Posted: 1/16/2009 9:05:34 AM EDT
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What *is* it with people - especially IT recruiters.
In the last two days, I have received inquiries from at least 2 (prolly more like 4) recruiters from NY and other places on the east coast. Now, on any of the sites that I have put my resume online, I specifically state that I am looking for work in Washington. That is WA. Not Washington D.C. and nearby (which I am sure these people think NYC is close enough to D.C. for me to want to relo). Why do I have to wade through these emails that come through, "Looking for Java developer" in the subject line to get way to the bottom only to find that the location is NYC or Annapolis! I usually reply to them saying that I am only looking for work in Washington and if they know of anyone in Washington to let me know. What I want to say is "please re-read my resume and where I'd like to work - because RIF!" 
If people on the east coast don't know that there is another Washington in the union, then maybe we should leave. (ok, rant off) |
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Telecommute. Would love to, but the development world tends to be a bit strange - we want to build the telecommute stuff, not actually USE it
Most managers still want a warm body in a chair that they can look at - i need a clone that I can send into the office just to sit there |
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You will never find a good job with an attitude like that mister. Yeah, my 'tude towars work stinks lately ... I wish I could change it - but that would require a new job, and without a good attitude I can't seem to motivate myself to finding one that will improve my attitude ... you see where this is going. |
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IT recruiters? That's what I said  IT recruiters.
Then there are the ones around here that call you up just to see if you're looking or not - not that they actually *have* a position in mind... I think I've been doing this too long is my problem. I need a new career, but I don't know any that would pay even close to what I make now as a starting wage. Otherwise life is actually pretty good 
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I am having the opposite problem... I am willing to go to another area and when I send my resume out, they all say I am not qualified because I do not live in the area they prefer... I come back with I am willing to relocate at my own expense and they give another BS response... Fuck the job market.... Obama will save us!
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I am having the opposite problem... I am willing to go to another area and when I send my resume out, they all say I am not qualified because I do not live in the area they prefer... I come back with I am willing to relocate at my own expense and they give another BS response... Fuck the job market.... Obama will save us! ETA: So, that 60k starter job didn't work out, huh? |
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I am having the opposite problem... I am willing to go to another area and when I send my resume out, they all say I am not qualified because I do not live in the area they prefer... I come back with I am willing to relocate at my own expense and they give another BS response... Fuck the job market.... Obama will save us! ETA: So, that 60k starter job didn't work out, huh? I'm not hired yet, so I am not giving up looking... Just because I have someone say they want to hire me, doesn't mean I stop looking... When I get my first pay check is when I will stop... |
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I am having the opposite problem... I am willing to go to another area and when I send my resume out, they all say I am not qualified because I do not live in the area they prefer... I come back with I am willing to relocate at my own expense and they give another BS response... Fuck the job market.... Obama will save us! ETA: So, that 60k starter job didn't work out, huh? I'm not hired yet, so I am not giving up looking... Just because I have someone say they want to hire me, doesn't mean I stop looking... When I get my first pay check is when I will stop... I would normally say I didn't see that story change coming.. But I think this one was predicted with you... Go figure. 
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What *is* it with people - especially IT recruiters. In the last two days, I have received inquiries from at least 2 (prolly more like 4) recruiters from NY and other places on the east coast. Now, on any of the sites that I have put my resume online, I specifically state that I am looking for work in Washington. That is WA. Not Washington D.C. and nearby (which I am sure these people think NYC is close enough to D.C. for me to want to relo). Why do I have to wade through these emails that come through, "Looking for Java developer" in the subject line to get way to the bottom only to find that the location is NYC or Annapolis! I usually reply to them saying that I am only looking for work in Washington and if they know of anyone in Washington to let me know. What I want to say is "please re-read my resume and where I'd like to work - because RIF!"
If people on the east coast don't know that there is another Washington in the union, then maybe we should leave. (ok, rant off) I've got the same thing happening. I figure that headhunters/recruiters has quotas, need to check that particular box. SO, when they cannot find enough locals they just reach... It's especially frustrating when you speak to the head hunter and specifically say "I'm not Relocating" and they persist. Grr. I had a $70k Art Director offer mid December, I was High Fiving myself in my head getting excited for a moment, and then he mentions that it's in Freaking Boston. I am in the same position as you and there's no way in hell I'm moving to Boston, or anywhere East of the Mississippi. Been up there, I don't like crowds, I think Cities Suck, I don't like people, and I find effected accents annoying. 
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What annoys me is when they can't tell the difference between MySQL database experience and MS SQL experience. Nothing about my resume says 'Microsoft Drone', its all embedded and Linux related –– yet I get calls from recruiters with accents so thick you can't understand them without an interpreter trying to place me for jobs in Redmond.
Not that I've ever had a recruiter actually get me into an interview either. IMHO they're not worth the time. And telecommuting is becoming more accepted, you just have to keep looking. |
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I am having the opposite problem... I am willing to go to another area and when I send my resume out, they all say I am not qualified because I do not live in the area they prefer... I come back with I am willing to relocate at my own expense and they give another BS response... Fuck the job market.... Obama will save us! ETA: So, that 60k starter job didn't work out, huh? I'm not hired yet, so I am not giving up looking... Just because I have someone say they want to hire me, doesn't mean I stop looking... When I get my first pay check is when I will stop... I would normally say I didn't see that story change coming.. But I think this one was predicted with you... Go figure.
Just curious, what in my "story" changed? I am still in the running for the job. I just won't find out until a bit later...
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Just curious, what in my "story" changed? I am still in the running for the job. I just won't find out until a bit later...Well, seems here in this thread you had the job and were giving everyone the finger for doubting you... Any of this ring a bell? But also, to those of you that put me down for declining the last job opportunity, it's a good thing I did... I got a job offer over in Spokane starting in about two months. Permanent, direct hire, full time, minimum starting of $65,000 a year, working on high voltage power supplies and backup systems. Sure is a LOT better than that $20k a year job that everyone made fun of me for declining... I told you that my own decisions I have made in life have gotten me farther than listening to others advice...
It seems to me that 3 weeks ago you HAD the job, now you don't, but are "in the running" (may I quote you on this in a few more weeks?). I also recall you bragging somewhere about your gun collection going WAY up soon (again, all based on an opportunity that you assumed you were getting). I too have applied for MANY open opportunities, none of them I have posted around here stating that I GOT the job, only to 3 weeks later say I don't. Once again, you've put your cart before the horse and ended up with your foot in your mouth! |
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Just curious, what in my "story" changed? I am still in the running for the job. I just won't find out until a bit later...Well, seems here in this thread you had the job and were giving everyone the finger for doubting you... Any of this ring a bell? But also, to those of you that put me down for declining the last job opportunity, it's a good thing I did... I got a job offer over in Spokane starting in about two months. Permanent, direct hire, full time, minimum starting of $65,000 a year, working on high voltage power supplies and backup systems. Sure is a LOT better than that $20k a year job that everyone made fun of me for declining... I told you that my own decisions I have made in life have gotten me farther than listening to others advice...
It seems to me that 3 weeks ago you HAD the job, now you don't, but are "in the running" (may I quote you on this in a few more weeks?). I also recall you bragging somewhere about your gun collection going WAY up soon (again, all based on an opportunity that you assumed you were getting). I too have applied for MANY open opportunities, none of them I have posted around here stating that I GOT the job, only to 3 weeks later say I don't. Once again, you've put your cart before the horse and ended up with your foot in your mouth! As it stands right now, yes, I am getting the job. What I am saying by I am "still in the running" is that nothing has changed... I am just waiting for the word to "come over to Spokane" and as soon as that happens I will be happy... But I am still not getting my hopes up 100%... They told me I had everything they want and had an impressive resume... Again, my story has not changed... They told me they would call if plans have changed and I haven't gotten that call just yet...
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Just curious, what in my "story" changed? <snip> <Snip> Once again, you've put your cart before the horse and ended up with your foot in your mouth! <SNIP> Again, my story has not changed... <Snip> Yet another, in a long string... A reminder, since you quickly forget. Quoted:
Neo- 1. I personally think you're a troll, or at best a fucking drama queen. 2. I personally don't think you have a job offer for $65K/yr. 3. The next bit of drama you post will relate to that job. Somehow, someway, it will. The "Report" button is up and to the right, the Sandy Mangina button is....sorry, no Sandy Mangina button
 . I guess you're just going to have to flush that out on your own, buttercup. The proof's all there in your posts and responses. I'm done giving you the benefit of the doubt. You can't seem to make an honest effort, you demonstrate a total inability to "color within the lines". Please come back when you can tolerate being honest and no longer wish to engage in misdirection as a common theme. |
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What annoys me is when they can't tell the difference between MySQL database experience and MS SQL experience. Nothing about my resume says 'Microsoft Drone', its all embedded and Linux related –– yet I get calls from recruiters with accents so thick you can't understand them without an interpreter trying to place me for jobs in Redmond. Not that I've ever had a recruiter actually get me into an interview either. IMHO they're not worth the time. And telecommuting is becoming more accepted, you just have to keep looking. F'N A... So tired of not understanding the initial caller... 
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Just curious, what in my "story" changed? I am still in the running for the job. I just won't find out until a bit later...Well, seems here in this thread you had the job and were giving everyone the finger for doubting you... Any of this ring a bell? But also, to those of you that put me down for declining the last job opportunity, it's a good thing I did... I got a job offer over in Spokane starting in about two months. Permanent, direct hire, full time, minimum starting of $65,000 a year, working on high voltage power supplies and backup systems. Sure is a LOT better than that $20k a year job that everyone made fun of me for declining... I told you that my own decisions I have made in life have gotten me farther than listening to others advice...
It seems to me that 3 weeks ago you HAD the job, now you don't, but are "in the running" (may I quote you on this in a few more weeks?). I also recall you bragging somewhere about your gun collection going WAY up soon (again, all based on an opportunity that you assumed you were getting). I too have applied for MANY open opportunities, none of them I have posted around here stating that I GOT the job, only to 3 weeks later say I don't. Once again, you've put your cart before the horse and ended up with your foot in your mouth! As it stands right now, yes, I am getting the job. What I am saying by I am "still in the running" is that nothing has changed... I am just waiting for the word to "come over to Spokane" and as soon as that happens I will be happy... But I am still not getting my hopes up 100%... They told me I had everything they want and had an impressive resume... Again, my story has not changed... They told me they would call if plans have changed and I haven't gotten that call just yet...  Yet another, in a long string...
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You guys should really grow up and quit with the attacks, seriously.... 
I don't understand why it is so hard to comprehend that this job is still a reality for me... Shit happens and I am ready for it to swing either way. I might get it, I might not, but as it stands I am moving in another month, so back off my shit... I have been dropping past shit... You ladies should do the same... The only other person I know that holds something this long is my fucking wife... |
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Emails....online.....for fuck's sake.....hit delete and stop whining.
20 years ago, job hunting was done with shoe leather....you wound up in places like Alaska, Saudi Arabia, Indosnesia, or even worse, California. Damn kids these days..... Spoiled.....rotton.....ruined..... |
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Emails....online.....for fuck's sake.....hit delete and stop whining. 20 years ago, job hunting was done with shoe leather....you wound up in places like Alaska, Saudi Arabia, Indosnesia, or even worse, California. Damn kids these days..... Spoiled.....rotton.....ruined..... I do a mixture of both internet and walking... To me, applying in person is, well... More personal and gives the employer a better feel for your personality. However, you don't always get to meet the person doing the hiring... Locally, I do it on foot... Other jobs, I am doing online... Mainly because they are limited access areas... |
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Quoted: Well for better or worse, I've had 3 recruiters come out of the woodwork smelling blood at the soft drink factory ... they're recruiting what they can out of the factory given the public rumors. Met one of them today, and they had a decent offer, matched stock forfeits with money, etc. Stunned me for a bit, but since I survived the hatchet this round, I figure I might as well stay, kept the business card though.What *is* it with people - especially IT recruiters. In the last two days, I have received inquiries from at least 2 (prolly more like 4) recruiters from NY and other places on the east coast. Now, on any of the sites that I have put my resume online, I specifically state that I am looking for work in Washington. That is WA. Not Washington D.C. and nearby (which I am sure these people think NYC is close enough to D.C. for me to want to relo). Why do I have to wade through these emails that come through, "Looking for Java developer" in the subject line to get way to the bottom only to find that the location is NYC or Annapolis! I usually reply to them saying that I am only looking for work in Washington and if they know of anyone in Washington to let me know. What I want to say is "please re-read my resume and where I'd like to work - because RIF!" If people on the east coast don't know that there is another Washington in the union, then maybe we should leave. (ok, rant off) They other coaster based recruiters might be trying to hit an ex soft drink factory employee ... searching for Washington / Seattle / Redmond blindly. Moral of the story: feel lucky you're at least still worthy enough to be bought and sold like a piece of meat  |
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You guys should really grow up and quit with the attacks, seriously....
I don't understand why it is so hard to comprehend that this job is still a reality for me... Shit happens and I am ready for it to swing either way. I might get it, I might not, but as it stands I am moving in another month, so back off my shit... I have been dropping past shit... You ladies should do the same... The only other person I know that holds something this long is my fucking wife... The only thing you've been dropping is the ball of lies you carry around. I was very serious when I told you I would weigh each of your posts based it's individual merit. You have yet to maintain a stable thread that was not full of Fail, mostly your own. You've got a lot of growing up to do before you'll be taken seriously again by most of this group here. |
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You guys should really grow up and quit with the attacks, seriously....
I don't understand why it is so hard to comprehend that this job is still a reality for me... Shit happens and I am ready for it to swing either way. I might get it, I might not, but as it stands I am moving in another month, so back off my shit... I have been dropping past shit... You ladies should do the same... The only other person I know that holds something this long is my fucking wife... The only thing you've been dropping is the ball of lies you carry around. I was very serious when I told you I would weigh each of your posts based it's individual merit. You have yet to maintain a stable thread that was not full of Fail, mostly your own. You've got a lot of growing up to do before you'll be taken seriously again by most of this group here. Fine, here is the job detail that the company sent me... Since you seem to be "calling my bluff." How is this a lie? Please tell me? Would you like me to send you the voice mails and e-mails the company has sent me regarding pay and benefits, along with when I would be possibly starting? Please, again, tell me where I lied and have "changed my story." By all means... Please....  What is funny is that they set the salary... I asked for a meager $35k a year and they told me that wouldn't do... They bumped MY request of $35k to $65k....
Job Title Electronic Field Service Engineer
Location Spokane, WA Job Description Job Description: Global manufacturer who is #1 in market share seeks electronic Field Service Engineers As a field service engineer you will work independently to service your customers within an hour of two of your home. Your time will be spent on customer service, new installations, preventive/corrective maintenance and equipment modifications. Responsibilities: Perform Startup/Commissioning, Preventive Maintenance and Corrective/Unscheduled Maintenance on all equipment. - Perform Advanced and Custom Audits of customer's site, working with Sales to complete Availability Assessments. - Perform Installation consulting services at customer site as well as over the phone. - Work with customers, contractors, other members of the team, Sales Partners, Tech Support, and Regional Manager to resolve escalated problems. - Document all required information for each site visit performed. - Manage installation projects as well as unit replacement when necessary. - Properly document, label, and return all defective parts utilized in the repair of equipment to the designated disposal/repair location. - Educate customers on basic operation of their equipment. Inform customers of issues which they may have experience with their equipment in a way which is beneficial to the customer. - Certification of Service Partners. - Evaluate technical and professional performance of Service Partners. - Provide supervision, training, and monitoring to other team members. Skills Needed: Strong customer service and electronic skills required. Minimum of associates degree in electronics or military electronic/electrical expereince. Rates such as Aviation Electrician. Aviation Technician, Nuclear Electrician Mate, Nuclear Electronic Technician, Fire Controlman, Prime Power, Power Productions, Electrical Utility, Torpedoman, Missile Technician, Interior Communication, Avionics and other specialties with medium to high voltage experience. Salary: Based upon skill set, company vehicle lap top, cell phone, matching 401K, and full benefits. |
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Christ! Will you jackasses just take it to IM's?
So Neo might be a dipshit (hell if I know), so you may get your rocks off calling him out every time he posts (sure looks like it). Quit shitting all over other folks threads just so you can regale the rest of us with your intimate knowledge of his posting history in front of the rest of us. I, personally, don't give a flying fuck who said what to whom wherever and whenever. And I'm getting pretty goddamn sick of reading all these little soap opera posts here in the WAHTF. Hey, mods, can we get a new WAHTF created? Maybe call it 'These are the nags of our lives?' Maybe I oughtta move to Idaho... 
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Christ! Will you jackasses just take it to IM's? So Neo might be a dipshit (hell if I know), so you may get your rocks off calling him out every time he posts (sure looks like it). Quit shitting all over other folks threads just so you can regale the rest of us with your intimate knowledge of his posting history in front of the rest of us. I, personally, don't give a flying fuck who said what to whom wherever and whenever. And I'm getting pretty goddamn sick of reading all these little soap opera posts here in the WAHTF. Hey, mods, can we get a new WAHTF created? Maybe call it 'These are the nags of our lives?' Maybe I oughtta move to Idaho... ID? Cool. I live near ID! Now what was the rest of all of that about? Nevermind, I can see now it is the difference between MySQL database experience and MS SQL experience. 
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Job Title Electronic Field Service Engineer
Location Spokane, WA Job Description Job Description: Global manufacturer who is #1 in market share seeks electronic Field Service Engineers As a field service engineer you will work independently to service your customers within an hour of two of your home. Your time will be spent on customer service, new installations, preventive/corrective maintenance and equipment modifications. Responsibilities: Perform Startup/Commissioning, Preventive Maintenance and Corrective/Unscheduled Maintenance on all equipment. - Perform Advanced and Custom Audits of customer's site, working with Sales to complete Availability Assessments. - Perform Installation consulting services at customer site as well as over the phone. - Work with customers, contractors, other members of the team, Sales Partners, Tech Support, and Regional Manager to resolve escalated problems. - Document all required information for each site visit performed. - Manage installation projects as well as unit replacement when necessary. - Properly document, label, and return all defective parts utilized in the repair of equipment to the designated disposal/repair location. - Educate customers on basic operation of their equipment. Inform customers of issues which they may have experience with their equipment in a way which is beneficial to the customer. - Certification of Service Partners. - Evaluate technical and professional performance of Service Partners. - Provide supervision, training, and monitoring to other team members. Skills Needed: Strong customer service and electronic skills required. Minimum of associates degree in electronics or military electronic/electrical expereince. Rates such as Aviation Electrician. Aviation Technician, Nuclear Electrician Mate, Nuclear Electronic Technician, Fire Controlman, Prime Power, Power Productions, Electrical Utility, Torpedoman, Missile Technician, Interior Communication, Avionics and other specialties with medium to high voltage experience. Salary: Based upon skill set, company vehicle lap top, cell phone, matching 401K, and full benefits. Nice! 
HOW long did it take you to type that up?
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