Posted: 3/8/2010 11:35:22 AM EDT
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So this weekend was drill and I was nominated for the Spur Ride. It is an initiation into the Cav to prove you are a trained scout.
Here was my schedule Ruck loadout 40 lbs Sat 0245 wakeup 0250 smoke session 0400 load up the bus and move to TA 10 on Ft Lewis-15 min ride 0415-0430 chow/freeze your ass off in the morning frost/dew 0430 bus some more/waiting 0500 safety brief/map handout/plot points 0545 GO! 0545-1630 ruck approx 26 miles between points with smoke sessions at points/skills testing/on the road if you get caught by a rover. 1630-1800 wait for everyone who got lost on the way 1800-1900 stand down prep for food/banquet. 2030 induction into the order of the silver spur. 19 teams started, 10 teams finished. It was one hell of a day and a lot of fun but I remembered something today. I am getting older and my body does not heal as fast. It hurts to wipe my ass and I am walking like an old man but damnit I finished! Oh and to the guy who drives a Lancer and was going over Tiger mountain last night about 1700, I love your front window art. |
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EIB was like a week of prep and 4 days of testing..... All those with an AR 670-1 authorized award please raise your hands.....Quoted:
One day of wandering around doing odd jobs and they give you a phony made-up award? Nice.
Ahh... it's the baby wannabe EIB... I get it! 
    
Congrats though..... 
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Quoted: Quoted: EIB was like a week of prep and 4 days of testing..... All those with an AR 670-1 authorized award please raise your hands.....Quoted: One day of wandering around doing odd jobs and they give you a phony made-up award? Nice. Ahh... it's the baby wannabe EIB... I get it! Congrats though..... "...with a NoGo Here, and a NoGo there, here a NoGo, there a NoGo, everywhere a noGo...I got two NoGo's now I'm Blade runnin', E-EYE-BEE-EYE-OHHHHHHHH!" |
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So this weekend was drill and I was nominated for the Spur Ride. It is an initiation into the Cav to prove you are a trained scout. Here was my schedule Ruck loadout 40 lbs Sat 0245 wakeup 0250 smoke session 0400 load up the bus and move to TA 10 on Ft Lewis-15 min ride 0415-0430 chow/freeze your ass off in the morning frost/dew 0430 bus some more/waiting 0500 safety brief/map handout/plot points 0545 GO! 0545-1630 ruck approx 26 miles between points with smoke sessions at points/skills testing/on the road if you get caught by a rover. 1630-1800 wait for everyone who got lost on the way 1800-1900 stand down prep for food/banquet. 2030 induction into the order of the silver spur. 19 teams started, 10 teams finished. It was one hell of a day and a lot of fun but I remembered something today. I am getting older and my body does not heal as fast. It hurts to wipe my ass and I am walking like an old man but damnit I finished! Oh and to the guy who drives a Lancer and was going over Tiger mountain last night about 1700, I love your front window art. Congrats! I'm the Lancer guy. You'd be surprised at how well it works! |
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NEWS FLASH! I AM NOT INFANTRY!
Hence I don't get to earn an EIB but you know damn well I would do it if I could. Not sure how long the EIB has been around but I know spurs have been around for a long damn time, just because we don't have horses does not mean we give up our silly traditions. I had a lot of fun and would do it again in a heartbeat....after I get to heal for a week or so! Now if we could just have some saber qualifications that authorized us to wear one of those I would be happy. |
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I thought yous guys could also earn your spurs by going into combat. Either way, congratulations are in order!
Now are you going to post a picture of yourself wearing only spurs, Stetson and a thin coat of LSA in GD? Those are gold spurs, the equivalent of a CIB. The silver spurs are are something you don't just get for being shot at, you have to earn them. Not as tough as an EIB but hey, it's the guard. |
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Quoted: NEWS FLASH! I AM NOT INFANTRY! Hence I don't get to earn an EIB but you know damn well I would do it if I could. Not sure how long the EIB has been around but I know spurs have been around for a long damn time, just because we don't have horses does not mean we give up our silly traditions. I had a lot of fun and would do it again in a heartbeat....after I get to heal for a week or so! Now if we could just have some saber qualifications that authorized us to wear one of those I would be happy. Sword fights in full battle rattle! |
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NEWS FLASH! I AM NOT INFANTRY! Hence I don't get to earn an EIB but you know damn well I would do it if I could. Not sure how long the EIB has been around but I know spurs have been around for a long damn time, just because we don't have horses does not mean we give up our silly traditions. ...A tradtion started by Air Cav in Vietnam circa 1969-1971...so not so long..same with the cowboy hats.(aka stetsons)... I had a lot of fun and would do it again in a heartbeat....after I get to heal for a week or so! Now if we could just have some saber qualifications that authorized us to wear one of those I would be happy. By your time line for the Foot march..its not even Army standard of 3 miles per hour(this is the standard for non-combat MOS)...EIB is 4 miles per hour= 12 miles in 3 hours or less...Below is a sample of tasks that is EIB..I know an MP female PFC that got her spurs at YTC in 2008 pre-Mob........
Below is a list of the stations, points, and tasks for the EIB test. Unless otherwise noted, each point is a retest element. Failing a performance measure at a point requires the candidate to retest that point only, not the entire station. For example, if a candidate fails any or all performance measures on the night land navigation course, he retests only the night land navigation course. However, if a candidate fails both the day and night land navigation courses, he retests both, and each retest counts as one of the candidate's two allowable retests. That candidate will not be allowed any more retests. a. At Station E, test one of the following: the SINCGARS or the ASIP radio but not both. b. At Station L, test either the M60 machine gun or the M240B machine gun but not both. c. At Station N, test either the caliber .50 machine gun or the MK 19 40-mm grenade machine gun but not both. d. Ensure that scorers complete score sheets based on the examples. e. The commander gives each soldier a completed requirements sheet and a blank score sheet. The completed requirements sheet should specify the numbered location of each testing stake. f. Uniforms for candidates participating in the EIB test include–– (1) Army Physical Fitness Test. Candidates wear the standard Army physical fitness uniform, adjusted seasonally by the Commander. (2) All other stations. For all other stations, candidates wear the following uniform items in the manner prescribed by the unit SOP for normal tactical operations. Units equipped with assault vests and other equipment may, if directed by the EIB board, modify this list of equipment: Pistol belt with suspenders. Ammunition pouches (two) with M16 magazines (six). Canteens with water (two), canteen covers (two), canteen cup (one). First-aid packet and case. Poncho. Helmet, Kevlar. Bayonet and scabbard. Protective mask and carrier. M16 series rifle, M4 carbine with sling and magazine inserted. Flashlight, chemical light, or both (night land navigation). . STATION POINT TASK TITLE Station A First Aid A-1 Perform Mouth-to-Mouth Resuscitation A-2 1. Put on a Field and Pressure Dressing 2. Apply a Tourniquet Prevent Shock Station B Nuclear, Biological, Chemical (NBC) B-1 Protect Yourself from Chemical/Biological Contamination Using Your Assigned Protective Mask B-2 Administer Nerve-Agent Antidote to Self (Self-Aid) B-3 Decontaminate Yourself and Individual Equipment Using Chemical Decontamination Kit Station C Indirect Fire C-1 Locate a Target by Shift from a Known Point C-2 Adjust Indirect Fire Station D Basic Individual Techniques D-1 Perform Individual Camouflage D-2 Move Under Direct Fire D-3 Use Visual Signaling Techniques (Dismounted/Mounted) D-4 Estimate Range Station E Communications E-1 Operate SINCGARS Radio Single Channel E-2 Operate as a Station in a Net Using SINCGARS E-3 Operate ASIP Radio Single Channel E-4 Operate as a Station in a Net Using ASIP Radio Station F Map Reading F-1 Identify Terrain Features on a Map F-2 Determine Target Location Using Grid Coordinates Station G M16 Series Rifle or M4 Carbine G-1 1. Perform a Function Check on an M16 Series Rifle or M4 Carbine 2. Load an M16 Series or M4 Carbine 3. Correct Malfunctions on an M16 Series Rifle or M4 Carbine 4. Unload an M16 Series Rifle or M4 Carbine Station H Hand Grenades H-1 1. Identify Hand Grenades 2. Employ Hand Grenades Station I Mines I-1 1. Employ an M18A1 Claymore Mine 2. Recover an M18A1 Claymore Mine I-2 Install/Remove an M21 Antitank Mine Station J Security and Intelligence J-1 Report Information of Potential Intelligence Value Using SALUTE (Size, Activity, Location, Unit, Time, and Equipment) Station K M136 Launcher (AT4) K-1 1. Prepare an M136 Launcher (AT4) for Firing 2. Perform Misfire Procedures on an M136 Launcher (AT4) Station L M60 Machine Gun L-1 1. Maintain an M60 Machine Gun 2. Perform a Function Check on an M60 Machine Gun L-2 1. Load an M60 Machine Gun 2. Correct Malfunctions on an M60 Machine Gun 3. Unload an M60 Machine Gun L-3 Prepare a Range Card for an M60 Machine Gun Station L M240B Machine Gun .. L-1 1. Maintain an M240B Machine Gun 2. Perform a Function Check on an M240B Machine Gun L-2 1. Load an M240B Machine Gun 2. Correct Malfunctions on an M240B Machine Gun 3. Unload an M240B Machine Gun L-3 Prepare a Range Card for an M240B Machine Gun Station M M249 Machine Gun M-1 1. Perform Operator Maintenance on an M249 Machine Gun 2. Perform a Function Check on an M249 Machine Gun M-2 1. Load an M249 Machine Gun 2. Correct Malfunctions on an M249 Machine Gun 3. Unload and Clear an M249 Machine Gun Station N Caliber .50 Machine Gun N-1 1. Load a Cal .50 Machine Gun 2. Correct Malfunctions on a Cal .50 Machine Gun 3. Unload and Clear a Cal .50 Machine Gun N-2 Set Headspace and Timing on a Cal .50 Machine Gun Station N MK 19 40-mm Grenade Machine Gun N-1 1. Load a MK 19 40mm Grenade Machine Gun 2. Correct Malfunctions on a MK 19 40mm Grenade Machine Gun 3. Unload and Clear a MK 19 40mm Grenade Machine Gun Station O 9MM Pistol O-1 Perform Operators Maintenance and Function Check on an M9 Pistol Station P Javelin P-1 Prepare the Javelin for firing. Station Q Night Vision Devices Q-1 Q-2 Operate Night Vision Goggles AN/PVS-7B Operate a night vision sight AN/PVS-4 Station R Borelight R-1 Place the Laser Aiming Device into Operation R-2 Zero the Borelight to the Weapon R-3 Boresight the Laser Aiming Device final day 12 mile road march in 3 hours or less and disassemble and assemble M4....ya, know we are just messing with ya.,............scouts out.....
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I thought yous guys could also earn your spurs by going into combat. Either way, congratulations are in order!
Now are you going to post a picture of yourself wearing only spurs, Stetson and a thin coat of LSA in GD? Those are gold spurs, the equivalent of a CIB. The silver spurs are are something you don't just get for being shot at, you have to earn them. Not as tough as an EIB but hey, it's the guard. cav. Fixed it for ya! The spur rides are set by unit, and most are pretty similar to what you did. A day of pure suck. Too bad they spurs don't look quite as cool in the suede boots as they did in a shined pair of black leather. But combine it with the Stetson in blues and it does look pretty cool. The EIB is pretty much an Army wide standard with a slight variation based on the unit's MToE. So even Guard units doing EIB testing have to do the same tests. I almost (and should have) put off moving for a month to get it before leaving the MD NG to move here. Came really close when I was active, but damn, there were some badge protectors. Less than 10% of candidates in the brigade earned theirs. In one company, only one person got it the first time I tried for it. |
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Quoted: Less than 10% of candidates in the brigade earned theirs. In one company, only one person got it the first time I tried for it. TRUE! I recall there being under 10 awardees all three times I was in a unit that tested on AD, out of 1100 man Battalions. IIRC we had 4 or 5 last time 1/161 IN tested. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Less than 10% of candidates in the brigade earned theirs. In one company, only one person got it the first time I tried for it. TRUE! I recall there being under 10 awardees all three times I was in a unit that tested on AD, out of 1100 man Battalions. IIRC we had 4 or 5 last time 1/161 IN tested. Out of my brigade we had roughly 30 awardees and that was amazingly high. EIB trains to doctrine. Not actual, tactical use of any of the things they train on. |
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Hey 161, I realize the ruck was not up to Army standard speed times. Wanna know why? Because it was cross country land nav on ft lewis. It was NOT a road march. We were breaking brush in a LOT of places. If you failed at land nav you did not make it, there was no walking down roads the whole way. Not trying to sound like a defensive prick here but lets not call it something it was not.
Of all the failures the vast majority were because they could not keep their speed up cross country. |
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Land Nav in the Air Force consists of finding a taxicab that takes the Visa GTC and is equipped with a GPS (e.g. TomTom, Garmin, Magellan, etc.). Our "rucks" have wheels and are made by Samsonite, American Tourister and Skyway.  You don't want to know the Hell I had to endure to earn my Expert Latte Drinker's badge.  |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Less than 10% of candidates in the brigade earned theirs. In one company, only one person got it the first time I tried for it. TRUE! I recall there being under 10 awardees all three times I was in a unit that tested on AD, out of 1100 man Battalions. IIRC we had 4 or 5 last time 1/161 IN tested. Out of my brigade we had roughly 30 awardees and that was amazingly high. EIB trains to doctrine. Not actual, tactical use of any of the things they train on. Yeah, an Infantry Brigade on Lewis? Consisting of three IN BNs? That is high, every BN I was in on AD was Mech, two BNs of IN, 1 Armor each Brigade. Zerker....you know we love you! It's the gheyass cav we hate!!!!!!!  |
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So what your saying is it was a tactical movement???....being defensive is what scouts do best...we are used to it....Hey 161, I realize the ruck was not up to Army standard speed times. Wanna know why? Because it was cross country land nav on ft lewis. It was NOT a road march. We were breaking brush in a LOT of places. If you failed at land nav you did not make it, there was no walking down roads the whole way. Not trying to sound like a defensive prick here but lets not call it something it was not. Of all the failures the vast majority were because they could not keep their speed up cross country. ...atleast girls cant get our EIB and CIB........ ..............
I said it once already...we are just messing with ya....good job trooper............garry owen, 7th cav...little big horn and all that cav stuff.......
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So what your saying is it was a tactical movement???....being defensive is what scouts do best...we are used to it....Hey 161, I realize the ruck was not up to Army standard speed times. Wanna know why? Because it was cross country land nav on ft lewis. It was NOT a road march. We were breaking brush in a LOT of places. If you failed at land nav you did not make it, there was no walking down roads the whole way. Not trying to sound like a defensive prick here but lets not call it something it was not. Of all the failures the vast majority were because they could not keep their speed up cross country. ...atleast girls cant get our EIB and CIB......................
I said it once already...we are just messing with ya....good job trooper............garry owen, 7th cav...little big horn and all that cav stuff.......
Ha! Remember, it is the guard, it was tacticalish. |
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So what your saying is it was a tactical movement???....being defensive is what scouts do best...we are used to it....Hey 161, I realize the ruck was not up to Army standard speed times. Wanna know why? Because it was cross country land nav on ft lewis. It was NOT a road march. We were breaking brush in a LOT of places. If you failed at land nav you did not make it, there was no walking down roads the whole way. Not trying to sound like a defensive prick here but lets not call it something it was not. Of all the failures the vast majority were because they could not keep their speed up cross country. ...atleast girls cant get our EIB and CIB......................
I said it once already...we are just messing with ya....good job trooper............garry owen, 7th cav...little big horn and all that cav stuff.......
Ha! Remember, it is the guard, it was tacticalish. Oh and we are NOT fans of the females being able to attempt it. Fortunately very few make it and those are actually pretty hard core for women. |