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12/14/2010 11:46:13 PM EDT
Im sure this question gets asked all the time but Im headed to Denver in Jan where are the gun stores that are a must see? Im looking at tactical not hunting too. I always like to look at cool stuff. Also are there any ranges that are public with some distance? 500 yards plus would be great! Thanks in advance for any input
12/15/2010 8:00:53 AM EDT
[#1]
Jensen Arms up north in Loveland and Machine Gun Tours in Lakewood both have a mouth-watering inventory of tactical toys.  IMO, they are the only ones worth checking out.
12/15/2010 8:07:38 AM EDT
[#2]
I agree with Micah.



Of course Bowers Tactical in Centennial is THE place to shop for accessories
12/15/2010 8:39:02 AM EDT
[#3]
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I agree with Micah.

Of course Bowers Tactical in Centennial is THE place to shop for accessories


Yes... Bowers Tacticalis the #1 accessory and small part store for sure.  They have great prices and even an in-house gunsmith!

When they get their FFL I will be broke for sure.....

12/15/2010 11:07:20 PM EDT
[#4]
thats a good start. What else is there to do in Denver? I have a week to kill. Any crazy CFP laws to worry about?
12/16/2010 1:07:24 AM EDT
[#5]
5280 Armory in Arvada?
12/16/2010 7:33:31 AM EDT
[#6]
I haven't been to 5280 in a few years...they didn't really have a whole lot of AR stuff - and what they had appeared to be bought directly from Brownells.  When I went to the Machine Gun Tours grand opening, they had far more AR stuff in a shop that is a quarter of the size of 5280.
12/16/2010 11:13:35 AM EDT
[#7]
5280 just moved into a bigger place.  i haven't been there, but the old store had plenty of black rifles.
12/16/2010 11:24:25 AM EDT
[#8]
I went to 5280 a few month ago, they had tons of AK stuff and pistols. I wasn't looking for ARs at the time but they had two walls full of rifles and uppers. Jensen's is the best store in the state. Firing line in Aurora is a lot closer and it's a decent size they're about 50/50 with tactical and hunting stuff. I don't have anything nice to say about machine gun tours. Tiny store, tiny inventory, they were more interested in story time than selling products, and prices were terrible.

YMMV
12/16/2010 1:20:43 PM EDT
[#9]
Firing Line sucks in every aspect. Expensive, building is nasty (lighting inside is awful, and no ventilation to speak of on the range) and the staff can quite often be jerks. Save yourself the gas and the headache and just avoid it. Plus, I wouldn't want to have to get on I-225 if I could avoid it right now...
12/16/2010 1:46:04 PM EDT
[#10]
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Firing Line sucks in every aspect. Expensive, building is nasty (lighting inside is awful, and no ventilation to speak of on the range) and the staff can quite often be jerks. Save yourself the gas and the headache and just avoid it. Plus, I wouldn't want to have to get on I-225 if I could avoid it right now...


I'm not saying it's a great store, everything you wrote is true but if you're just wanting to look they have a pretty good selection and it's close to Denver.

If you're wanting to buy don't even waste your time and go directly to Jensens.
12/16/2010 2:19:56 PM EDT
[#11]
Jeez, Firing Line isn't that bad.  They have some pretty cool  stuff and haven't treated me as shitty as Jensens or Prairie Arms
Picked up a spikes lower there for $129 out the door. None of these other so called gun stores even had any lower. Just my 2 cents
12/16/2010 3:19:20 PM EDT
[#12]
Bought my first gun from them (S&W Sigma .40), the next time I was in to use their range, they laughed at the crappy gun I had...
12/16/2010 4:16:23 PM EDT
[#13]
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Bought my first gun from them (S&W Sigma .40), the next time I was in to use their range, they laughed at the crappy gun I had...


How did they even know what you had? I've shot there dozens of times I've never been asked or shown what I was shooting to anyone.

I can understand how a bad customer service experience would keep you from coming back. I hear nothing but praise for machine gun tours, yet it is one of the worst hole in the wall shops I've ever been to. Maybe it's a great place? I'll never waste the gas again to go find out.

12/16/2010 6:27:24 PM EDT
[#14]
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I don't have anything nice to say about machine gun tours. Tiny store, tiny inventory, they were more interested in story time than selling products, and prices were terrible.

YMMV


+1

Green mountain guns is a nice shop with decent prices, but no giant inventory of black rifles.
12/18/2010 8:29:41 AM EDT
[#15]
Firing line is got a lot better.  I went in their a few weeks ago and their prices are back to decent and the staff is not as bad as they once were.  Jensens and 5280 can kiss my crank with their bull shit ILLEGAL 3% charge on credit cards.  F*** them!
12/18/2010 10:32:18 AM EDT
[#16]
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Firing line is got a lot better.  I went in their a few weeks ago and their prices are back to decent and the staff is not as bad as they once were.  Jensens and 5280 can kiss my crank with their bull shit ILLEGAL 3% charge on credit cards.  F*** them!


exactly.  the best deals are always going to be online––i couldn't give two craps if jensens or 5280 closed tomorrow, frankly.

12/18/2010 12:27:23 PM EDT
[#17]
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Firing line is got a lot better.  I went in their a few weeks ago and their prices are back to decent and the staff is not as bad as they once were.  Jensens and 5280 can kiss my crank with their bull shit ILLEGAL 3% charge on credit cards.  F*** them!


Jensens is doing a 3% charge?  When did they start doing that?
12/18/2010 3:44:12 PM EDT
[#18]
Jensen's doesn't charge 3%.  Been going there over 6 years now.
12/18/2010 3:56:15 PM EDT
[#19]
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Firing line is got a lot better.  I went in their a few weeks ago and their prices are back to decent and the staff is not as bad as they once were.  Jensens and 5280 can kiss my crank with their bull shit ILLEGAL 3% charge on credit cards.  F*** them!


Jensens is doing a 3% charge?  When did they start doing that?


Jensens does not charge 3% on CC purchases. That's the most backwards shit ever, and 5280 is the only place that I'm aware of that does this. I would think that any reasonable business would realize it could make up the CC processing fees from making more sales by not turning off customers with this shady practice to begin with.
12/19/2010 12:41:17 AM EDT
[#20]
You guys are great thanks! What is fun to do at night? I have only driven through Denver once. Im up for anything but a hip hop crowd!
12/19/2010 5:44:52 AM EDT
[#21]
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You guys are great thanks! What is fun to do at night? I have only driven through Denver once. Im up for anything but a hip hop crowd!


5 points on the weekend.
12/19/2010 7:46:58 AM EDT
[#22]
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You guys are great thanks! What is fun to do at night? I have only driven through Denver once. Im up for anything but a hip hop crowd!


5 points on the weekend.


Don't do that!  (It's only funny when you get the joke)

LoDo is a good area to have a few drinks and a nice dinner.  Safe to walk around, lots of shops, bars, and restaurants.

There is some riff-raff on the 16th Street Mall, but I've never had a problem other than an agressive pan handler who wants to call me names because I won't subsidize his lifestyle.
12/19/2010 8:26:30 AM EDT
[#23]
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Firing line is got a lot better.  I went in their a few weeks ago and their prices are back to decent and the staff is not as bad as they once were.  Jensens and 5280 can kiss my crank with their bull shit ILLEGAL 3% charge on credit cards.  F*** them!


Jensens is doing a 3% charge?  When did they start doing that?


Jensens does not charge 3% on CC purchases. That's the most backwards shit ever, and 5280 is the only place that I'm aware of that does this. I would think that any reasonable business would realize it could make up the CC processing fees from making more sales by not turning off customers with this shady practice to begin with.



No, what is shady is the CC company forcing you to do business their way. If I as a business owner decide I want to give a 3% discount to my customers that pay cash, that is my business, not theirs. If I decide to take CC's to make it easier for my customers, and then charge them 3% to cover my increased costs, that again is my business.

But no, instead, they would force me to make everyone pay the increased costs. Everyone that pays cash should be pissed at the CC companies for pulling this crap.

12/19/2010 9:53:32 AM EDT
[#24]
Green Mountain Guns charged me the 3% for using a credit card. I didn't think it was a big deal as every other store does it. Plus, I put a gun onto a credit card, I ended up paying a heck of a lot more than that 3% for that purchase anyway after interest.
12/19/2010 6:04:01 PM EDT
[#25]
Tried to buy a Kimber Custom II from them off of gun broker and it is a 3% charge to do a CC.  CHeck their auctions, clear as day
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Jensen's doesn't charge 3%.  Been going there over 6 years now.


12/19/2010 6:06:04 PM EDT
[#26]
That was your choice to spend more in the long run like that.  I use my debit card or my credit card because I get rewards on both.  I will never pay interest on a gun.  If I use my credit card either I am getting 0% or I pay it off that same month
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Green Mountain Guns charged me the 3% for using a credit card. I didn't think it was a big deal as every other store does it. Plus, I put a gun onto a credit card, I ended up paying a heck of a lot more than that 3% for that purchase anyway after interest.


12/19/2010 6:16:51 PM EDT
[#27]
I rest my case
12/19/2010 7:38:20 PM EDT
[#28]
don't most sellers on gunbroker charge 3%?

Jensen's dosen't charge 3% at their storefront.
12/19/2010 9:47:59 PM EDT
[#29]
Jensens does not charge 3% at the store.
12/20/2010 4:51:19 AM EDT
[#30]
Just because most do it does not make it right.  I called them up on the auction I was looking at to see if they wouldn't charge me the 3% since I am local and they said everybody gets charged that with a CC.  Because of that I refuse to do business with them.  I found a place on gun broker that had the same gun for less with no 3%.
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don't most sellers on gunbroker charge 3%?

Jensen's dosen't charge 3% at their storefront.


12/20/2010 6:58:48 AM EDT
[#31]
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Jensens does not charge 3% at the store.


Interesting––yet their gunbroker listings aren't 3% cheaper than their store prices...
12/20/2010 6:59:22 AM EDT
[#32]
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Just because most do it does not make it right.  I called them up on the auction I was looking at to see if they wouldn't charge me the 3% since I am local and they said everybody gets charged that with a CC.  Because of that I refuse to do business with them.  I found a place on gun broker that had the same gun for less with no 3%.
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don't most sellers on gunbroker charge 3%?

Jensen's dosen't charge 3% at their storefront.




its not hard to find a better price than jensen's on gunbroker at all.
12/20/2010 9:19:38 AM EDT
[#33]
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don't most sellers on gunbroker charge 3%?

Jensen's dosen't charge 3% at their storefront.


Just because most do it does not make it right.  I called them up on the auction I was looking at to see if they wouldn't charge me the 3% since I am local and they said everybody gets charged that with a CC.  Because of that I refuse to do business with them.  I found a place on gun broker that had the same gun for less with no 3%.


Why don't you go buy it in person if you're local instead of being so difficult?

12/20/2010 12:28:51 PM EDT
[#34]
Why would I drive 120 miles and spend 3% to use my credit card?  How is that being difficult?
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don't most sellers on gunbroker charge 3%?

Jensen's dosen't charge 3% at their storefront.


Just because most do it does not make it right.  I called them up on the auction I was looking at to see if they wouldn't charge me the 3% since I am local and they said everybody gets charged that with a CC.  Because of that I refuse to do business with them.  I found a place on gun broker that had the same gun for less with no 3%.


Why don't you go buy it in person if you're local instead of being so difficult?



12/20/2010 12:41:50 PM EDT
[#35]
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Why would I drive 120 miles and spend 3% to use my credit card?  How is that being difficult?
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don't most sellers on gunbroker charge 3%?

Jensen's dosen't charge 3% at their storefront.


Just because most do it does not make it right.  I called them up on the auction I was looking at to see if they wouldn't charge me the 3% since I am local and they said everybody gets charged that with a CC.  Because of that I refuse to do business with them.  I found a place on gun broker that had the same gun for less with no 3%.


Why don't you go buy it in person if you're local instead of being so difficult?





right on––especially when you can find it cheaper online.
12/20/2010 3:36:29 PM EDT
[#36]
NO 3% on credit card for in-store purchases at Jensens.  If you are a local and you see a gun on gunbroker that you want,  just call first and they will hold it for you for pick up at the store.
12/20/2010 5:31:49 PM EDT
[#37]
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don't most sellers on gunbroker charge 3%?

Jensen's dosen't charge 3% at their storefront.


Just because most do it does not make it right.  I called them up on the auction I was looking at to see if they wouldn't charge me the 3% since I am local and they said everybody gets charged that with a CC.  Because of that I refuse to do business with them.  I found a place on gun broker that had the same gun for less with no 3%.


Why don't you go buy it in person if you're local instead of being so difficult?


Why would I drive 120 miles and spend 3% to use my credit card?  How is that being difficult?


Again, they do not charge 3% at the store. If you drove 120 miles to buy the gun in person they would not charge you an extra 3% if you used your card. I hope that's clear enough for you.


Shop there or don't, I don't fucking care. I'm sure they don't either. Since there's another guy here claiming he can find stuff cheaper on gunbroker why is this even an issue for you?
12/20/2010 6:55:58 PM EDT
[#38]
Feel like throwing fuel on the fire.

I for one would rather pay the 3% to 5280 or whoever else then go to Machine Gun Tours when they blatently talk shit about every gun shop in town.
Screw those guys. They will never see a dime of my money.

Tried talking to them also at a gun show a awhile back and they were completely unfriendly and no customer service what so ever.

5280 gets all my business and Bowers.
12/21/2010 5:33:39 AM EDT
[#39]
Well since you decided to throw some jabs out there can you not read?  I clearly said I found a gun they had on gun broker and asked them if I pick it up since I am local would they not charge the 3%?  They replied by telling me everybody pays the 3%.  I have never seen a grown man get all butt hurt when somebody has something negative about a gun store.  Regardless if it is a pick up or if they are shipping out of state they are doing business in the state of Colorado.  Colorado law very clearly states you cannot charge a fee or surcharge for using a credit card.  They are breaking the law, plain and simple.  I just came in here to give my opinion on two companies that knowingly break the law and feel they don't need to change anything.  Sorry that by me stating simple facts you got offended
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don't most sellers on gunbroker charge 3%?

Jensen's dosen't charge 3% at their storefront.


Just because most do it does not make it right.  I called them up on the auction I was looking at to see if they wouldn't charge me the 3% since I am local and they said everybody gets charged that with a CC.  Because of that I refuse to do business with them.  I found a place on gun broker that had the same gun for less with no 3%.


Why don't you go buy it in person if you're local instead of being so difficult?


Why would I drive 120 miles and spend 3% to use my credit card?  How is that being difficult?


Again, they do not charge 3% at the store. If you drove 120 miles to buy the gun in person they would not charge you an extra 3% if you used your card. I hope that's clear enough for you.


Shop there or don't, I don't fucking care. I'm sure they don't either. Since there's another guy here claiming he can find stuff cheaper on gunbroker why is this even an issue for you?


12/21/2010 9:26:51 AM EDT
[#40]
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don't most sellers on gunbroker charge 3%?

Jensen's dosen't charge 3% at their storefront.


Just because most do it does not make it right.  I called them up on the auction I was looking at to see if they wouldn't charge me the 3% since I am local and they said everybody gets charged that with a CC.  Because of that I refuse to do business with them.  I found a place on gun broker that had the same gun for less with no 3%.


Why don't you go buy it in person if you're local instead of being so difficult?


Why would I drive 120 miles and spend 3% to use my credit card?  How is that being difficult?


Again, they do not charge 3% at the store. If you drove 120 miles to buy the gun in person they would not charge you an extra 3% if you used your card. I hope that's clear enough for you.


Shop there or don't, I don't fucking care. I'm sure they don't either. Since there's another guy here claiming he can find stuff cheaper on gunbroker why is this even an issue for you?

Well since you decided to throw some jabs out there can you not read?  I clearly said I found a gun they had on gun broker and asked them if I pick it up since I am local would they not charge the 3%?  They replied by telling me everybody pays the 3%.  I have never seen a grown man get all butt hurt when somebody has something negative about a gun store.  Regardless if it is a pick up or if they are shipping out of state they are doing business in the state of Colorado.  Colorado law very clearly states you cannot charge a fee or surcharge for using a credit card.  They are breaking the law, plain and simple.  I just came in here to give my opinion on two companies that knowingly break the law and feel they don't need to change anything.  Sorry that by me stating simple facts you got offended


How many people here have told you they don't charge 3%?
12/21/2010 9:53:56 AM EDT
[#41]
im looking at a receipt from jensens right now.  the price is the i price that the item was marked. plus the loveland sales tax. no 3% added.

here is what i says on the auction. auctions, not the in store policy.

Acceptable Methods of Payment:

Money Order, Certified check.
Visa, Mastercard, Discover add 3%.
Have your dealer fax or email a copy of their FFL referencing your name and auction number to us. We cannot ship without that. Call/fax/email your Credit Card #, exp date, and 3 digit code, or send Cashiers ck or money order, including shipping
Jensens and Bear Arms in Windsor. both good to go.
12/21/2010 11:16:13 AM EDT
[#42]
Let's all just take a dose of calming down.  We're supposed to be on the same side here, aren't we?  

Obviously a miscommunication––Jensen's is still going to stick a local pickup with 3% on the CC's, but their auctions are so ridiculous you can walk in the store and pay the same price.  Or, again, shop mostly anywhere on gunbroker and auctionarms and beat their prices.  

12/21/2010 3:15:45 PM EDT
[#43]
I will concur (from two visits in the last week) that Jensen's doesn't tack on a 3% charge at their brick and mortar location. Bottom line, they have a great selection at reasonable prices.  They've also done a 180 as far as customer service is concerned (over years previous), people remember you and are much more friendly and knowledgable now.  

I'm not saying you can't find better prices online, but its nice to have a retail location nearby I can go pick something up if I want it that badly, or even see it in person.  

Last note, for you guys doing lots of transfers, they will run yours "free of charge" if you spend $50 on site.  Food for though for whoever the guy was that spent $130 on a stripped lower when you could've done it for 80 shipping included and had $50 worth of whathaveyou to boot.

Happy Shootin!
12/21/2010 4:01:24 PM EDT
[#44]
Still there does not seem to be an explanation for why Jensen's is violating Colorado law regarding surcharges for credit cards.  That it is a website auction site does not exempt them from the law.
12/22/2010 8:35:32 PM EDT
[#45]
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Still there does not seem to be an explanation for why Jensen's is violating Colorado law regarding surcharges for credit cards.  That it is a website auction site does not exempt them from the law.


Piss on the law, I just renewed my registration at the clerks office and they charged me 2.7% to use my Visa Debit card. Not to mention the state charged me extra to use my credit card to renew my DL last month.

Show me the law and where it exempts the gov't .
12/23/2010 6:02:52 AM EDT
[#46]

its semantics.  they are not charging extra to use your card. they just have the cash price listed. because they give a discount for cash.  who knows they dont charge it in the store. lovelands tax is cheaper than most cities in the state, their selection is good. most laws governing business are bullshit. this is one. if it costs more to do business, then pass it on, if the market will bear it.  most of you when you sell something online you say paypal +4%. whats the difference. even if Jensens did charge 3% more, you would still pay less than most other locations because the tax is  almost 3% less than many cities on the front range.

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Still there does not seem to be an explanation for why Jensen's is violating Colorado law regarding surcharges for credit cards.  That it is a website auction site does not exempt them from the law.


12/25/2010 6:22:51 AM EDT
[#47]
Funny you should say that because part of the law says it is okay for the government to do it.  
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Still there does not seem to be an explanation for why Jensen's is violating Colorado law regarding surcharges for credit cards.  That it is a website auction site does not exempt them from the law.


Piss on the law, I just renewed my registration at the clerks office and they charged me 2.7% to use my Visa Debit card. Not to mention the state charged me extra to use my credit card to renew my DL last month.

Show me the law and where it exempts the gov't .


12/26/2010 6:55:58 PM EDT
[#48]
I am sick and tired of the gov't not having to abide by the same laws that we have to follow.

This crap has to stop.


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Funny you should say that because part of the law says it is okay for the government to do it.  
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Still there does not seem to be an explanation for why Jensen's is violating Colorado law regarding surcharges for credit cards.  That it is a website auction site does not exempt them from the law.


Piss on the law, I just renewed my registration at the clerks office and they charged me 2.7% to use my Visa Debit card. Not to mention the state charged me extra to use my credit card to renew my DL last month.

Show me the law and where it exempts the gov't .




12/27/2010 9:47:48 PM EDT
[#49]
Jensen Arms, Loveland. Nice city, to boot. You will not find a better selection or better prices in any other gun shop in CO.
12/29/2010 10:23:22 AM EDT
[#50]
Trigger time at 119 and I25 has beefed up their store. They have some nice items.
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