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6/19/2006 9:30:03 PM EDT
Can the North Korean nuke tipped missle reach Seattle?

But not LA? That's some spooky stuff. I thought I'd left a targeted city behind. LA's port was a natural entry point. Anyone in the service know the size of NK's warheads? Sheesh.
6/19/2006 9:35:19 PM EDT
[#1]
You gotta be joking man...  Didnt think we were a target here?  Think of all the naval bases with ships & subs... and all those nukes that are on those subs while out to sea are at other bases...  Lots of targets here, Maynard
6/19/2006 9:36:57 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Can the North Korean nuke tipped missle reach Seattle?

But not LA? That's some spooky stuff. I thought I'd left a targeted city behind. LA's port was a natural entry point. Anyone in the service know the size of NK's warheads? Sheesh.



Are you kidding?

Lets see.

McCord Air Force Base.
Ft. Lewis Army Base.
Bremerton Naval Shipyard
Bangor Nuclear sub base
Whidbey Island Naval Air Station.
Fairchild Airforce Base
Boeing plants and runways in several cities
Boeing Space Division
Everett shipyards
Two of the busiest commercial ports in the world.
The Mariners.

There would be no more WA state.
6/19/2006 9:40:11 PM EDT
[#3]
No No No don't sit under that mushroom cloud with anyone else but me, anyone else but me, anyone else but me No No No.........

I loved it when the governor suggested we "bring our troops home to protect our own country"
6/19/2006 10:01:50 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Can the North Korean nuke tipped missle reach Seattle?

But not LA? That's some spooky stuff. I thought I'd left a targeted city behind. LA's port was a natural entry point. Anyone in the service know the size of NK's warheads? Sheesh.



Looks like we Washingtonians better send over some auxiliary fuel tanks so those missiles will at least reach L.A., San Fransisco, and Sacramento
6/19/2006 10:04:28 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
No No No don't sit under that mushroom cloud with anyone else but me, anyone else but me, anyone else but me No No No.........

I loved it when the governor suggested we "bring our troops home to protect our own country"



My wife and I are She says you are one sick fucker!
6/19/2006 10:19:14 PM EDT
[#6]
don't forget

Jim Creek Naval Radio Station
or any of the major power transfer stations

I'd like to get my own private island somewhere.....of course with my luck someone would decide its a great strategic staging area and try to take it over anyway    
6/19/2006 10:21:56 PM EDT
[#7]
6/19/2006 10:32:13 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
No No No don't sit under that mushroom cloud with anyone else but me, anyone else but me, anyone else but me No No No.........

I loved it when the governor suggested we "bring our troops home to protect our own country"



You are a twisted man Strat.



6/19/2006 11:26:22 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Can the North Korean nuke tipped missle reach Seattle?

But not LA? That's some spooky stuff. I thought I'd left a targeted city behind. LA's port was a natural entry point. Anyone in the service know the size of NK's warheads? Sheesh.


I know nothink, NUH-THINK!!!
6/20/2006 4:32:34 AM EDT
[#10]
I know they metioned it being able to hit San Fran.

I thought the LongDong2 had that kind of reach but apparently not. At least the LongDong3 is big enough to hit the sweet spot.
6/20/2006 5:12:53 AM EDT
[#11]
If the Koreans don't know that they'll we wiped off the map if they launch a missile, we should give them a demonstration nuke off their coast.

It's called playing hardball.
6/20/2006 5:52:15 AM EDT
[#12]
Having spent a year in the beautiful ROK I always find it amazing how little of the North's sabre rattling actually makes the news.  It was almost constant when I was there, I'd call the family and tell them to watch the news to stay updated.  They'd reply that there was nothing on about Korea.
6/20/2006 8:30:09 AM EDT
[#13]
If NK sends a missile here they may as well have just nuked themselves.  There won't be enough left of them to mop up with a Q-tip when we are done.
6/20/2006 8:37:07 AM EDT
[#14]
If I suddently stop posting, then you'll know that Something Is Up...

Here is Global Security.org's take on it.
There are several links within that article to earlier pieces on GS.org, including a range map that shows all of North America being within the range fan of the north Korean missiles.

Myself, I've been a north Korea watcher for 25+ years, so I'll believe it when I see it.  First, they have to get the thing to launch. Then, they have to be able to hit the broadside of the barn...
6/20/2006 8:58:58 AM EDT
[#15]
They'll never hit the NW while Bill Gates is still here.
6/20/2006 12:31:38 PM EDT
[#16]
Thanks DW,

That article says This test launch characteristics presumably will probably exhibit that it has the capability to travel between 8,000 and 12,000 kilometers with a 650 kilogram nuclear payload..

The distance between Pyongyang, North Korea and Seattle, WA is 5138.0 miles(8269.0 km).

With my luck, the idiots would miss by 30 miles and land it on my head.

BTW, I had no idea there was so many military bases around. When I lived in San Diego, one of my favorite things to do in Point Loma was to drive out to the Fort Roscrans cemetary and watch the sub pens down below. The other was Miramar and Top Gun before they moved to the desert.
6/20/2006 1:55:51 PM EDT
[#17]

BTW, I had no idea there was so many military bases around.


get outside much do you?
6/20/2006 1:56:34 PM EDT
[#18]
D'Oh!
6/20/2006 2:17:32 PM EDT
[#19]
So here is the big question in my mind; so what they have a missle capable of hitting us. They say they have nukes also and that is another big meh in my boook cause they dont have enough to do the job and we do. What truly intruiges me though is whether or not they can put one of those nukes on a missile or not. The technology behind a nuke isnt that complicated from what I have read but something tells me that fitting one to a missle is another matter entirely and DPRNK (or whatever) can't even make bikes so how are they going to get the technology and resources to do this?

China has to be involved if they have this capability.
6/20/2006 2:37:33 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
I know they metioned it being able to hit San Fran.

I thought the LongDong2 had that kind of reach but apparently not. At least the LongDong3 is big enough to hit the sweet spot.



The NK are haing a hard time finding a LongDong3 hard enough to penetrate the rear of San Fransisco....
6/20/2006 2:50:50 PM EDT
[#21]
Kim Sung Il likes the internation attention he gets when they make crazy statements. Sometimes reading their press reports and statements its almost like they have some program that randomly generates statements. Bagdad bob, or whatever that minister of disinformation comes to mind at times when reading what those crazy fuckers say about the aggression of the US. You know that the north korean people hear nothing but lies, that america is preparing to attack, that their criminal brothers to the south are getting ready to pour across the border, etc.

If they lauch this missle and it is a successful launch of their three stage rocket, well they will get attention alright. I think they know that with them placing all those fueling trucks near the missle, they are getting LOTS of attention. They may just launch that sucker and have it crash into the ocean off the east or west coast, just like they did back in 98 when they tossed one into the Sea of Japan.

6/21/2006 12:11:42 AM EDT
[#22]
It's Kim CHONG Il...

And the whole basic question that began this depends on "Do the commies have nukes?"  They might:  Among other things that never get reported, the Japanese A-Bomb program was located in what is now north Korea...

north Korea has been rattling Sabrejets, as James Jones* said, for 50 years or so.  it's a game they play.  It may well be the only game they know how to play.  They act like they're going to blow up the world.  The ROKs and we stare them down, without actually threatening to turn South Korea into an island nation.  Eventually they go back to begging for food and fuel handouts. (About ten years ago I was sitting in on an intel brief, the CWO3 had just finished describing anecdotal reports of canabalism, and the LTC asked "So, Chief, what wine do you recommend with ajashi?"  Sometimes I loved being an MI Geek...)

Digression:  They claim to have launched a commo satellite a few years ago.  No one saw it go up, and no one has seen it in orbit, but...

For years we told everyone that the reason we were in Korea was to keep the ROKs from going north.
Then the Iron Curtain fell, and the ROK sent all kinds of experts to Germany to observe and report back on the effects on the German, and especially "former" West German, economy, society, standard of living, etc. The result was that the ROK decided that they didn't WANT to re-unify anymore.
And then it became obvious just what a loser state north Korea is, and the ROKs realized that they might not have the option: Humanitarianism may leave them no choice, not to mention the fact that Koreans feel the bonds of blood very closely, and they are acutely aware that it is their cousins, aunts, and uncles dying of starvation up there.  

On the other hand, Kim Chong Il is a lunatic demagogue--Team America actually had him to a "T"--and who knows what he may do on a whim?

*James Jones of From Here To Eternity.  His book WWII,  an art history, of all things, and source of the phrase quoted above, was pretty damned good.  Two bayonets up.
6/21/2006 12:58:26 AM EDT
[#23]
Call me sick, but If it does come this way and we have to take a hit...



Please let it be in the heart of King Co.


6/21/2006 3:59:09 AM EDT
[#24]
Guess it's time to pick up some sun screen.

6/21/2006 6:25:23 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Can the North Korean nuke tipped missle reach Seattle?

But not LA? That's some spooky stuff. I thought I'd left a targeted city behind. LA's port was a natural entry point. Anyone in the service know the size of NK's warheads? Sheesh.



Are you kidding?

Lets see.

McCord Air Force Base.
Ft. Lewis Army Base.
Bremerton Naval Shipyard
Bangor Nuclear sub base
Whidbey Island Naval Air Station.
Fairchild Airforce Base
Boeing plants and runways in several cities
Boeing Space Division
Everett shipyards
Two of the busiest commercial ports in the world.
The Mariners.

There would be no more W.WA state.



Fixed it for ya.
6/21/2006 7:10:00 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
It's Kim CHONG Il...




Ehhh, We are both wrong....

its Kim Jong il

Either way, he's a crazy fucker.
6/21/2006 9:17:15 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Call me sick, but If it does come this way and we have to take a hit...



Please let it be in the heart of King Co.





Can I have Phil's moderator job?
6/21/2006 9:23:29 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
The Mariners.



Would that really be a big loss?
6/21/2006 10:00:35 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's Kim CHONG Il...




Ehhh, We are both wrong....

its Kim Jong il


And you learned Korean where?  
Are you aware of a transliteration system that is universally recognized? If so, you forgot to tell the Koreans...[/literallist humorless mode]


Either way, he's a crazy fucker.

That much we can agree on.
But:  He so ronelee...
6/21/2006 11:04:29 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's Kim CHONG Il...




Ehhh, We are both wrong....

its Kim Jong il


And you learned Korean where?  
Are you aware of a transliteration system that is universally recognized? If so, you forgot to tell the Koreans...[/literallist humorless mode]


Either way, he's a crazy fucker.

That much we can agree on.
But:  He so ronelee...



Don't get me started here. We were/are not talking about translation, the way a word is spoken, etc. :)
Its spelled in any google search, JONG, but since I'm a nice guy, we will pronouce "JONG" as "CHONG". fair enough
6/21/2006 12:44:12 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's Kim CHONG Il...




Ehhh, We are both wrong....

its Kim Jong il


And you learned Korean where?  
Are you aware of a transliteration system that is universally recognized? If so, you forgot to tell the Koreans...[/literallist humorless mode]


Either way, he's a crazy fucker.

That much we can agree on.
But:  He so ronelee...



Don't get me started here. We were/are not talking about translation, the way a word is spoken, etc. :)
Its spelled in any google search, JONG, but since I'm a nice guy, we will pronouce "JONG" as "CHONG". fair enough



Would you two please take your _ONG fetishes to IM.
6/21/2006 12:45:35 PM EDT
[#32]
I thought it was BONG....

They referred to him as Jong when I was there....hrmmm oh well.
6/21/2006 5:50:55 PM EDT
[#33]
Come down to Vancouver(little Portland!)!

They won't bomb Portland, it's too safe for terrorists!
6/22/2006 4:34:58 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
Come down to Vancouver(little Portland!)!

They won't bomb Portland, it's too safe for terrorists!



  True, but what if the NK's don't like homosexuals?

6/22/2006 10:44:09 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Come down to Vancouver(little Portland!)!

They won't bomb Portland, it's too safe for terrorists!



  True, but what if the NK's don't like homosexuals?




Oh snap!