Posted: 9/2/2008 12:34:12 PM EDT
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been just a "while" since I have been to a concert, but can I carry at a concert at the Key Arena? from the Seattle Center web site it looks like I can(it says yes if a CWP on the campus, which included the buildings) ....but not sure what happens at the gates of the concert? not like this is a roawdy crowd but still I feel better with my J frame with me 3. Weapons It is prohibited to: a. Sell, manufacture, purchase, possess or carry any blackjack, sand-club, metal knuckles, switchblade knife, chako sticks, or throwing stars; or b. Carry concealed or unconcealed on his or her person any dangerous knife unless used as a tool for work by Seattle Center employees or their authorized agents, or carry concealed on his or her person any weapon. Seattle Center employees are subject to the Seattle Center Employees Firearm Policy. c. Possess a firearm on the campus, except that such restriction shall not apply to any pistol in the possession of a person licensed under RCW 9.41.070 or exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060. |
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Key Arena is not covered in 9.41.300. Key Arena is a Public Facility, owned and operated. Concerts at Key Arena are not Outdoor Music Festivals. Key Arena is a publicly owned and run facility and RCW 9.41.290 (State preemption) applies. Key Arena used to try and bar licensed CPL holders from carrying on the premises. After they were educated about the relevant RCWs, and exposed in the Seattle PI for also barring off duty LEOs from carrying, the policy was reversed. The arena may have signs posted saying no weapons allowed, they don't mean a thing. There may on occasion be events held in Key Arena that would bar CPL holders from carrying, high schools holding graduation ceremonies, etc under RCW9.41.280 (Possessing dangerous weapons on school facilities — Penalty — Exceptions)
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I went to an NBA game and carried. The catch is you can carry legaly but the event may be wepons free, by buying the ticket you agree to it. NFL games are this way. It's legal to cary at Safco Feild but it's against the agreement you have with the NFL and if you have a wepon you can be forced to leave, ie tresspasing. NFL games have security checkers. Ankle holsters work tho What I would do is go to the concert check out security if there metal detectors or they are frisking people take the gun back to the car. |
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In addition Safeco & QWest Fields are different than Key Arena. 9.41.300 deals with stadiums controlled or operated by a political subdivision (city, county, state, etc), NOT private facilities. The way Safeco & QWest are set up with leases they are private facilities.
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My feeble mind doesn't comprehend the wording... With a CPL... Yes legal to carry at Key Arena. Concerts there, yes because they are not an outdoor festival. Yes legal to carry at NBA games, but you might be tossed if the NBA is anti gun/knife. Yes legal to carry at M's or Hawks games at Safeco and Qwest base on the above. But NO carry to a graduation ceremony because the school laws carry over to events even though they are off campus? |
| All the concerts i have been to in the las few years like 6 or so they have been friskin people.. you might get away with an ankle.. depends on your frisker. sometimes they run all the way down your legs sometimes they dont.. you can always try and return it to the car.. |
No carry at Ms or Hawks games because they are run as Private Properties and the owners say no. |
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those were my (what I have left)memories as well.....but years ago Ozzy, Van Halen etc etc......but I gotta figure the ND crowd is pretty mellow and not patting down the old folks and we are takin my (oldish)folks
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But wouldn't that be like going into Lowes or Safeway. They might have a sign at the door that says no go, but all they really have the right to do is ask you to leave? |
Pretty much except they can keep your ticket that you paid good money for, you'll already have given it to them, and tresspass you from the premise, right before they eject you. |
Ah got ya Phil great info! |
Thanks, that's what I was looking for. I have carried to Safeco because I know they don't do pat downs and I figured I was taking a risk of being kicked out. Sometimes personal safety in SoDo/Pioneer Square is worth more than a baseball ticket! Not to mention, it's concealed for a reason right? |
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ment to update but forgot they checked Connie and Mom's bags/purse at the door, but didnt give me a 2nd look....even though I had a HK hat and cargo pants on(which I couldnt have stashed about anything in) So no issues at all packing at the Key. great show BTW.......old guy can still belt out the toons.....but talk about an old crowd, we(at 38 and 42) were about the youngest there |