statutes, it is recommended all firearms be transported:
Enclosed in a case and, By persons who have a valid FOID card. Q: If a non-resident is coming to Illinois to hunt and would like to bring their firearm, how do they legally transport it? A: Non- residents must be legally eligible to possess or acquire firearms and ammunition in their state of residence. It is recommended that, in order to be in compliance with all statutes, non-residents transport all firearms:
Enclosed in a case, and Not immediately accessible or broken down in a nonfunctioning state. Remember that a WIDL is considered the equivilent of an IL FOID. I'd also say that in a cab-over truck, behind the seat meets the reccomended "Not immediately accessible" language, but then again, IANAL, nor am I a Nut Case Cop™.  ETA: One should look at the actual statutes and decide for themselves. Don't have a link, and about to walk out the door, so y'all are on your own (maybe ask in the ILHTF). |
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Not the Unimog! The m16 on the dash rack will violate you in IL. A semi 1919 on a pintle mount in the truck bed is not considered "immediately accessible". However the ammo can must be latched with no belt in the tray. I know, I know...... Fucking IL bullshit. JR |