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8/16/2006 6:26:23 PM EDT
3 fifty fucking 9 for diesel?  It was a steal at $3.41 on my way to work this morning.

Thank Allah for my TOYOOYAAAA.
8/16/2006 6:36:24 PM EDT
[#1]
dug up from my memory, I seem to recall deisel is the easiest to refine.
8/16/2006 6:40:41 PM EDT
[#2]
That's why I don't drive a diesel
8/16/2006 6:50:36 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
dug up from my memory, I seem to recall deisel is the easiest to refine.


It used to be a lot cheaper than gas, because there was a lot of it left after refining. Now, they squeeze so much gas out of a barrel of oil, there ain't much diesel left.
8/16/2006 6:54:56 PM EDT
[#4]
Used to be cheaper, it is easier to refine. The oil company's saw those manufactures changing to diesel motors they raised the price over gas. They have been screwing us for allot longer that people realize. (just be happy you don't drive an 18 wheeler.
8/16/2006 7:56:00 PM EDT
[#5]
Bought gas in Tacoma for $2.79/gal this weekend.    Wanted to fill my trunk...
8/16/2006 8:03:06 PM EDT
[#6]
Look into Biodiesel.
8/16/2006 8:17:29 PM EDT
[#7]
I damn near had a heart attack when I saw the fuel bill for my fire station last month

8/16/2006 8:26:49 PM EDT
[#8]
Definitly less diesel right now. For one, summer time is max gasoline mode.
Another big factor is that with the recent transition into ultra low surfer diesel (<15ppm) their is some feed stock(high sulfer diesel) that now now has to leave
local refinery(s) due to lack of equipment to reach 15 ppm sulfer.
Not to mention the companys are not going to absorb the cost of the new/updated units all on their own.

Finally something I can offer a little input on around here!
To bad it concerns such a bad subject.
8/16/2006 8:53:48 PM EDT
[#9]
TOYOOOOOOOOTTTAA?
8/16/2006 8:56:12 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Look into Biodiesel.


Look all you want, go find some.

ETA: In fact, that can be your Forum job.

Post the locations of all the alternative fuel stations in the area.
8/16/2006 9:25:04 PM EDT
[#11]
Too bad biodiesel is perpetually X amount more expensive than regular diesel.

If they would quit charging a premium based on the dino stuff it would be a lot more attactive.

BTW, be on the watch - when alcohol fuel takes off, the libtards will whine about food stocks being converted to fuel for Americans while the world starves.  Remember you heard it here first.
8/16/2006 9:29:25 PM EDT
[#12]
If my memory does not fail, it is possible to "break" diesel into gasoline during the refining process but the opposite is not possible.

Also, diesel engines tend to be much more economical than gasoline, but cost much more due to construction and marketing reasons.   Unless you plan to drive a lot and tow heavy stuff it is almost not economically feasible to justify buying a diesel over gasoline.   Unless, of course, if you have money to burn...  


One of my "consumer dreams" is geting a full size diesel pickup.   Unfortunately my pocket does not agree...  
8/16/2006 11:05:46 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Look into Biodiesel.
First look into the cost of replacing all yur engine seals.
8/16/2006 11:28:43 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
If my memory does not fail, it is possible to "break" diesel into gasoline during the refining process but the opposite is not possible.

Also, diesel engines tend to be much more economical than gasoline, but cost much more due to construction and marketing reasons.   Unless you plan to drive a lot and tow heavy stuff it is almost not economically feasible to justify buying a diesel over gasoline.   Unless, of course, if you have money to burn...  


One of my "consumer dreams" is geting a full size diesel pickup.   Unfortunately my pocket does not agree...  


If you look at older used versions I think it is quite cost effective. My 1995 3/4 ton 4x4 Chevy gets 19 MPG. It did cost more than some of the gasoline models of the same year on the local used market, but it does not take long to make up the difference even when adding the higher cost of fuel. My 1988 1 ton 2wd with a big block was getting 8.5 MPG.



Quoted:

Quoted:
Look into Biodiesel.
First look into the cost of replacing all yur engine seals.


Most newer diesel engines (about 1992+) will have no problems with the seals or lines (from what I heard on the intarweb).
8/16/2006 11:31:08 PM EDT
[#15]
We were down at little rock for a trap shoot and my dad went to fill up his F250 just for the ride home so he put 50 bucks in... the guy raised the price 20 CENTS IN ONE SHOT right after he bought it and the guy said "Man your pulling a fast one on me" he said "How you mean?" "Well, I just got the order to raise the price and you get it for the cheaper price" my dads reply "Your pulling the fast one! You guys didnt pay NEAR that much for what you got in the ground, and now your charging even more!"
8/16/2006 11:52:37 PM EDT
[#16]
^^^^  C'mon man... Thats SOP
8/17/2006 8:51:28 AM EDT
[#17]

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(just be happy you don't drive an 18 wheeler.


It's a good time to be a railroader, however.
8/17/2006 8:59:30 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Look into Biodiesel.


Look all you want, go find some.

ETA: In fact, that can be your Forum job.

Post the locations of all the alternative fuel stations in the area.


http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/retailfuelingsites/showstate_bycity.asp?st=WA

http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/07/06/100loc_b1%20biodiesel001.cfm
8/17/2006 9:28:52 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If my memory does not fail, it is possible to "break" diesel into gasoline during the refining process but the opposite is not possible.

Also, diesel engines tend to be much more economical than gasoline, but cost much more due to construction and marketing reasons.   Unless you plan to drive a lot and tow heavy stuff it is almost not economically feasible to justify buying a diesel over gasoline.   Unless, of course, if you have money to burn...  


One of my "consumer dreams" is geting a full size diesel pickup.   Unfortunately my pocket does not agree...  


If you look at older used versions I think it is quite cost effective. My 1995 3/4 ton 4x4 Chevy gets 19 MPG. It did cost more than some of the gasoline models of the same year on the local used market, but it does not take long to make up the difference even when adding the higher cost of fuel. My 1988 1 ton 2wd with a big block was getting 8.5 MPG.



Quoted:

Quoted:
Look into Biodiesel.
First look into the cost of replacing all yur engine seals.


I am not a diesel wrench turner but, I spend alot of $ with one. He does not recomend it. I am also a member of TDR. I have read alot from guys who have ran it. I will not be running it it any of mine. If you are thinking of using Biodiesel you should do some research first. It is free advise take it for what it is worth.

Most newer diesel engines (about 1992+) will have no problems with the seals or lines (from what I heard on the intarweb).
8/17/2006 10:35:49 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Look into Biodiesel.


Look all you want, go find some.

ETA: In fact, that can be your Forum job.

Post the locations of all the alternative fuel stations in the area.


http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/retailfuelingsites/showstate_bycity.asp?st=WA

http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/07/06/100loc_b1%20biodiesel001.cfm


Wow, three whole fueling stations in Snohomish County, two of them in Marysville. I would get to burn a couple extra gallons just refueling the rig.

Don't get me wrong. If local farmers can grow a crop that we can use for fuel, more power to them. I'm all for it.

If it has to be shipped in from the midwest, I fail to see what that would accomplish in terms of reducing fuel consumption.
8/17/2006 10:47:38 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Look into Biodiesel.


Look all you want, go find some.

ETA: In fact, that can be your Forum job.

Post the locations of all the alternative fuel stations in the area.


http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/retailfuelingsites/showstate_bycity.asp?st=WA

http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/07/06/100loc_b1%20biodiesel001.cfm


Wow, three whole fueling stations in Snohomish County, two of them in Marysville. I would get to burn a couple extra gallons just refueling the rig.


A side trip to Marysville for a SCR heading to Everett from LS/GF/Snohomish/Monroe/Sky Valey would probably add less than 10 miles. That would use well below a gallon of fuel in a typical diesel vehicle. Not saying that I would necessarilly make the trip myself, but biodiesel is at least a start in lessening our dependence on foreign oil.
8/17/2006 11:03:10 AM EDT
[#22]

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Wow, three whole fueling stations in Snohomish County, two of them in Marysville. I would get to burn a couple extra gallons just refueling the rig.

Don't get me wrong. If local farmers can grow a crop that we can use for fuel, more power to them. I'm all for it.

If it has to be shipped in from the midwest, I fail to see what that would accomplish in terms of reducing fuel consumption.


Is Ecuador considered "the midwest"?

www.sptimes.com/2005/11/19/Business/Huge_biodiesel_shipme.shtml
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