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10/16/2006 6:18:06 AM EDT
Nipponese at the YTC
10/16/2006 6:22:52 AM EDT
[#1]
19 posts before it goes crazy.........
10/16/2006 6:25:15 AM EDT
[#2]
10/16/2006 6:43:40 AM EDT
[#3]
10/16/2006 7:16:23 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
home1.gte.net/res0p1ia/leader.jpg


Is this in reply to my IM to you Strat? If so, you should have kept my suggestion and that discussion within IMs. I don't think you really want to debate it out in the open.

If you do, get started. I'm here.
10/16/2006 7:33:16 AM EDT
[#5]
That's Cool...  Got to keep our Allies Up to snuff. I served with a couple of Japanese troops in Saudi for a little while.

Good Folks, and could drink you under the freaking table.


ETA  NO not in Saudi.  Saudi is a "Dry Country" out of respect for our "Darling" hosts there was NO Alcohol...  Anywhere, Ever...  
10/16/2006 7:37:06 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
That's Cool...  Got to keep our Allies Up to snuff. I served with a couple of Japanese troops in Saudi for a little while.

Good Folks, and could drink you under the freaking table.


ETA  NO not in Saudi.  Saudi is a "Dry Country" out of respect for our "Darling" hosts there was NO Alcohol...  Anywhere, Ever...  




I thought it was Water....

Afterall, it was in a water bottle.

10/16/2006 7:57:03 AM EDT
[#7]
Cobras!!!!
10/16/2006 8:07:56 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
That's Cool...  Got to keep our Allies Up to snuff. I served with a couple of Japanese troops in Saudi for a little while.

Good Folks, and could drink you under the freaking table.


ETA  NO not in Saudi.  Saudi is a "Dry Country" out of respect for our "Darling" hosts there was NO Alcohol...  Anywhere, Ever...  




I thought it was Water....

Afterall, it was in a water bottle.



I have NO Idea what your talking about...  
10/16/2006 8:25:23 AM EDT
[#9]
Tha Japanese have been going to YTC for years. I remmember the first time I saw a "Meatball" flag out in the field, There were about a 150 of them.



Besides, they already own Hawaii....


Don't they?...
10/16/2006 8:35:29 AM EDT
[#10]
I'd rather have them on our side this time around.
10/16/2006 9:41:45 AM EDT
[#11]
They have been training at YTC for years and they are in Iraq doing a fine job, why shouldnt they train here, many other do.
10/16/2006 10:05:15 AM EDT
[#12]
JAL has a pilot training facility at the Grant County airport. I guess the Japanese have invaded Moses Lake, too. Probably sneaking troops and equipment in on those airliners and amassing an invasion force in their secret underground bunker beneath Moses Lake.
10/16/2006 10:06:10 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
They have been training at YTC for years and they are in Iraq doing a fine job, why shouldnt they train here, many other do.


I've seen Canadians, British, Germans and Italians "invading" our state, too.
10/16/2006 10:10:28 AM EDT
[#14]
I dont harbour any ill-will towards the japanese...  They hit us with our pants down and we nuked their asses twice.  Id say they are square with the house now.  Considering the enemy we are faced with now, the japs looked down right honorable.  Batan death march included.
10/16/2006 10:15:33 AM EDT
[#15]
Nice to see they are on board for the big win.
10/16/2006 11:30:23 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Batan death march included.


I was tracking with you right up until this part.

The way the Japanese treated EPW's and others in other country's was on par and many times worse. Beheadings, torture,rape, and all on scales that were 20 times plus what we see now.

Lets be glad that we get along now, but lets not be so quick to forget what they have done to your brother Marines and fellow serviceman.


Ok to forgive, if you want, but dont forget.
10/16/2006 11:49:32 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Batan death march included.


I was tracking with you right up until this part.

The way the Japanese treated EPW's and others in other country's was on par and many times worse. Beheadings, torture,rape, and all on scales that were 20 times plus what we see now.

Lets be glad that we get along now, but lets not be so quick to forget what they have done to your brother Marines and fellow serviceman.


Ok to forgive, if you want, but dont forget.


If I came off sounding like the Batan death march was just fine and dandy, then its my bust.  

What I mean is that on average, the japanese were tough and honorable warriors.  The batan death march was a true tragedy, almost as nasty as Nazi atrocities.  But I cant stress the fact that we got the last laugh on their asses.  THAT is why I say its time to let bygones be bygones so to speak.

Im no flaming lib-tard.  I whole heartedly agree that nuking japan was the right choice, but the pain and suffering inflicted on the poeple of japan was equally as awful as anything the japanese ever did to us.

do you see where Im comming from with this?
10/16/2006 12:05:57 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

do you see where Im comming from with this?


Good to go...
10/16/2006 6:33:53 PM EDT
[#19]
And just what does the Japanese Militia have to say about this?...HHmmmmmm????????

10/16/2006 6:42:48 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
And just what does the Japanese Militia have to say about this?...HHmmmmmm????????



There is no Japanese militia thats why they lost world war two,
10/16/2006 6:52:57 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
And just what does the Japanese Militia have to say about this?...HHmmmmmm????????



There is no Japanese militia thats why they lost world war two,


Way before my time, but some of us are now masquerading as americans
10/16/2006 6:55:49 PM EDT
[#22]


IBTL!
10/16/2006 7:09:20 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
And just what does the Japanese Militia have to say about this?...HHmmmmmm????????



There is no Japanese militia thats why they lost world war two,


Way before my time, but some of us are now masquerading as americans


None of us choose our genealogy but we can effect our nationality, Americans of japanese decent were not the only Americans to be locked up, it happened to many Americans of german decent as well.

10/16/2006 7:14:47 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
None of us choose our genealogy but we can effect our nationality,


Never felt the need myself... unless that's backpeddaling I hear?
10/16/2006 7:19:30 PM EDT
[#25]
My dad was an Italian immigrant he was detained for a few months. Then the Army offered the opportunity to join up. He did and translated during the invasions of Sicily and Italy. Not to brag but he got several commendations along the way. That is in my opinion a patriot. (got him citizenship also)
10/16/2006 7:29:48 PM EDT
[#26]
One thing that never seems to be discussed is the anti german discrimination durring/after the 1st world war...  But history doesnt care about that because they are white.
10/16/2006 8:19:01 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
My dad was an Italian immigrant he was detained for a few months. Then the Army offered the opportunity to join up. He did and translated during the invasions of Sicily and Italy. Not to brag but he got several commendations along the way. That is in my opinion a patriot. (got him citizenship also)


I agree I commend people willing give to get legally and become citizens of this country let alone the ones who have the gift of living here and still serve this country...

Look at the 442nd Regimental Combat Team. Some of which were not citizens, locked up in "relocation" camps, and when given the chance became some of the most patriotic "Americans" there are in my opinion...
10/16/2006 11:19:45 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
19 posts before it goes crazy.........



you lose..
10/17/2006 6:53:15 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
And just what does the Japanese Militia have to say about this?...HHmmmmmm????????



There is no Japanese militia thats why they lost world war two,


Actually, that's why they got nuked. We were so afraid of how stong a defense their citizens would put up against an invasion of the home islands that we figured a nuke would save lives on both sides. So you could blame the first use of nuclear weapons on the militia
10/17/2006 6:55:54 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
One thing that never seems to be discussed is the anti german discrimination durring/after the 1st world war...  But history doesnt care about that because they are white.


There was an interesting show on the history of beer in the US and they did cover the anti-German sentiment during and after the wars. Many of the beer manufacturers had to branch out into other businesses in order to keep from going belly up. Prohibition also had a large effect on them as well.

10/17/2006 8:12:12 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
One thing that never seems to be discussed is the anti german discrimination durring/after the 1st world war...  But history doesnt care about that because they are white.


There was an interesting show on the history of beer in the US and they did cover the anti-German sentiment during and after the wars. Many of the beer manufacturers had to branch out into other businesses in order to keep from going belly up. Prohibition also had a large effect on them as well.



Can you imagine an America without beer?!!!  
10/17/2006 8:13:52 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
One thing that never seems to be discussed is the anti german discrimination durring/after the 1st world war...  But history doesnt care about that because they are white.


There was an interesting show on the history of beer in the US and they did cover the anti-German sentiment during and after the wars. Many of the beer manufacturers had to branch out into other businesses in order to keep from going belly up. Prohibition also had a large effect on them as well.



Can you imagine an America without beer?!!!  


yup



10/17/2006 12:42:44 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Batan death march included.


I was tracking with you right up until this part.

The way the Japanese treated EPW's and others in other country's was on par and many times worse. Beheadings, torture,rape, and all on scales that were 20 times plus what we see now.

Lets be glad that we get along now, but lets not be so quick to forget what they have done to your brother Marines and fellow serviceman.


Ok to forgive, if you want, but dont forget.


If I came off sounding like the Batan death march was just fine and dandy, then its my bust.  

What I mean is that on average, the japanese were tough and honorable warriors. The batan death march was a true tragedy, almost as nasty as Nazi atrocities.  But I cant stress the fact that we got the last laugh on their asses.  THAT is why I say its time to let bygones be bygones so to speak.

Im no flaming lib-tard.  I whole heartedly agree that nuking japan was the right choice, but the pain and suffering inflicted on the poeple of japan was equally as awful as anything the japanese ever did to us.

do you see where Im comming from with this?


Bullshit. They committed just as many atrocities as the Germans, just perhaps not quite as large of a scale. The Bataan Death March was only one example of their barbarity. They were so fucking sick that they put anthrax into chocolate and fed it to Chinese children. They dropped shitloads of plague infested fleas over areas just to see how they affected the population so they could assess how well it'd work against America. Warriors my ass, they were mostly a bunch of collectivist savages who worshipped some scumbag emperor.
10/17/2006 1:20:17 PM EDT
[#34]
I'm 2 miles from YTC right now
10/17/2006 1:39:42 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
I'm 2 miles from YTC right now


Don't let them know, if they find out they will flee in terror and you could be charged with terrorism under the commissions act of 2006.
10/17/2006 1:51:27 PM EDT
[#36]
So, I'm lost.  Is this thread about how the Japanese should NOT be training in YTC or how they SHOULD be training at YTC or how they are secretly planning to take over YTC or how they've been planning this since WW2 when they dropped copies of "Yatta" on the guatamalans...

Yours truly,
-Lost
10/17/2006 2:09:26 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm 2 miles from YTC right now


Don't let them know, if they find out they will flee in terror and you could be charged with terrorism under the commissions act of 2006.


Or they might tie him down for their latest bukkake movie.
10/17/2006 2:10:56 PM EDT
[#38]
i almost fell out of my chair
10/17/2006 4:41:47 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:


Bullshit. They committed just as many atrocities as the Germans, just perhaps not quite as large of a scale. The Bataan Death March was only one example of their barbarity. They were so fucking sick that they put anthrax into chocolate and fed it to Chinese children.Ill admit, thats fucked up, but I have seen stuff similar to it done by our own guys in Iraq They dropped shitloads of plague infested fleas over areas just to see how they affected the population so they could assess how well it'd work against America.small-pox blankets anyone? Id be willing to bet most large nations have done this kind of thing.  It doesnt make it right, but you know the US has done this at one time on another. Warriors my ass, they were mostly a bunch of collectivist savages Youre intitled to your opinion, but I think that is kind of a broad stroke. who worshipped some scumbag emperor.


The japanese may have done some horrible shit, but our own .gov has pulled off some equally heinous acts.  Any soldier who continues to fight on for years without orders form higher is a good warrior in my book.
10/17/2006 5:53:12 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:


Bullshit. They committed just as many atrocities as the Germans, just perhaps not quite as large of a scale. The Bataan Death March was only one example of their barbarity. They were so fucking sick that they put anthrax into chocolate and fed it to Chinese children.Ill admit, thats fucked up, but I have seen stuff similar to it done by our own guys in Iraq WTF? and you didnt report it....They dropped shitloads of plague infested fleas over areas just to see how they affected the population so they could assess how well it'd work against America...Are you saying that our country committed acts of BIO warfare in Iraq???....I find that hard to believe....small-pox blankets anyone? Id be willing to bet most large nations have done this kind of thing.  It doesnt make it right, but you know the US has done this at one time on another. Warriors my ass, they were mostly a bunch of collectivist savages Youre intitled to your opinion, but I think that is kind of a broad stroke. who worshipped some scumbag emperor.


The japanese may have done some horrible shit, but our own .gov has pulled off some equally heinous acts.  Any soldier who continues to fight on for years without orders form higher is a good warrior in my book.
10/17/2006 5:54:43 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:


Bullshit. They committed just as many atrocities as the Germans, just perhaps not quite as large of a scale. The Bataan Death March was only one example of their barbarity. They were so fucking sick that they put anthrax into chocolate and fed it to Chinese children.Ill admit, thats fucked up, but I have seen stuff similar to it done by our own guys in Iraq WTF? and you didnt report it....They dropped shitloads of plague infested fleas over areas just to see how they affected the population so they could assess how well it'd work against America...Are you saying that our country committed acts of BIO warfare in Iraq???....I find that hard to believe....small-pox blankets anyone? Id be willing to bet most large nations have done this kind of thing.  It doesnt make it right, but you know the US has done this at one time on another. Warriors my ass, they were mostly a bunch of collectivist savages Youre intitled to your opinion, but I think that is kind of a broad stroke. who worshipped some scumbag emperor.


The japanese may have done some horrible shit, but our own .gov has pulled off some equally heinous acts.  Any soldier who continues to fight on for years without orders form higher is a good warrior in my book.


Oh here we go with the multicolored inline editing.  Do you people know how hard that crap is to read!? (Or is that the point?)
10/17/2006 6:14:45 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:

Are you saying that our country committed acts of BIO warfare in Iraq???....I find that hard to believe....



Quoted: small-pox blankets anyone?
Who said anything about Iraq and BIO warfare.?


Ill admit, thats fucked up, but I have seen stuff similar to it done by our own guys in Iraq WTF? and you didnt report it....  

It wasnt anthrax, but it was pretty gross and in some case deadly... But I know for a fact that the tracker guys who re RIPed with used to wipe candy on shit and give it to iraqis.  Human shit is very dangerous to eat, but it isnt 'ANTHRAX" either.  I never said I condoned it.  But the point of my original post was this.  What makes giving diseased candy to kids horrible, but 2 nuking non military cities more honorable?
10/17/2006 6:25:47 PM EDT
[#43]
You will never see me defending the US government either. As a matter of fact, I have a general disdain for ALL governments. I'm sure there were some Japanese warriors, but most were just dolts falling in line.
10/17/2006 6:33:41 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
You will never see me defending the US government either. As a matter of fact, I have a general disdain for ALL governments. I'm sure there were some Japanese warriors, but most were just dolts falling in line.


Im not here to stroke the off japanese or "give them respect"  Im just saying that the war is over.  They did some bad shit.  WE did some bad shit.  I cant say it enough times that I am not trying to trivialize the war crimes of Imperial Japan.  Im just saying that the average "JAP" fought with a code, and for the most bart when they surendered the fighting stopped and peace was restored.  They paid a heavy price for what they did to us.  I think the dropping the nuke was divine justice in a way,  but it IS over.
10/17/2006 7:42:22 PM EDT
[#45]
Given what is happening in their back yard with North Korea (Nukes, Shooting Missiles over their country, open hostility, etc), I say let em train until they are blue in the face.  
10/17/2006 9:03:52 PM EDT
[#46]
Some of you are acting like this is something new.  We've been training and training with them, and other countries, both in their contries, and in ours for decades.  Foreign troops have been to our training centers.  They've been taught by our instructors.  From onesies and twosies in Ranger School, to air defense artillery in Ft. Bliss.  It's not a prelude to an invasion, or the .gov getting ready to hand over sovereignty (is that even a word?) to the UN.  It's training with those that the government finds friendly at the time.
As many of you live in the Tacoma (meaning Ft. Lewis, and McChord) area, you act surprised everytime you see a foreign vehicle on a flat bed as if it's not been happening since before you were born