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Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude. ~Thomas Jefferson
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great post, needs a sticky on the reloading forum
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May try this when I get hoome
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Another salvage...
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migradog: Because he's Matt45 and facts matter. "I keep happiness chained up like a little dog. Mostly so I can beat it into submission" 161Infantry |
Did you just stubmle on this and realize it wasn't dead?
I was going to bump it with my LBT moulds, but I wasn't 100% happy with them yet. Probably operator error, but I haven't been able to confirm that yet. |
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This is exactly what I've been looking for. It definitely needs to be a sticky in reloading.
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There's a fine line between a hobby and a mental illness.
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Originally Posted By HABU: Did you just stubmle on this and realize it wasn't dead? I was going to bump it with my LBT moulds, but I wasn't 100% happy with them yet. Probably operator error, but I haven't been able to confirm that yet. I was looking for something else and noticed it at the bottom of 28...since 45CB put a distinct amount of effort into it, I figured it was better to keep it "alive" rather than archived. ETA- See 'Gator's post above. |
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migradog: Because he's Matt45 and facts matter. "I keep happiness chained up like a little dog. Mostly so I can beat it into submission" 161Infantry |
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I figured it was better to keep it "alive" rather than archived. It's Set to not get archived. Any thread that's all the way at the bottom of the last page and has a Last Post Date that is out of sync with the other threads is there because it's been set to stay off of the Archive Server. |
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Any new questions or casters show up in the last year or so?
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Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude. ~Thomas Jefferson
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I've got everything but molds and a sizing set up. Money is mainly for college right now, but if some extra funds come along, I know what I need. Thanks for the info and the time you've taken to put it up.
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Eye protection – It goes without saying. I cheat as I wear prescription glasses. For me, this is good enough. For others, it may not be.
I would suggest a face shield, too. There have been times when I was glad to have more protection than my glasses. Sleeves/pants, shoes, hat – These items are personal choice. See above for disclaimer. You want to have as little exposed skin as possible. When the tinsel fairy pays a visit (and she will, unannounced) you want to be ready. Synthetics are a poor choice in protective clothing because they melt. Use cotton or wool instead. Leather is good, too. For a melting pot do not use aluminum. It gets soft around the melting point of lead and will dump a potful of molten lead on your feet without warning. A nicely done and well-illustrated guide to bullet casting. |
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Originally Posted By YOPD: What calibers? What are your mould plans?I've got everything but molds and a sizing set up. Money is mainly for college right now, but if some extra funds come along, I know what I need. Thanks for the info and the time you've taken to put it up. |
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Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude. ~Thomas Jefferson
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Right now, 45ACP and 38 special. I was gonna buy some Lee molds unless I ran into some good used molds at a price I can deal with first.
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bobbitybobbity to 1GUNRUNNER: "Next time I offer you sex, you just better say yes."
Offense is not something I can give, it is only something you can take. |
Originally Posted By YOPD: Use a LOT of caution if you are planning to use a Lee mould for a first mould. Lee moulds have their own characteristics that are unique to themselves. Learn on a known good mould before trying Lee moulds. This way you can separate operator vs. equipment issues. Right now, 45ACP and 38 special. I was gonna buy some Lee molds unless I ran into some good used molds at a price I can deal with first. |
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Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude. ~Thomas Jefferson
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Very good information, and right on the money. I used to cast bullets professionally for 2 yrs. at a store in Tucson, Az. named Jensen's Custom Ammunition. Then I ran the reloaded dept. for 3yrs. Those where the days. And you are correct when either sizing bullets or reloaded ammo commercially you size to the smallest size, and reload to min. overall length. Which as you stated will not always provide optimum accuracy.
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Holy crap!
Good job, you'll get roughly 106,000 pills outta that! |
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كافر All the way. Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
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Sadly, at one ton of ingots that represents only 70K 200gr bullets.
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Truly informative piece. Thanks for cluing us dodo's in. Much more to it than I had previously thought. When I start another gun room, I wanna set up for casting to compliment my reloading.
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Just when I thought it was over......it starts all over again.
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Selling agent for Algores carbon credit scam.
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Bumped to coincide with 45ColtBisleys PIF.
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Originally Posted By HABU:
Bumped to coincide with 45ColtBisleys PIF. This is so fucking cool. I need an additional firearm hobby to tide me over when I run out of guns to build/buy. This would be a much better way to stock up for the zombies. Awesome! Any information about how many lead .223s you can run through an AR before the bbl gets clogged or loses significant accuracy? I would think lead would have issues feeding in an AR? -cwg |
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Originally Posted By CrazyWhiteGuy: Well, how about a cop-out answer? It depends. Any information about how many lead .223s you can run through an AR before the bbl gets clogged or loses significant accuracy? I would think lead would have issues feeding in an AR? -cwg I would say that you could run a LOT of lead bullets through an AR before you started clogging the works up with lead dust. The catch is you would need to measure your throat and size (and seat) the bullets accordingly. You will also want to keep an eye on velocity, chamber pressure, and barrel temperature. Mag dumps and bump firing aren't a good fit for cast bullets. If your throat is generously sized (read .mil), it will be tough to "seal" it up. Most leading occurs when the powder gas escapes around the bullet and blows lead in front of it. Think oxygen lever on a cutting torch. I have a couple of Colt mfg barrels with a true 5.56 chamber. I will have to see if I can get a reasonably accurate throat measurement and will report back (one of these days). Of course, my barrel dimensions are gonna be different than your barrel dimensions, so what fits for me may not fit for you. As far as feeding - as long as the bullet profile is reasonable, I don't see an issue. |
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Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude. ~Thomas Jefferson
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I'm seriously thinking of getting started in casting. I am trying to decide on the RCBS 44-250K (44-250KT if I can find one), or the Lyman 429421. I have heard good and bad things about both, but it seems the RCBS 44-250K(T) gets the nod from more folks. I currently shoot a mass produced 240gr Keith "style" bevel based bullet and get ok accuracy.
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Originally Posted By Hanzerik: Both are classic designs that will remain timeless. With the advances in bullet lube (assuming you are running a modern lube), the huge grease groove (reservoir) isn't as necessary. When Keith designed the 429421, tallow and beeswax were in common use.I'm seriously thinking of getting started in casting. I am trying to decide on the RCBS 44-250K (44-250KT if I can find one), or the Lyman 429421. I have heard good and bad things about both, but it seems the RCBS 44-250K(T) gets the nod from more folks. I currently shoot a mass produced 240gr Keith "style" bevel based bullet and get ok accuracy. Go with the RCBS mould if you can find one. RCBS uses iron blocks, Lyman uses steel. The iron seems to release better compared to the steel. Once the mould gets up to temperature, it is almost impossible to get bad bullets from an RCBS mould. |
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Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude. ~Thomas Jefferson
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I really wish people would stop bumping this thread. It makes me sick every time.
sick that I don't do it yet,, |
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Ditto. I got a free bucket of wheel weights from the local tire shop, and melted them down into muffin molds. I got nice, shiny lead waiting to be transformed!
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Another bump for a great thread.
Finally got everything needed to cast over the winter, and smelted down my WWs last week. It took a while to figure out the right temp for the pot and mold, but now have a few hundred Ranch Dog TLC432-265-RF 265gr bullets ready and waiting for sizing and gas checking. |
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I just received a brass 4 cavity H&G #503 .44 Caliber Keith mould made in Slovenia of all places.
Have used MiHecs 6 cavity aluminum HG #68 for a couple of years with great results in my Kimber. As the OP seems to be a 45 Colt fan (I thought I was the only one), there is a group buy shaping up on the RCBS 45-270-SAA if interested over at Cast Boolits.com : MiHec 45-270-SAA |
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Originally Posted By Matt45:
Still in on 1! Great thread...But I still can't comprehend the first dozen or so lines I can definetly see that this is starting to reach the epic proportions of the "make your own .223 bullets thread" a few years back...IIRC that was from The Red Horseman? If it was the swage one it was me. very nice post OP! very nice.. |
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Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
Originally Posted By Matt45:
Still in on 1! Great thread...But I still can't comprehend the first dozen or so lines I can definetly see that this is starting to reach the epic proportions of the "make your own .223 bullets thread" a few years back...IIRC that was from The Red Horseman? If it was the swage one it was me. very nice post OP! very nice.. Is that the thread wherein there was very detailed instructions on how to turn .22 cases into .223 jackets? |
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A good addendum to this thread would be heat treating cast bullets.
Before anyone goes full on spastic, yes the concept of heat treating cast bullets is the same basic concept as heat treating harder metals, like steel for example, but obviously done at lower temperatures for softer metals like lead alloys. |
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Heat treating cast bullets i just fill a coffee can with water and drop them out of the mold in to the water and quench them and makes them hard but don't get the water near the lead pot or you will have a explosion and you can put a old rag in the bottom of the can so you don't dent them and they have a soft landing in the water .
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Well done! I don't cast my own bullets, however, I learned a great deal from your posting. Thanks for a very well put together posting.
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I actually thought I somehow wandered into the reloading forum for a minute! Great thread that must not be lost!
Off to the garage! |
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