Posted: 3/10/2010 6:50:13 PM EDT
Community Emergency Response Team training. Anyone else here take the course? My second class is tomorrow night. Interesting disaster prep stuff including prepping for the family, emergency 1st aid, types of disasters and SOP for each and the final being a simulated disaster drill. I even got the wife to go and start getting involved in prepping 
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| Actually, a lot of the info is on triage with the expectation that there will be no 1st responders around for awhile. I was a bit shocked when the instructor said that CPR is not to be performed as they'll die anyway before the cavalry gets there and to spend your time where it will help someone survive. I took the Red Cross 1st Aid course a few weeks ago and you're right, it's a joke. Pretty much a step-by-step in how to dial 911. The CERT class is a lot more aggressive and sets up teams and has some search and rescue elements to it. |
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is the first aid the new red cross stuff? I took that class and its a joke. I dont mean to be a big time downer here, but allot of classes open to the public are written to the "lowest common denominator" ... CERT is much different. Guy at work does it. He is pretty far along. Made a Prepper out of him and turned him from Hail to the chief to "Were on our own" kinda guy. 
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We did something like this when i was in the boy scouts for a merit badge(Emergency Preparedness), we even set up a make shift disaster and everything. The communities we did it in actually took it very seriously and helped us with it cause of all the hurricanes. Once you take courses like this you realize that you are truly on your own when the SHTF. We even had to make the whole "dead pile" and how to keep the people who were critically wounded isolated from people who had a chance at surviving, as well as keeping the people who were in need of medical attention away from and isolated from any events that were happening. This way you minimize their chance of going into shock. |
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I used to help teach the CERT class out in my area...
I think it is a good program as long as the people going to the classes dont overstep their training. A few of the people that have done the classes over the years are the type that sometimes I think we gave them enough rope to hang themselves. I support this kind of training 106% It really is a newer updated Civil Defence. GMR also nailed it when he said the Public seems to love it. Good luck, have fun, and use it to your advantage. 
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| It was very interesting to hear from the FD just how on our own we will be. The 1st priority is to be self sufficient and then once knowing our homes and families are secure, head out to the nearby homes and do what we can to help in lieu of the professionals being available. |
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I hadn't even heard of it. Is it a city thing, or do I live in a hut? CERT Training by District Chehalis / Centralia CERT |
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Quoted: I hadn't even heard of it. Is it a city thing, or do I live in a hut? Oy. At the risk of seeming like I want to drive traffic to my blog––'cuz I'd never do that! ––here are some posts I have made re: CERT.Upcoming training. Ditto from last September. Is CERT subversive? "Furthermore...", which started out as part of "Subversive"; contains links to other "prepping" resources. Thoughts RE: Haitian earthquake and CERT. Community Emergency Response Training (known in some places as "Citizen's Emergency Readiness Training") is intended to prepare citizens to prepare for and respond to emergencies and disasters. It will not qualify you to be an Urban Search and Rescue team member; expecting it to do so is kinds like being disappointed with Air Force basic training because it did not turn you into a Navy SEAL. Different things altogether. The priorities they train are 1) Take care of yourself 2) Take care of your family 3) take care of your neighbors 4) Take care of people in your neighborhood 5) Take care of your community They repeated over and over again that CERT team members are not expected to perform CPR or anything beyond the basics "ABCD" first aid. "How many will die while you spend half an hour performing mouth-to-mouth on a lost cause?" Some folks never came back for the next class. and they had the Kent FD Chaplain in to give the class on survivors' guilt, dealing with the emotional stress of a disaster. 'Mancer, Seattle does "SNAP", not sure it's the same thing as CERT. Federal Way does "Advanced CERT" training; they also have "NET" which is sort of a "CERT Survey" course. |
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Quoted: Community Emergency Response Team training. BTW, taking and completing the course does NOT necessarily get you on any roster or list. That is, you are not automatically enrolled on a team. Not sayin' anyone here would be paranoid about such things...  Due to my work schedule at the time I took Kent's afternoon class, which is intended for folks who work in Kent, and are usually taking the class "on the clock." In fact, about half the class worked for the City of Kent, King County, or one of the local utilities. One thing I found was that, if you are a fairly competent, confident "leader type" some folks will imprint on you like a duck and expect you to tell them what to do even if they are put in charge of the drill. Guess that shouldn't have surprised me, but somehow 20 years in the Army must have spoiled me or something when it comes to my concept of leadership. Then there as the bitch who refused to be in charge "because I can learn more by observing others" but always had to tell you what to do and how to do it. During the final several of us told her "You didn't want to be in charge, so stop telling me what to do." |
| I think the biggest value that will come from the class for my family is that my wife is now finally getting onboard with being actively involved with prepping. So far she had just expected that I would have everything all set and ready to go. She realized that if the wall falls on me then she and the kids are in trouble and needs to improve her skillset. |
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Quoted: So. It's a city thing. Savvy. Not necessarily. Depends on where you live. Here, it's communicated{WTF?} conducted by the city fire dept. but the program is funded by King County. Or, maybe they figure you country bumpkins  don't need to be told how to deal with emergencies and disasters.Case in point: A "disaster" is defined as an event that overwhelms emergency response agencies. We were asked to make a list of disasters that could effect our community. Would someone living in "the country" have insisted on putting "glowball warmening" on the list? (Mrs. Drang would have been very proud of me. I didn't go all skeptic/denier on her, I simply pointed out that it did not meet the criteria, i.e., we are not going to wake up and find that the polar ice caps and all glaciers have melted, and CERTs are being called out to deal with the consequences...) |
| Hmm, tempting. Anyone want to do the Renton one starting at the end of March? http://rentonwa.gov/emergencies/default.aspx?id=18602 |
| If you guys wanna see what kind of things they do, click here. It's a link to the Lakewood CERT Facebook page. |
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Quoted: Hmm, tempting. Anyone want to do the Renton one starting at the end of March? http://rentonwa.gov/emergencies/default.aspx?id=18602 I'm up for this  |
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Quoted: Quoted: So. It's a city thing. Savvy. <snip> Or, maybe they figure you country bumpkins don't need to be told how to deal with emergencies and disasters.<snip> In all honesty, I don't believe anyone can ever be prepared for everything. But the CERT training appears to have the best of intentions. Nothing at all is wrong with that. Good luck |
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maybe ill look into some of this training then.
As far as not doing cpr if what i heard is true it makes sense. An EMT buddy told me its really not going to bring many people back, but it will keep enough blood flowing to make their organs useable for transplants... |
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For all the amateur radio operators in the HTF, most ARES/RACES groups require CERT and IS100 & 700 for members. |
| Tonight we did triage. Color coding people according to severity. Check for breath twice, if nothing they get a black tag and move on. It was all about helping the most people you can in the shortest time possible and getting them to the next aid point or to the morgue. A lot of matter of fact treatment about things like massive injuries, amputations, etc... I found it useful. |
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My fucking luck. Kitsap county doesn't do these things. Name of Program: Port Gamble S’Klallam CERT Disaster Training Geographic Area: Kitsap County, Kingston, Washington Point of Contact: Title: n/a Phone Number: (360) 297-6340 E-mail address: [email protected] Brief Description: 20 hour FEMA CERT Training. |