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3/29/2009 6:33:01 PM EDT
I've been wondering, I recently got my CPL.  While I'm at work (I run a service truck), company policy prohibits firearms.  If I get pulled over, should I notify the LEO that I have a CPL even if I am unarmed?
3/29/2009 6:34:33 PM EDT
[#1]
no reason to if your unarmed.....when it happens to me and i am not carrying...i don't mention it...


3/29/2009 6:43:24 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
no reason to if your unarmed.....when it happens to me and i am not carrying...i don't mention it...


This.

When they run your license, it'll return a hit that you have a CPL.  They may ask you if you're armed.  Just answer honestly.
3/29/2009 6:43:57 PM EDT
[#3]
It's up to you.



There's not much to lose by telling him that you a a CPL but you are not carrying.



Depending on what databases you are run through when the officer radios in he may or may not already know what you have a CPL.
3/29/2009 7:04:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Absolutely NO reason to mention it, whether you're carrying or not.  Unless he's gonna physically search you for some reason, or he specifically, seriously ASKS if you're armed, no.  No need to mention it.  I never do.

Especially if you're NOT armed.

Normally running a DL doesn't show them you have a CPL.  They do a separate check for that, usually, from what I've heard.

As for your company policy..........................that's up to you.  I'm thinking the most that could be done is they could fire you...................maybe sue you, depending on the situation.  But you're in no legal "hot water" that I'm aware of just for violating an idiotic company policy.  That part's up to you.
3/29/2009 7:10:08 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Absolutely NO reason to mention it, whether you're carrying or not.  Unless he's gonna physically search you for some reason, or he specifically, seriously ASKS if you're armed, no.  No need to mention it.  I never do.

Especially if you're NOT armed.

Normally running a DL doesn't show them you have a CPL.  They do a separate check for that, usually, from what I've heard.

As for your company policy..........................that's up to you.  I'm thinking the most that could be done is they could fire you...................maybe sue you, depending on the situation.  But you're in no legal "hot water" that I'm aware of just for violating an idiotic company policy.  That part's up to you.


Pretty much sums it up. No sense in telling the LEO unless he cares to ask you, which could lead to a completely different attitude on their part towards you. You could have the best most harmless intentions in telling them; but in reality it could lead to a lot of unnecessary hassle. And as far as your employer goes, as long as neither they or any co-worker doesn't know about it, concealed means concealed...
3/29/2009 7:46:22 PM EDT
[#6]
Thanks for the input all...  BTW, WA is not a "duty to notify" state correct?

Quoted:
...As for your company policy..........................that's up to you.  I'm thinking the most that could be done is they could fire you...................maybe sue you, depending on the situation.  But you're in no legal "hot water" that I'm aware of just for violating an idiotic company policy.  That part's up to you.

Quoted:
...And as far as your employer goes, as long as neither they or any co-worker doesn't know about it, concealed means concealed...


I abide by the company policy out of respect for the owner... Also, I'm a crane technician, and it's not always convenient or even safe to carry on the job.
3/29/2009 7:50:20 PM EDT
[#7]
In WA there is no requirement to notify. 9.41.050 is as far as it goes.
3/29/2009 8:09:59 PM EDT
[#8]
I don't say anything when I am carrying. I'm not anxious for someone that barely understands plastic guns to be fooling around with my C&L SA auto.


Quoted:


I abide by the company policy out of respect for the owner so I don't get run off when outed... Also, I'm a crane technician, and it's not always convenient or even safe to carry on the job.


Operator? Oiler? Rigger?
3/29/2009 8:34:10 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
I don't say anything when I am carrying. I'm not anxious for someone that barely understands plastic guns to be fooling around with my C&L SA auto.


Quoted:


I abide by the company policy out of respect for the owner so I don't get run off when outed  You say potato, I say blow me.... Also, I'm a crane technician, and it's not always convenient or even safe to carry on the job.


Operator? Oiler? Rigger?


Inspector.  Crawling inside of a lattice boom provides more chances to snag than a SIG.
3/30/2009 10:01:34 AM EDT
[#10]
Nothing says you have to tell them anything.... I dont..


If they run your plate to your car/truck/Motorcycle/rascal/skateboard... You will NOT show up...When stadank asks you for your Lic, and runs you, You will return with a CPL hit.

They still have to dig further if they want to know what you show as registered firearms to your name... They wont unless you are covered in blood, smell like you have had sex with a filthy butt-pirate, and have dead hookers in the trunk.
3/30/2009 6:10:16 PM EDT
[#11]
As a rule I try to avoid getting stopped for any reason.  In the last 3 years I have had two encounters with Law Officers while armed.  One was at the scene of an accident when someone with a bad case of cranial rectal inversion ran into the back of my truck at a stop sign.  When the Sheriff's Deputy who cam to investigate asked me for "License, Registration, and Insurance" I also included my CPL.  He glanced at it, looked at me, then handed it back without a word.  The last time I was stopped by a motorcycle officer that thought his "buddy" who was directing traffic through an intersection signaled me to stop.  To me it looked like he was giving me the OK to make a free right turn.  He to asked for the License, Registration, and Insurance.  Again I included the CPL.  He asked "where is it".  I replied "right here" and pointed to it.  He said "OK", went back and ran my license, then returned and said "Have a nice day".

In short, you don't HAVE to show the CPL but it doesn't hurt.  When you volunteer it and proceed like you have nothing to hide it often sets the "tone" of the :LEO encounter in a far more friendly mood.  That is unless you only stopped because your engine blew up after the 120mph pursuit.  That could be a problem.
3/30/2009 6:24:49 PM EDT
[#12]
Yeah......................we'll all do what we ourselves think is most prudent, but I would NEVER hand over my CPL on a traffic stop, when asked for License, Registraion, and Proof of Insurance.  Just no reason to.

Sure, MIGHT help things, maybe, also might make things wierd, if this particular officer happens to be a libtard.  Believe it or not, not all officers are created equal.
3/30/2009 7:00:15 PM EDT
[#13]



Quoted:


Yeah......................we'll all do what we ourselves think is most prudent, but I would NEVER hand over my CPL on a traffic stop, when asked for License, Registraion, and Proof of Insurance.  Just no reason to.



Sure, MIGHT help things, maybe, also might make things wierd, if this particular officer happens to be a libtard.  Believe it or not, not all officers are created equal.


This... Only give them what they ask...