[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Next AK Build Party (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/21/2008 9:10:04 PM EDT
| The last one was a hit. Who's up for another? |
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Count me in.
Silly me, I bought an RPK kit without learning about them. The receiver I pressed won't work so I gotta order one from NDS for that build and then find a regular parts kit so AKM receiver doesn't umm, go to waste. 
I have a better idea what I'm doing so now I can do a build that doesn't look like Curious George got into the liquor cabinet. |
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Count me in. Silly me, I bought an RPK kit without learning about them. The receiver I pressed won't work so I gotta order one from NDS for that build and then find a regular parts kit so AKM receiver doesn't umm, go to waste.
I have a better idea what I'm doing so now I can do a build that doesn't look like Curious George got into the liquor cabinet. Knogman, there is an 80% solution to that build. |
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Count me in. Silly me, I bought an RPK kit without learning about them. The receiver I pressed won't work so I gotta order one from NDS for that build and then find a regular parts kit so AKM receiver doesn't umm, go to waste.
I have a better idea what I'm doing so now I can do a build that doesn't look like Curious George got into the liquor cabinet. Knogman, there is an 80% solution to that build. I already sent off an order to NDS for a complete RPK receiver. The minus is that it cost more but the plus is that it's an NDS receiver and NDS will throw in a FCG set. The parts look way better than my Romy grade C kit but the bore isn't as good. I got really lucky with that kit. I wonder if I should order one of those AKM kits with the chopped barrel for the AKM receiver I already have. How hard is it to find a US made barrel? I don't think anyone makes one at this moment. |
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A stamped M-70 can be built off a flat but the Yugos used a 1.6mm thick flat instead of 1mm like in the AKM.
Here's the Yugo flat: Yugo Underfolder Flat and a regular flat: Regular AKM Flat You can see that the front trunnion area on the Yugo flat is different; it probably needs a special bending jig. |
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well if i can score 2 yugo M70 kits i'm in Not sure but try Apex. There's some M70 underfolder kits here: M70 UF Kit |
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I would be 100% up for one of these: problems: I don't have an AK kit or a receiver and I don't know how to build them whatsoever. I really want a M70. would like to get an all black underfolder but wood foregrips would be okay as long as it is an underfolder. please let me know what I need, what the cost is going to look like, if you guys would be willing to show an AK noob how to build one and also when the build party would be. thanks guys! |
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Well, I'm in as long as someone has the jigs for either an M70 or a Tantal. I can bring propane for the grill and the park tank, a few bucks for park chemicals or drill bits, and some junk food.
Hell, there's a Tantal bending jig on the EE for $185 shipped. Anybody want to split it 3-4 ways? ETA: Anywhere in Denver in late January works for me. |
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Well, I'm in as long as someone has the jigs for either an M70 or a Tantal. I can bring propane for the grill and the park tank, a few bucks for park chemicals or drill bits, and some junk food. Hell, there's a Tantal bending jig on the EE for $185 shipped. Anybody want to split it 3-4 ways? ETA: Anywhere in Denver in late January works for me. We have bent AK builder flats for Tantals on the regular bending jig. I am not sure what the mods that were do to the jig to make it for Tantals? |
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Here's a good link to learn about basic AK building:
Soup to Nuts AK Building Guide I didn't have any AK building experience or metal working experience on my first build either. |
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can anybody help out on where kits are in stock as well as receivers for a M70 yugo underfolder? 100% complete receivers, 80% complete flats, 80% pre-bent receivers? Like I said in a prior post....I HAVE NO IDEA I just want to be able to build a M70 YUGO underfolder. whats the difference, cost wise and skill level wise? |
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Here's a good link to learn about basic AK building: Soup to Nuts AK Building Guide I didn't have any AK building experience or metal working experience on my first build either. thanks, Ill read it |
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can anybody help out on where kits are in stock as well as receivers for a M70 yugo underfolder? 100% complete receivers, 80% complete flats, 80% pre-bent receivers? Like I said in a prior post....I HAVE NO IDEA I just want to be able to build a M70 YUGO underfolder. whats the difference, cost wise and skill level wise? The 100% (I would recomend Nodak Spuds) Pros: are the fastest less problematic way to build an AK. With limited tools and a de-milled kit you can build something that you can take to the range that afternoon of a build party. Cons: have to be transfered though a FFL. Cost more. http://www.nodakspud.com/page2.htm NDS-4 at $85 The 80% flat (Tapco) Pros: Not run through an FFL. Least expensive receiver Cons: One was ran though the regular jig at the last build party and I have not heard feedback as to how that one went. It may work, but it really requires a jig that is not common and I know of only one in the Springs and I am not sure it I can get it on loan to us...If there is enough interest I can check into it. http://www.copesdistributing.net/product_info.php?cPath=32_34&products_id=383 Tapco $29 The 80% prebent (ColdSteelSolutions) Pros: Not run through a FFL. Can by built with out a bending jig Cons: There is a 3-6 week back log on these. A little more money than the flat but still a lot less than the 100%. Probably the most labor intensive solution. http://shop.coldsteelsolutionsincorporated.ieasysite.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=YUU064 cold Steel Solutions $40. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: can anybody help out on where kits are in stock as well as receivers for a M70 yugo underfolder? 100% complete receivers, 80% complete flats, 80% pre-bent receivers? Like I said in a prior post....I HAVE NO IDEA I just want to be able to build a M70 YUGO underfolder. whats the difference, cost wise and skill level wise? The 100% (I would recomend Nodak Spuds) Pros: are the fastest less problematic way to build an AK. With limited tools and a de-milled kit you can build something that you can take to the range that afternoon of a build party. Cons: have to be transfered though a FFL. Cost more. http://www.nodakspud.com/page2.htm NDS-4 at $85 The 80% flat (Tapco) Pros: Not run through an FFL. Least expensive receiver Cons: One was ran though the regular jig at the last build party and I have not heard feedback as to how that one went. It may work, but it really requires a jig that is not common and I know of only one in the Springs and I am not sure it I can get it on loan to us...If there is enough interest I can check into it. http://www.copesdistributing.net/product_info.php?cPath=32_34&products_id=383 Tapco $29 The 80% prebent (ColdSteelSolutions) Pros: Not run through a FFL. Can by built with out a bending jig Cons: There is a 3-6 week back log on these. A little more money than the flat but still a lot less than the 100%. Probably the most labor intensive solution. http://shop.coldsteelsolutionsincorporated.ieasysite.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=YUU064 cold Steel Solutions $40. Depending on when the build party will take place, the coldsteelsolutions looks like the way to go. If anything, I could order it now and wait till the next build party. I don't mind paying the extra money for the novak spuds receiver either if it will end up being less problematic. I guess next thing is: Is the link for the M70 yugo underfolder kits the one that will fit these receivers? Are they still available at that price, or does anybody have one for sale locally? I appreciate the help. |
| You are loooking for a "matching" parts kit for a "stamped" receiver. The kit listed by Kong will work. Not sure if any locally are available. I would also try to call Apex. They will sometime list kits listed as out of stock if they are getting low on them (to make sure that they are not going to "over sell" there inventory. |
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Quoted: You are loooking for a "matching" parts kit for a "stamped" receiver. The kit listed by Kong will work. Not sure if any locally are available. I would also try to call Apex. They will sometime list kits listed as out of stock if they are getting low on them (to make sure that they are not going to "over sell" there inventory. okay, I will try calling them tomorrow. those receivers will allow me to build the underfolder that I want, correct? I have a couple AKs already but the romanian ones and they are nice since I refinished the wood and cleaned them up, but I would like something a bit better. I can tell the quality isn't as high as most AKs. thanks and I'll see what I can put together. at the build party's, are there the riveting machines (or whatever you need) and any other tools necessary to build one of these up, or am I looking at buying some tools as well? |
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those receivers will allow me to build the underfolder that I want, correct? at the build party's, are there the riveting machines (or whatever you need) and any other tools necessary to build one of these up, or am I looking at buying some tools as well? Yes with a bunch of work it will build an underfolder. Like I said, the cold steel solutions is the solution that takes the most work. None of the holes are drilled into the receiver. It is a shell only. An underfolder is the most difficult build (compaired to your Romy's for example), specifically in the area of the rear trunnion, there are multiple holes to be located and drilled. If you are really good with hand tools it is time consuming, but do-able. The Nodak receivers are top knotch if you have never built an AK before and you are looking for something special in this build then I would go that way. |
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those receivers will allow me to build the underfolder that I want, correct? at the build party's, are there the riveting machines (or whatever you need) and any other tools necessary to build one of these up, or am I looking at buying some tools as well? Yes with a bunch of work it will build an underfolder. Like I said, the cold steel solutions is the solution that takes the most work. None of the holes are drilled into the receiver. It is a shell only. An underfolder is the most difficult build (compaired to your Romy's for example), specifically in the area of the rear trunnion, there are multiple holes to be located and drilled. If you are really good with hand tools it is time consuming, but do-able. The Nodak receivers are top knotch if you have never built an AK before and you are looking for something special in this build then I would go that way. sounds good, you conviced me on the nodak nds-4 I will go with that and will call around about the parts kits. Is there anything extra I am going to need, like US grips or triggers or springs etc, or maybe the rivets or small parts like that? |
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Tools are covered within the group. You will need:
1. a rivet set 2. 5 additional compliance parts (your receiver counts as one) I am built several AKs and helped others build many more. I got a hold of really nice fixed stock Yugo kit in super condition. I could have went any of the above mentioned routes but decided in the end that I wanted this one to be special. I went with the Nodak receiver and as I wanted to keep this looking like a real Yugo I chose compliance parts to keep the weapon looking correct on the outside. I picked the receiver (1), FCG (3), Gas piston (1), slant break (1). If you don't care about that but would like it to look new then you could substitute the grip (1) and the upper and lower hand guards (1) (U.S. made wood from Ironwood designs) for the gas piston and the break. |
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colorado gun sales: can I go to the store and buy straight from them. they are very close to my house. I have no idea. I just received via mail a new Romy AK barrel from them. They're not close to where I live so time and gas wise I didn't even think of going. ETA: I suppose I could have taken the 1 hr drive to go there but I think they're mail order only. Their website doesn't list store hours or any location other than a PO box. |
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Quoted: Tools are covered within the group. You will need: 1. a rivet set 2. 5 additional compliance parts (your receiver counts as one) I am built several AKs and helped others build many more. I got a hold of really nice fixed stock Yugo kit in super condition. I could have went any of the above mentioned routes but decided in the end that I wanted this one to be special. I went with the Nodak receiver and as I wanted to keep this looking like a real Yugo I chose compliance parts to keep the weapon looking correct on the outside. I picked the receiver (1), FCG (3), Gas piston (1), slant break (1). If you don't care about that but would like it to look new then you could substitute the grip (1) and the upper and lower hand guards (1) (U.S. made wood from Ironwood designs) for the gas piston and the break. sounds good to me. I will try to find those or see if they have them when i get the parts kit. |
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Gunthings has G- kits they are a little on the pricy side but I have it from a relilable source that they are nice.
http://www.gunthings.com/ |
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How about Feb 7th? HKOrion, are you up to host again? We're working on it - just not sure when I'll be able to host it. Have some things going on that are taking precedence right now. Look for a note here, probably late Jan / Early Feb if we can get some things figured out. hkOrion |
| I am interested in building an AK. No prior experience, so I have to figure out what I need to get prior to showing up. How much money am I looking at to have a fully functioning AK at the end of the day? Not looking for anything special on my first try. Just a run-of-the-mill AK. |
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Quoted: I am interested in building an AK. No prior experience, so I have to figure out what I need to get prior to showing up. How much money am I looking at to have a fully functioning AK at the end of the day? Not looking for anything special on my first try. Just a run-of-the-mill AK. after my searching right now you are looking at a minimum of $400 |
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Most likely the party will be for guys that have already started a build, or want to prep for refinishing (blasting cabinet to prep for park/norrels/alumahyde/etc).
Sorry for the guys that want to start new builds, I don't think it's in the cards for this one. We're still working out the details though. |
| The build party's around here are usually every couple of months. Usually down in the Springs, because that's where the guys with all the jigs, presses, etc. live. We (LonghunterCo and I) put one on in Littleton in November and it went really smooth. Still looking at the schedule for another one up here, then probably a couple more this year just down in the Springs. It's really up to whoever wants to host it. If you've got a location and are willing, contact LonghunterCO or myself for who has the jigs, presses, welder, etc. |