Posted: 1/30/2010 12:04:20 PM EDT
| Does anyone know if having a medical marijuana card will prevent you from getting a CCW permit? |
| I think it would prevent you from truthfully answering "no" on the 4473 question about being an unlawful user of mary jane, etc.. While we may have a med law here in CO, the feds still consider it a crime. Answering"no" and having a med card would probably be considered a violation by the BATFE. I think the same type of situation may occur on an application for a CCW, however, it has been years since I filled mine out. |
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question number 8 on the Weld County Sherrif's Office Concealed Handgun Permit Aplication states:
question 8 are you and unlawful user of, OR addicted to, marijuana, or any depressant, stimulant, or narcotic drug, or any other controlled susbstance? i am not sure how you define addicted, but I think the LEO community might think having a medical card was addicted. |
| I thought the federal forms etc would be out. But was not sure about local county background checks. And if having the card would flag someone as addicted. I guess that would be up to the discretion of the sheriff. And if they would deem it unlawful. I have my permit so I am not worried about it. I don't think smoking some MJ and drinking while CCWing is any different. Both are bad ideas. |
You would risk committing pergery from answering "NO" on your application (a legal document). The MMJ records are pretty locked up (just what I've heard) apparently they are on a single computer down in Denver. This all coming from sources that weren't the most credible, but I've heard it from multiple less-than-credible sources...
When it comes down to it...the Feds win. I guess you could call up the main processing desk for CCW and ask....I mean...there are apparently 70,000 applicants now, so I'm sure this has been asked before. |
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luckily no alcoholics have CCW permits! exactly... Yes, it's all the same. Someone, somewhere did something wrong so that excuses whatever you want to do. Soon the sheriffs will need to cross reference CCW applications against MMJ and vice-versa. It people like this that almost beg for Big Brother to regulate every area of our lives... |
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luckily no alcoholics have CCW permits! exactly... Yes, it's all the same. Someone, somewhere did something wrong so that excuses whatever you want to do. Soon the sheriffs will need to cross reference CCW applications against MMJ and vice-versa. It people like this that almost beg for Big Brother to regulate every area of our lives... I don't think anyone is trying to justify or excuse anyone's behavior. Likely there are alcoholics, MMJ users and those addicted to prescription drugs that have and will be issued CCW permits. I for one certainly don't want any more government in my life. It would be much better if we were not forced to get a permit to legally CCW. I originally posted the question out of curiosity. And wondered if anyone here had any experience with the MMJ and CCW issue. I have a friend who I has a MMJ card. Recently I got him into shooting. And he realized that protecting himself and his family is more important than the MMJ card. When it lapses he is going to apply for a CCW permit. I think if MMJ can be used as an alternative to prescription narcotics then great. Most of the people I have met that have a MMJ card are 25-30 and seem healthy to me. But I would not deny anyone who truly needed it access to MMJ. |
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Most of the people I have met that have a MMJ card are 25-30 and seem healthy to me. But I would not deny anyone who truly needed it access to MMJ. That has been my experience as well which makes one marvel at how quickly "medical" was used a foothold for general use––which is still illegal and the voters never supported. Quoted:
And he realized that protecting himself and his family is more important than the MMJ card Sounds like a values crises. I had that realization at 16 along with other things I wanted to do in life... |
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hum smoking pot and having a ccw. Not a good idea +87. The problem is, even if you are 100% legal to smoke weed, if you ever have to blast some one, the DA is going to fry your ass, and turn you into some giant drug dealing murder, etc etc etc. Agreed. would be made a example of I'm sure. |
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I think we are overlooking the big picture. There is a tragedy happening here. The fact that so many young people are suffering with dabilitating disease, and chronic pain. OH the humanity! What kind of people are we that we have let so many suffer for so long?
I could care less if they legalize marijuana accros the board. I have never seen or used marijuana. I dont plan to start. But, what I hate is this stupid charade of "medical" licensing. That is ridiculous. yes, i know there are actual medicinal uses. but, we all know that 99.9% of these people only use itfor recreational purposes, and no medicinal. So legalize it for everyone. Or get rid of the non stop spamming on craigslist by the "caring, loving, compassionate caregivers". i never thought a day would come where non stop dope dealers advertized. unreal. |
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This guy failed the 4473 for having the marijuana card... http://anewscafe.com/2010/02/03/medical-marijuana-and-the-2nd-amendment/ So I thought this was interesting: The question states: “Are you an unlawful user of or addicted to marijuana, a depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?” Well then...answer the truth, "no" you are not an "unlawful" user. You are following the state laws. Anyone else see this? I'm thinking because of the wording purgery would even be hard to get stuck with. oh yeah..I'm not a lawyer, take what I say with a grain of salt
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I think we are overlooking the big picture. There is a tragedy happening here. The fact that so many young people are suffering with dabilitating disease, and chronic pain. OH the humanity! What kind of people are we that we have let so many suffer for so long? So wait till this is all covered by Obamacare. This is to help the children right? yes, i know there are actual medicinal uses. but, we all know that 99.9% of these people only use itfor recreational purposes, and no medicinal. So legalize it for everyone. Or get rid of the non stop spamming on craigslist by the "caring, loving, compassionate caregivers". i never thought a day would come where non stop dope dealers advertized. unreal. I've known people on Chemo who benefited from its use. So, that's why I voted for it. However, the ploy for needing it because of all the "pain" was not want the voters wanted. And if it is a "medicine", how come its not at Walgreens? And shouldn't it be .gov monitored and controlled (just like other prescription drugs?), since what if you get some bad stuff? Also, have you driven through downtown Loveland on a weekend? You should see all the guys on the siidewalk with signs  for all the "dispensories". Do you really need to advertise on the street? It's like...OH... Luck there, I'm in pain, and I need to stop by. How very considerate of this folks to let me know about thier store. 
Back to the orginal question. With my tin foil hat on  Do you really think that the .gov will ever only keep "one" set of records and that they won't use it against you down the line? Just as pointed out, oh.. you are a mmj user, sorry you can not longer have any firearms. It's for the good of the people. Just something to think about.
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And if it is a "medicine", how come its not at Walgreens?
Because the DEA doesn't recognize it as a medicine. Pharmacies that sell controlled substances need to be licensed by the DEA to do so. If the store is caught selling something that DEA says is illegal for them to sell, then their controlled substance license goes away. The reason that the dispensaries aren't squeezed the same way is because Barry O decided that prosecuting MMJ sellers who comply with state laws is not a priority, and the rest of the executive branch (meaning DEA and the US Attorneys) all work for him. Notice that it took the Ascention of the Most Holy Obamessiah to the White Palace in the Sky, for all of the dispensaries to pop up? DEA was still enforcing federal MJ laws under the previous president. |