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Posted: 2/26/2023 9:53:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Form 1 submitted 01/24/2023 was just approved. So there is hope there. I also submitted one on 1/24 (paid) and was approved today by "The Ripper". So yeah, it took longer than the last ones but not a crazy amount longer. I still think if you submit now, if SBR's end up being banned you still have a chance of getting approved before 1240 gets signed by Dimslee. |
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Posted: 2/26/2023 10:33:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Sounds like paid eform 1 have a better chance of being approved faster than the amnesty ones?
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Posted: 2/26/2023 10:50:11 PM EDT
[#3]
I submitted both a paid and an amnesty form 1 on 1/18 and have gotten nothing yet
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Posted: 2/26/2023 11:08:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like paid eform 1 have a better chance of being approved faster than the amnesty ones? Another factor is that the tax-free ones are “approved with conditions” as part of the brace rule. What happens if the brace rule is struck down? |
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Posted: 2/26/2023 11:36:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Submitted 1/19 free eform, nothing yet.
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Posted: 2/27/2023 12:20:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Another factor is that the tax-free ones are “approved with conditions” as part of the brace rule. What happens if the brace rule is struck down? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sounds like paid eform 1 have a better chance of being approved faster than the amnesty ones? Another factor is that the tax-free ones are “approved with conditions” as part of the brace rule. What happens if the brace rule is struck down? What are the conditions? |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 1:13:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are the conditions? IIRC “2021R-08F” is in the conditions box. This was discussed in the GD brace rule thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Pistol-brace-rule-signed-officially-published-1-31-23-/5-2616053/ BTW, another paid Form 1 submitted on 01/28 was approved this morning. This is actually the one that I goofed on. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 10:21:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IIRC “2021R-08F” is in the conditions box. This was discussed in the GD brace rule thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Pistol-brace-rule-signed-officially-published-1-31-23-/5-2616053/ BTW, another paid Form 1 submitted on 01/28 was approved this morning. This is actually the one that I goofed on. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What are the conditions? IIRC “2021R-08F” is in the conditions box. This was discussed in the GD brace rule thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Pistol-brace-rule-signed-officially-published-1-31-23-/5-2616053/ BTW, another paid Form 1 submitted on 01/28 was approved this morning. This is actually the one that I goofed on. 2 of the 3 I submitted on 1/13 are approved, one by Carol and the other by a scribble of a name. My buddy had his approved that were submitted on 1/24 and 1/28 Hoping my other 1/13 submission shows up and my 2/2 submissions don't go in the same hole. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 10:52:26 PM EDT
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Just submitted mine today
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Posted: 2/28/2023 1:05:42 PM EDT
[#10]
Anyone try for an amnesty trust Form 1 yet?
I wasn't going to play, but looking at 5+ free tax stamps would be cool if I can add them to my trust. |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 5:13:34 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone try for an amnesty trust Form 1 yet? I wasn't going to play, but looking at 5+ free tax stamps would be cool if I can add them to my trust. I haven't watched it, but this sounds relevant to your interests.  Amnesty Registration Through a Gun Trust and Why It's Nearly Impossible. |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 8:53:28 PM EDT
[#12]
Thanks!
I saw that video, was hoping there would be a couple more people who have tried by now. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 2:10:37 PM EDT
[#13]
Form 1 submitted 01/24/2023 approved today, 03/01/2023.
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Posted: 3/1/2023 11:04:51 PM EDT
[#14]
I just did 4 form ones yesterday 2/28/23. The wait begins.
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Posted: 3/2/2023 2:46:16 AM EDT
[#15]
Both of my form 1s through silencershop were disapproved today :(. It was an error on their part but now I’m waiting to start over again (I had submitted on 1/30). I hope I make it, but not very optimistic now.
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Posted: 3/2/2023 2:49:42 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Both of my form 1s through silencershop were disapproved today :(. It was an error on their part but now I’m waiting to start over again (I had submitted on 1/30). I hope I make it, but not very optimistic now. Wow, why were they disapproved? |
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Posted: 3/2/2023 3:06:26 AM EDT
[#17]
They forgot to put my trust name in section 2 of form 23 and only put the address.
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Posted: 3/2/2023 3:19:31 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They forgot to put my trust name in section 2 of form 23 and only put the address. Oy, that's really frustrating. All three of my SS Form 1s went through just fine. |
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Posted: 3/2/2023 12:06:24 PM EDT
[#19]
You guys are paying ss to do your form 1's? It takes only a couple minutes to do yourself on eforms, and you can make sure it's done right the first time
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Posted: 3/2/2023 1:52:16 PM EDT
[#20]
I paid because they already had my fingerprints from a form 4 I did with them a few years ago. It *was* mostly painless except for that omission.
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Posted: 3/2/2023 4:20:40 PM EDT
[#21]
I've used them because I don't want to deal with getting all the RP's on my trust printed and photographed. So much easier to pay them $5.
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Posted: 3/2/2023 4:25:32 PM EDT
[#22]
We did because it was our first time doing a Form 1 and they have our fingerprints on file. We have our own EFT files now though.
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Posted: 3/3/2023 12:15:56 PM EDT
[#23]
Form 1 submitted 02/06/2023 approved today, 03/03/2023. (Our last pending F1 application)
This one was NOT via the SS portal. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 3:13:47 PM EDT
[#24]
2 more Feb 2nd stamps approved today by "The Ripper"
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Posted: 3/3/2023 5:46:16 PM EDT
[#25]
Has anyone seen a amnesty stamp approved yet?
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Posted: 3/3/2023 6:08:43 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Has anyone seen an amnesty stamp approved yet? Yes, check this thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/EForm-1-Tracking-Thread-DO-NOT-POST-before-reading-the-rules-in-OP/17-494992/ NOTE: That thread is only for reporting processed applications, not discussions. Also the tax exempt Form 1s don’t get stamps since the tax was waived. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 6:14:08 PM EDT
[#27]
Thanx
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Posted: 3/9/2023 10:54:04 PM EDT
[#28]
I submitted 1/19 paper prints and was approved today. Efile question on amnesty stamp, is there a reason i don't see an electronic stamp on the approved paperwork? I have tried it on my PC and different PDF editors?
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Posted: 3/9/2023 11:01:10 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I submitted 1/19 paper prints and was approved today. Efile question on amnesty stamp, is there a reason i don't see an electronic stamp on the approved paperwork? I have tried it on my PC and different PDF editors? There's no stamp because you didn't pay for one |
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Posted: 3/9/2023 11:08:03 PM EDT
[#30]
Thanx, never saw that before.
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Posted: 3/9/2023 11:12:41 PM EDT
[#31]
Threw one in today since I just got an ETF file to apply for a can on a Form 4. Makes the process much easier, for however long we're able to do so.
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Posted: 3/15/2023 8:31:34 PM EDT
[#32]
Two paid eform 1s with EFTs were approved 3/15 by Carol Ripley. One was submitted on 1/20 and one was submitted on 2/2. Still no word on the amnesty one from 1/20. Might submit a few more today...
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Posted: 3/15/2023 9:54:20 PM EDT
[#33]
I have a couple now at 56 days and counting
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:25:38 AM EDT
[#34]
Damn, they're just coming back slower and slower.
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:33:12 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn, they're just coming back slower and slower. I'm totally sure it's just a coincidence. Totally. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 1:51:41 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a couple now at 56 days and counting Well my EForm 4 SBR is at 261 days today. Don’t know if I’m going to make it under the wire or not. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 2:17:19 PM EDT
[#37]
Interesting. Mr. Kirk seems to think that there is a case to argue that amnesty Form 1s might still be approved after an AWB:
 How Would Washington's Assault Weapon Ban Effect My Amnesty Registration? This goes along with GreenMushroom’s thoughts on P1 |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 2:44:32 PM EDT
[#38]
For what it’s worth, I called the ATF/NFA branch and spoke to a supervisor. She said as soon as a state law is enacted, they will deny any pending transfers.
IMHO, at that point you would have an illegal SBR in the ATF’s eyes and they could come after you. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 4:07:49 PM EDT
[#39]
Denying transfers (form 4) makes "sense" under the law, the dealer can't transfer to you legally, at least not until the unconstitutional law is quashed.
My question is about Form 1 where you already posses all the parts and are proposing to swap the barrel. You don't have an illegal SBR unless you swap the barrel before getting the stamp. My form 1 relates to a lower that currently has a 16" barrel and upon getting the stamp I will swap the barrel for a shorter one. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 4:11:25 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like paid eform 1 have a better chance of being approved faster than the amnesty ones? I don't see why. Assuming you have removed the pistol brace from your lower there is nothing illegal about possession of it before or after the WA law. You can legally have an AR pistol with an 11" barrel so long as it doesn't have a shoulder stock before you get the stamp. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 4:14:04 PM EDT
[#41]
Cops, if you get a transfer denied for a firearm you paid for and you can afford to not get refunded by the dealer consider contacting FPC and volunteering to be named as a plaintiff in a suit to overturn the law.
You will have standing since you will have been denied the transfer. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 4:16:48 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Denying transfers (form 4) makes "sense" under the law, the dealer can't transfer to you legally, at least not until the unconstitutional law is quashed. My question is about Form 1 where you already posses all the parts and are proposing to swap the barrel. You don't have an illegal SBR unless you swap the barrel before getting the stamp. My form 1 relates to a lower that currently has a 16" barrel and upon getting the stamp I will swap the barrel for a shorter one. We aren’t talking about your already owned 16” rifle. The video/ topic is about the arm braced pistols that ATF is already saying is an SBR. So if you apply for the amnesty EForm 1 and then it’s denied by ATF/ NFA branch because of 1240 becoming law, in their eyes, you have an unregistered SBR. They, the ATF already know about it now, even if you made it completely a pistol. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 4:21:32 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cops, if you get a transfer denied for a firearm you paid for and you can afford to not get refunded by the dealer consider contacting FPC and volunteering to be named as a plaintiff in a suit to overturn the law. You will have standing since you will have been denied the transfer. That will be my plan. I’m at day 264 today, so I am hoping this week maybe it could get transferred. But then my FFL/ SOT is making me do an additional 17 day wait and 4473 with another background check, which makes no sense to me, but they are saying it’s due to I1639 and the law. If 1240 becomes law during that wait, I’m screwed as well. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 6:54:46 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We aren’t talking about your already owned 16” rifle. The video/ topic is about the arm braced pistols that ATF is already saying is an SBR. So if you apply for the amnesty EForm 1 and then it’s denied by ATF/ NFA branch because of 1240 becoming law, in their eyes, you have an unregistered SBR. They, the ATF already know about it now, even if you made it completely a pistol. Yeah, I have a 16" barrel on that lower now. You can also just take the pistol brace off and it's legal. So ATF can come and inspect it any time they want. It's also illegal for ATF to use data from all eForm submission against you (violates to 5th). |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 7:17:17 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's also illegal for ATF to use data from all eForm submission against you (violates to 5th). 
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Posted: 3/20/2023 3:10:14 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For what it’s worth, I called the ATF/NFA branch and spoke to a supervisor. She said as soon as a state law is enacted, they will deny any pending transfers. IMHO, at that point you would have an illegal SBR in the ATF’s eyes and they could come after you. I'm assuming that is what they will do, but they are now saying a braced pistol has always been an SBR, so it should be grandfathered in. This is all going to blow up in court, just a waiting game. |
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Posted: 3/21/2023 7:54:28 PM EDT
[#47]
I just got 2 of the free eform1 approvals back today but say “Pursuant to final ATF rule on 2021R-08F”
Does everyone else have this same approved with conditions wording on theirs? |
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Posted: 3/21/2023 10:25:04 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just got 2 of the free eform1 approvals back today but say “Pursuant to final ATF rule on 2021R-08F” Does everyone else have this same approved with conditions wording on theirs? I am still waiting for mine. I have heard that they are all being granted "with conditions" like yours, but I don't know what those conditions actually mean. |
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Posted: 3/22/2023 3:58:02 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted: I just got 2 of the free eform1 approvals back today but say “Pursuant to final ATF rule on 2021R-08F” Does everyone else have this same approved with conditions wording on theirs? Yes, probably their copout to ask for $200 when this new option is found illegal. |
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Posted: 3/22/2023 4:42:10 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, probably their copout to ask for $200 when this new option is found illegal. Wouldn’t it just go back to a braced pistol at that point? |
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