Posted: 9/15/2010 10:35:24 AM EDT
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So, I've been toying with the idea of buying some land & building a cabin on it for hunting, snowmobiling, Bug out location etc.Does anyone here know what the permitting is like here in WA? Is it any more/less of a pain in the ass than building permits for a house? concealed means concealed?
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I would think if you were to go off the grid, it would be a he'll of a lot easier....... No water, sewer, electrical permits. Get yourself 100 acres in deep Eastern Wa and a couple of Conex containers, maybe bury a school bus or two and you are good. This, lake property (what I want) is getting harder and harder to find. Septic systems will be your hardest part (IMHO). If you go off the grid with a composting/incenerating toilet(a buddy has one and it's pretty damn cool). Codes vary from place to place, but i don't think there's anything really crazy. A lot of the lake property I found had style limitations, where the areas was in a "comunity" in which you had to build from a selected set of plans within a certain ammount of time. Now going the BO cabin in the middle of BFE,, I think you can save a lot of money, and have much less restrictions. Group Buy!!! |
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Hmmm some things to think about I guess. I was thinking more of a traditional cabin, less of the hidden bunker type, though it's ARFCOM I could eventually do both (thinking cabin with hidden buried connex on back 40 etc..)
I guess if I were to go off grid, I'd just need to locate a good water supply and procure a quality generator. (at least for building) Power is a must while building; I'm not doing it with hand tools, but I could make due just fine without power once finished, or on Gen power when needed for projects. An outhouse is an option, but a drainfield can be had fairly cheaply as well. |
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Read this Sunset Magazine article.
Some interesting/entertaining comments below the article  . Some questioning the use/permits/zoning etc..
ETA: Over in Survivor Forum |
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Found this site a while back...Dont know if it will help ya any, but it has some great pics...
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Fuck the comments....OK, they are fucked to begin with...but did you look at the plans/pre-fabs? Remember, this link was titled: DIY cabin in the woodsSee how one couple built a retreat in the Oregon wilderness for $10,000 (And they only disclose later that the property was, what, another $47K.....  )Purchase the plans from Ryan and hire a builder—or have Ryan deliver the shed complete. From $18,000 for prefab modular; detailed drawings $1,000; signal-shed.com Cutting-edge Los Angeles architecture firm Marmol Radziner Prefab is behind the Rincon, an option-rich, 600-square-foot modular prefab with standard features such as denim insulation. Upgrades available include Heath Ceramics tile, a kitchen island, and polished concrete flooring. When your second home starts to sound better than your first, it’s time to move. From $179,000.Ten-foot-high ceilings aren’t the only showstopper of Sustain Design Studio’s miniHome 12xTrio. The unusually shaped modular dwelling has a small annual carbon footprint, a hookup for solar and wind power, and is built with formaldehyde-free wood. From $120,000 for a base unit of about 400 square feet. Form & Forest’s Cowboy squeezes lots of loungy areas into its 635 square feet, which doesn’t include the expansive deck, courtyard, and covered porch. The flat-pack home even has a soaker tub at the center of its plan. From about $66,000. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!?  |
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How exactly is 1200 or so square feet of remote land for $47k cheap?!
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Fuck the comments....OK, they are fucked to begin with...but did you look at the plans/pre-fabs? Remember, this link was titled: DIY cabin in the woodsSee how one couple built a retreat in the Oregon wilderness for $10,000
(And they only disclose later that the property was, what, another $47K..... )
Purchase the plans from Ryan and hire a builder—or have Ryan deliver the shed complete. From $18,000 for prefab modular; detailed drawings $1,000; signal-shed.com
Cutting-edge Los Angeles architecture firm Marmol Radziner Prefab is behind the Rincon, an option-rich, 600-square-foot modular prefab with standard features such as denim insulation. Upgrades available include Heath Ceramics tile, a kitchen island, and polished concrete flooring. When your second home starts to sound better than your first, it’s time to move. From $179,000.
Ten-foot-high ceilings aren’t the only showstopper of Sustain Design Studio’s miniHome 12xTrio. The unusually shaped modular dwelling has a small annual carbon footprint, a hookup for solar and wind power, and is built with formaldehyde-free wood. From $120,000 for a base unit of about 400 square feet. Form & Forest’s Cowboy squeezes lots of loungy areas into its 635 square feet, which doesn’t include the expansive deck, courtyard, and covered porch. The flat-pack home even has a soaker tub at the center of its plan. From about $66,000.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!?
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Quoted: How exactly is 1200 or so square feet of remote land for $47k cheap?! I kinda glossed over that, I knew it was small, but Holeee Shiiiiiit!!!! Now, having said that....There is such a thing as market driven pricing by benefit of location...a 'ferinstance": I once sold .58 acres of property for $170K, It was lake view, no water access, on a secondary road, no sewer (It was in a district, which mandated sewer connection), no city water, or well drilled, the power was on the road, and there was NO "Flat". I thought the real estate agent was goofy when he appraised it and told me what he wanted to list it for. Damn if it didn't sell in under 90 days. |
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Make sure you have road access....or some kind of access. Hell of a problem to be land-locked with no way in/out.
BTDT, btw...20 acres in ID, no bldg codes of any sort...not that they were needed, most people used older camper trailers w/tree trunk roof structure. Phone line for us was free, they came out and in 20 minutes we had a dial tone. Power co. wanted to charge us $4k+....self-reliant electricity would've run about $6k....we got by with a 4kw generator, one deep-cycle + 400w inverter. Oil lamps ftw!! Outhouse ftw...unless it's -20F outside. (Then you just line the seat with TP, to prevent it from freezing to your ass) Off-road bicyclist types are fuckers...they just ride on through trees, not knowing nor caring they're on private property. (Hint: don't garden in the nude) Make sure everything is locked up and/or boobytrapped. It'll be stolen otherwise. Have a shovel and pickaxe handy, for nighttime burials various excavations. Keep a good pair of snowshoes in the car, you will use them if you're in mountains. And a large plastic toboggan to haul supplies. Would I do it again? Yes, after the kids leave. Maybe. I probably would make a "trust" corporation just so my actual name isn't on the deed. Better to hide out that way. |
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you can buy 1200sq feet of land? I was looking at forested acreage That's a dinky city lot anywhere in America. REALLY dinky. as in 30x40, that's freaking tiny. thats retarded small, my yard in the city is 12000. Permits really depends on where your at. The farther north you go the less permits are "required" depending on the GOBC. I think I could realistically throw together a decent sized cabin for under 10k. I would be scrounging all sorts of stuff from work to do it but I'm pretty sure I could. Hell they are throwing away enough trusses on the job I'm on right now to build a reaaaaaly big house, only problem is that they are for a flat roof, but with some ingenuity they could be used to make an A-frame or a lean-to looking cabin. I think my actual largest cost would be concrete for the footings, probably end up having to do it by the bag, but I know a guy who could deliver them via helicopter. T |
| You can build a cabin for as little or as much as you want to spend. Hell look at the early settlers, they built entire towns with little more than an axe and some hard work. As far as I'm concerned to do it right the only real cost should be the land. Now whether or not a hand built cabin would pass any required inspections is another argument, but you sure as hell can build one if you put your mind (and back) to it. |
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Is that in Lincoln, MT? |
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How exactly is 1200 or so square feet of remote land for $47k cheap?! I re-read the series Looks like I goofed the land area calc... the land they paid $47K for was 15,000 sf or .344 acres... still not what I would call cheap for unimproved land (almost $137K/arcre)... I've seen 20+ acres up here for $250K ($12.5K/acre), and I don't call that cheap either... |
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Quoted: Is that in Lincoln, MT? Look at the link...."unabomber"....Lincoln, MT is a dead bang. 
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| Will google the guy later. Live in alaska alone for several years, built his house, documented everything. Awesome story. Comes on Public Tv every other year or so. I think his cabin is a historic site now or something. There's your turorial video set, free with a pledge of only $3000, and if you cal lin the next 30 minutes you receive a free Lord of Dance lace collar shirt! |
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Dick Preneke, iirc.
*searches Yahoo...* Aha! I was richtig! site |