Posted: 12/24/2008 6:07:16 PM EDT
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Is it legal in Washington State to have a Full Auto BCG in your AR?
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RCW 9.41.220
Unlawful firearms and parts contraband. All machine guns, short-barreled shotguns, or short-barreled rifles, or any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for use in a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, or in converting a weapon into a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, illegally held or illegally possessed are hereby declared to be contraband, and it shall be the duty of all peace officers, and/or any officer or member of the armed forces of the United States or the state of Washington, to seize said machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, or parts thereof, wherever and whenever found. you decide for yourself if it will be solely and exclusively be used in a machine gun and not in a semi auto rifle and make your choice accordingly |
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RCW 9.41.220
Unlawful firearms and parts contraband. All machine guns, short-barreled shotguns, or short-barreled rifles, or any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for use in a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, or in converting a weapon into a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, illegally held or illegally possessed are hereby declared to be contraband, and it shall be the duty of all peace officers, and/or any officer or member of the armed forces of the United States or the state of Washington, to seize said machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, or parts thereof, wherever and whenever found. you decide for yourself if it will be solely and exclusively be used in a machine gun and not in a semi auto rifle and make your choice accordingly My buddy will sleep more soundly 
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For the record, my CMMG $650 dollar parts bin special came with one, and I caught a lot of flack from West Coast Armory over how it was illegal (didn't stop them from taking my 35 dollar transfer fee, however.)
I bought my first post-ban Colt, brand new, during the ban, with an M16 BCG in it... |
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why bother? the semi carrier is well established as working fine, if it came with one I wouldn't worry but there's not much need to specifically try to find one I'm in the market for a BCG i'll take either but if i find a Full auto BCG i wanted to be sure it was legal in Washington State. Aren't they built a little heavier also? |
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For the record, my CMMG $650 dollar parts bin special came with one, and I caught a lot of flack from West Coast Armory over how it was illegal (didn't stop them from taking my 35 dollar transfer fee, however.) http://www.quarterbore.com/images/boltcarrier.gif I bought my first post-ban Colt, brand new, during the ban, with an M16 BCG in it... There is a 4th style that I have, it is like the M16 carrier but it too short on the ammount of about 3/16-1/4 of an inch to make it so you cannot use it in a F/A gun. Best of both worlds, has the weight, with no questiosn about it's legality. |
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For the record, my CMMG $650 dollar parts bin special came with one, and I caught a lot of flack from West Coast Armory over how it was illegal (didn't stop them from taking my 35 dollar transfer fee, however.) http://www.quarterbore.com/images/boltcarrier.gif I bought my first post-ban Colt, brand new, during the ban, with an M16 BCG in it... Why were they finger fucking the insides of your rifle? |
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Quoted: Because they mofo'rs! They're the only gun store around Sammamish/Issaquah. Most of their customers come from Sammamish (read as rich kids and daddie-o's with nannies), and think 50% premiums over other gun stores just about 5 miles away is the price of convenience.Quoted: For the record, my CMMG $650 dollar parts bin special came with one, and I caught a lot of flack from West Coast Armory over how it was illegal (didn't stop them from taking my 35 dollar transfer fee, however.) http://www.quarterbore.com/images/boltcarrier.gif I bought my first post-ban Colt, brand new, during the ban, with an M16 BCG in it... Why were they finger fucking the insides of your rifle? That and they charged me over and above full price for what they said they were going to match when I wanted to transfer a lower. When it came, they not only did not meet the online price deal, they charged above it by some 25%  For reference, don't do business with the big bald dude. The short dude or the owner is better to deal with. ETA: and they're spewing stuff like they know someting to establish themselves as experts, when they're actually B.S. out of their asses. They look to be the beginning of another Wade's gunstore might as well change their name to same. |
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For the record, my CMMG $650 dollar parts bin special came with one, and I caught a lot of flack from West Coast Armory over how it was illegal (didn't stop them from taking my 35 dollar transfer fee, however.) http://www.quarterbore.com/images/boltcarrier.gif I bought my first post-ban Colt, brand new, during the ban, with an M16 BCG in it... There is a 4th style that I have, it is like the M16 carrier but it too short on the ammount of about 3/16-1/4 of an inch to make it so you cannot use it in a F/A gun. Best of both worlds, has the weight, with no questiosn about it's legality. Young manufacturing makes that type. |
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Because they mofo'rs! They're the only gun store around Sammamish/Issaquah. Most of their customers come from Sammamish (read as rich kids and daddie-o's with nannies), and think 50% premiums over other gun stores just about 5 miles away is the price of convenience.
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For the record, my CMMG $650 dollar parts bin special came with one, and I caught a lot of flack from West Coast Armory over how it was illegal (didn't stop them from taking my 35 dollar transfer fee, however.) http://www.quarterbore.com/images/boltcarrier.gif I bought my first post-ban Colt, brand new, during the ban, with an M16 BCG in it... Why were they finger fucking the insides of your rifle? That and they charged me over and above full price for what they said they were going to match when I wanted to transfer a lower. When it came, they not only did not meet the online price deal, they charged above it by some 25%
For reference, don't do business with the big bald dude. The short dude or the owner is better to deal with. ETA: and they're spewing stuff like they know someting to establish themselves as experts, when they're actually B.S. out of their asses. They look to be the beginning of another Wade's gunstore might as well change their name to same. I don't think much of Worst Coast Armory either. I once asked them about doing a transfer for a product they didn't carry. They said sure for $50. I asked why so much when others are doing transfers for $25-$30? He replied: "Why should I lower my fee? Just to keep a customer? And ATF is making us do a lot more paper work now" Total BS. I also asked them about an issue I was having with a Colt rifle. The first question they asked was if I'd purchased the firearm from them. I hadn't. They refused to assist me at that point, got snootty, and arrogantly said I could send it back to Colt "but don't expect them to help you because you're just a civ." Note, Worst Coast claims to be certified Colt armorers and are Colt dealers. So much for service (and I wasn't expecting something for free, but the discussion never got that far). Well, I did send the rifle back to Colt. Colt did resolve my problem, in a timely manner, and free of charge. WRT to changing prices, that appears to be an SOP for them. They did that to a co-worker of mine. He ordered a pistol from Worst Coast at one price (something they typically stock), and when he arrived to pay for it the price had increased $50. When he inquired about the price delta, he was told "sorry, the manufacturer increased the price since you ordered." Sounds a lot transfer fee, doesn't it? So, IMHO, Worst Coast Armory is not credible. YMMV, but I find their honesty questionable. |
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Yeah, Fat Bald Man struck me as a bit of a chairmando too. He's professional but not very personable. Nearly gave my wife a wrong steer about WA state hunting regs too. There's no 5-round mag limit here, dumbass.
They did my RPK-74 transfer very quickly and professionally, but I've heard through the grapevine that they're bumping transfers to 10% of gun cost. If that's actually the case, they can sell to somebody else. Lance and one of the other guys there has always been helpful, but they seem to have a couple other people on the staff there that are the archetypal gun counter idiots. |
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10% above cost xfers: That they are.
For the record I avoided bald dude and dealt with the stockier guy, but we was the one who fed me the line about the illegal BCG. Other than that the customer service could have been better, but I was 24 and transferring a $650 dollar rifle through a store that even then had 6920s at 1700 dollars. No fucking idea why he had my rifle apart... You'd be pissed too if ya had to transfer a beaut like this while not selling Colts for 500 over MSRP
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