Posted: 1/17/2007 8:40:06 PM EDT
| I will be coming to Denver to work for about a week or two in Feb. I have a non-resident permit from Utah, which I think will allow me to carry during my visit. Is there any advice that anyone has for me ? I looked at your A.G's Website, but didn't give any off-limit places. |
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Schools, colleges, and universities are off-limits, unless you're inside your car.Link to CRS 18-12-105.5 So are public buildings with electronic screening at all entrancesLink to CRS 18-12-214 There's been a lot of back-and-forth here about what legal meaning the "No firearms allowed" signs on private businesses have. Some say that it's illegal CCW to violate one, and others say that you can only be ordered to leave if discovered and charged with trespassing if you don't. I don't think there's been any case law yet. |
Not to give you a bad time, but i believe the ccw law of 2003 supersedes that link. You CAN carry in a college/university in Colorado, though not K-12 schools. The only real off limit places are court houses, anywhere that has pat downs/electronic screening, and K-12 schools. Bars, public gathering, churces, etc, are all 100% legal to carry in/at. To the orginal poster, utah permit is 100% kosher here. There's nothing really special you need to do here when carrying, its a lot like Utah in that aspect (I hold both Utah and CO permits). |
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Utah is good. Reciprocity for Colorado I don't figure the campus thing will matter to you. But, as a recent CU grad, I can tell you that the campus is a no carry zone. At least according to the regents. Students would be expelled. I don't know if non-students would get arrested or not. Campus carry ETA: I just looked it up out of curiosity, and found that the 2003 law does allow it according to the text of SB 24. However the revised Colorado statues through July 10, 2006 still have the language banning carry on public or private universities. Anyone have input here? Its in CRS 18-12-105.5 ETAA: Found it, its in subsection d and d.5 of 18-12-105.5 that allows us. It's THIS that disallows us. Also, anyone know about carry in Bars/pubs? |
What would concern me is that 18-12-105.5 wasn't actually repealed. I'd hate to be a test case, and especially where the major campuses in question are in Denver or Boulder. As far as bars/pubs: Nothing specifically naming them that I could find. However, there is a state law against possessing a firearm while intoxicated (I forgot the exact wording) and "intoxicated" isn't defined exactly. However, I remember hearing something about the threshold here was much lower than that for DUI. I personally go with either no weapons at all or no alcohol at all, but I'm a little cautious about such things. I think that's why my favorite pub is called "Centrarchidae's Back Yard." |
Colorado does not recognize Utah CCW permits. The reason is because Utah gives a permit for "Concealed Carry Weapons" and Colorado gives out "Concealed Carry Handgun Permits" The difference is that Colorado's permit only allows handguns. Utah's permit allows items classified as 'weapons' which may be knives over 4 inches, concealed shotguns, throwing stars, Nun-Chukas, etc...these items are not allowed with Colorado CCP. This was revised to the above outline in May 2003. Utah will accept Colorado CCP, but Colorado does not 100% accept Utah CCW permits because of the different classifications of permits between the two states. You can, however, call the county sheriff's office where you will be staying and ask them to accept it. It is up to the local sheriff if they want to accept Utah. If they say it is ok, get a name, rank/position and ask that they fax/send you a letter stating that you may use your Utah permit to carry only a concealed handgun as outlined in Colorado Statute. Also, ask them to have the letter signed either by the Sheriff or his/her designee. Check this out: www.co.arapahoe.co.us/Departments/SH/documents/CCWInfoPack.pdf Part of it is specific to Arapahoe County, but most of it restates Colorado law when it comes to a CCP. Hope that helps. |
What is your source for this? Both CBI and Utah BCI websites specifically state reciprocity between Utah and Colorado. Also, my Utah non-res permit does not state "Concealed Carry Weapons", but "Concealed Firearm Permit". |
I just took one of the state's best recommended CCP classes this past Saturday. The instructor told me this and that the law had changed since posted on CBI's website. I would call the sheriff's office where you will be visiting just to make sure. Though, I do see where it shows this on the website...but if you are arrested, do you want to quote a website, or the law? Perhaps he was mistaken, however...but... |