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10/18/2010 5:43:09 PM EDT
So, in Everett I was using RG58 cable for my anteanea. I do not have enough to reach from where the anteanea is going to where I need the cable to run.......question I have is this: does any coax work? I have cable left over from someone else's direct TV going right from where my anteanea is going, to right where my radio is going to sit...........will this shit work?



10/18/2010 5:47:36 PM EDT
[#1]
Does a coat hanger work for a TV antennae? Does copper pipe work for an FM radio anennae?

Yes, but with antennaes, you get what you pay for. It'll get you on the air at least.
10/18/2010 5:52:09 PM EDT
[#2]
Yes it can be used.

It's not the proper application though and may cause some issues.

RG58 is 50 Ohm

RG59 or RG6 is 75 Ohm.
10/18/2010 5:53:21 PM EDT
[#3]
No sir not any coax will work... CatTV stuff is 75Ω. You need 50Ω.

You could use a balun and an xforme to try to make the match but that is for people how know something... I don't so I use the right coax
10/18/2010 5:54:16 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Yes it can be used.

It's not the proper application though and may cause some issues.

RG58 is 50 Ohm

RG59 or RG6 is 75 Ohm.


Like burn out your finals...

10/18/2010 5:55:44 PM EDT
[#5]
Thanks for the info guys......will wait to aquire more R58 then


10/18/2010 5:58:02 PM EDT
[#6]
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Quoted:
Yes it can be used.

It's not the proper application though and may cause some issues.

RG58 is 50 Ohm

RG59 or RG6 is 75 Ohm.


Like burn out your finals...



No, like it has to be terminated properly using the right connectors.  It's not as easy as RG58.
10/18/2010 5:58:04 PM EDT
[#7]
You passed your test and you don't know?! They'll let anyone into the club these days...





RG58 is actually pretty lossy. For long runs look at LMR-400





Here's a decent chart -http://www.rfparts.com/commcoax.html
 
10/18/2010 5:58:24 PM EDT
[#8]
Having gotten the two confused once or twice in the Army (damn stickers came off), I can tell you that you want to be sure to have the right part.
10/18/2010 6:00:46 PM EDT
[#9]
Here I was, trying to give Patch a reason to "upgrade" his equipment and you guys had to step in and be all safe.
10/18/2010 6:01:33 PM EDT
[#10]
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Having gotten the two confused once or twice in the Army (damn stickers came off), I can tell you that you want to be sure to have the right part.


I could see this happening
10/18/2010 6:03:19 PM EDT
[#11]




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Having gotten the two confused once or twice in the Army (damn stickers came off), I can tell you that you want to be sure to have the right part.




I could see this happening




Network terminators and radio terminators had the same dimentions.  One had a green sticker one had red IIRC.  A light breeze would remove said terminators and the only way to know which was which was with trial and error or a multi meter.
10/18/2010 6:06:49 PM EDT
[#12]
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Having gotten the two confused once or twice in the Army (damn stickers came off), I can tell you that you want to be sure to have the right part.


I could see this happening


Network terminators and radio terminators had the same dimentions.  One had a green sticker one had red IIRC.  A light breeze would remove said terminators and the only way to know which was which was with trial and error or a multi meter.


We are talking the Army rigth... has to be trial and error
10/18/2010 9:26:02 PM EDT
[#13]



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Yes it can be used.



It's not the proper application though and may cause some issues.



RG58 is 50 Ohm



RG59 or RG6 is 75 Ohm.


Spoken like a true Supply pogue.



"Uh, this cable looks like that cable, so it should work..."



50 Ohm and 75 Ohm cable is vastly different in the RF world.  Kinda like trying to chamber and fire .30-30 in your .30-'06.



RG-59/U is even useless for today's digital CATV and high-speed internet.



RG-58/U is OK for low-power RF transmission along shorter runs.  RG-8/U is better.  



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coaxial_cable



 
10/18/2010 9:34:52 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Yes it can be used.

It's not the proper application though and may cause some issues.

RG58 is 50 Ohm

RG59 or RG6 is 75 Ohm.

Spoken like a true Supply pogue.

"Uh, this cable looks like that cable, so it should work..."

50 Ohm and 75 Ohm cable is vastly different in the RF world.  Kinda like trying to chamber and fire .30-30 in your .30-'06.

RG-59/U is even useless for today's digital CATV and high-speed internet.

RG-58/U is OK for low-power RF transmission along shorter runs.  RG-8/U is better.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coaxial_cable
 


Whatever...
10/18/2010 9:51:44 PM EDT
[#15]
Shit guys, ya know they have these things called telephones now?
10/18/2010 10:20:31 PM EDT
[#16]
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Shit guys, ya know they have these things called telephones now?


I'd like to see you try to use your cell/land line when TEOTWAWKI/a storm/a squirrel (no, not that one)/a backhoe happens.

10/18/2010 10:53:49 PM EDT
[#17]
How long is the run? Might want to use 9913 instead.
10/19/2010 3:29:50 AM EDT
[#18]
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when....a squirrel...happens.


10/19/2010 9:54:40 AM EDT
[#19]
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Shit guys, ya know they have these things called telephones now?


I'd like to see you try to use your cell/land line when TEOTWAWKI/a storm/a squirrel (no, not that one)/a backhoe happens.



If places like Iraq can maintain cellular service after an all out invasion then I'm not that worried about it.  Besides, ive seen a enough movies and read enough fictional survival stories to know that contacting the outside world isn't always a good idea.
10/19/2010 10:17:13 AM EDT
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If places like Iraq can maintain cellular service after an all out invasion then I'm not that worried about it.  Besides, ive seen a enough movies and read enough fictional survival stories to know that contacting the outside world isn't always a good idea.




I'll assume that you did not try to make a phone call from this area or receive an incoming call for several hours after 10:54 a.m. PST (18:54 UTC) on February 28, 2001. Services were spotty at best.

 
10/19/2010 10:58:21 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:

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If places like Iraq can maintain cellular service after an all out invasion then I'm not that worried about it.  Besides, ive seen a enough movies and read enough fictional survival stories to know that contacting the outside world isn't always a good idea.


I'll assume that you did not try to make a phone call from this area or receive an incoming call for several hours after 10:54 a.m. PST (18:54 UTC) on February 28, 2001. Services were spotty at best.  


Maybe I had verizon.
10/19/2010 2:36:06 PM EDT
[#22]
Are you running HF or VHF/UHF?  At any rate, I have about 100' of coax (50 ohm) that I would be willing to give you if you are local to Tacoma.  Good stuff, just excess to my needs.

73,

SFC