Posted: 11/12/2016 7:19:46 PM EDT
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I moved to Virginia about 5 years ago after living in Gettysburg.
Is there any gun law related reason someone wouldn't want to move back to PA? I see that PA went red this past election, but i worry its proximity to NY will lead to NY style gun laws in the future. Does anyone else worry about this in PA? |
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The gov is a dipshit liberal, and prior to Tuesday the republicans had a solid majority in the state legislature. Tuesday they gained a few more seats and now have a veto-proof majority in the general assembly. PA also has one of the highest numbers of NRA members of any state. PA is pretty safe. |
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From my perspective, I don't consider Pennsylvania to be "Gun Friendly"; rather I'd categorize it close to Gun tollerant.
No hunting on Sundays No Semi Hunting (Delegitimize semi-autos by saying they're not for hunting) No target shooting on public lands. (Save for a handful of state ranges that restrict you to like 3 rounds of ammo) No face to face handgun sales (Semi-universal background checks) Unofficial state registry (thanks to no F2F for handguns) If I'm not mistaken, no loaded long guns in your vehicle. I'm sure there's plenty more, but you get the idea. Equally as bad is that the folk here have the typical east coast lefty mentality (These restrictions don't affect me because I don't _____, so it's not that bad) Granted, it's all a matter of perspective, I believe PA is arguably more tolerant than any state it borders. But that alone does not make it the firearm nirvana that most on this board make it out to be. And while I don't think anything major will happen any time soon, I thought the same of Colorado. And , well..... Don't come to PA simply because of Guns, because they may not be here one day. But do come because you like it, and the guns are just an added bonus. If you're looking to move specifically for firearms freedom, it's though to beat Arizona (Prefferably Phoenix metro). |
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From my perspective, I don't consider Pennsylvania to be "Gun Friendly"; rather I'd categorize it close to Gun tollerant. No hunting on Sundays No Semi Hunting (Delegitimize semi-autos by saying they're not for hunting) No target shooting on public lands. (Save for a handful of state ranges that restrict you to like 3 rounds of ammo) No face to face handgun sales (Semi-universal background checks) Unofficial state registry (thanks to no F2F for handguns) If I'm not mistaken, no loaded long guns in your vehicle. I'm sure there's plenty more, but you get the idea. Equally as bad is that the folk here have the typical east coast lefty mentality (These restrictions don't affect me because I don't _____, so it's not that bad) Granted, it's all a matter of perspective, I believe PA is arguably more tolerant than any state it borders. But that alone does not make it the firearm nirvana that most on this board make it out to be. And while I don't think anything major will happen any time soon, I thought the same of Colorado. And , well..... Don't come to PA simply because of Guns, because they may not be here one day. But do come because you like it, and the guns are just an added bonus. If you're looking to move specifically for firearms freedom, it's though to beat Arizona (Prefferably Phoenix metro). Except for the no handgun FTF sales we really have minimal laws, the ones you quoted are all game commission rules which only affect hunting and not gun ownership. As far a the no target shooting on public land, that's common in most of the east. It's not like we have vast swaths of BLM land like out west. The no loaded long guns in the vehicle is another carry over from the game laws. But a loaded MG, SBS, AOW or SBR is perfectly legal in a vehicle, so I'm not too worried about having to keep the magazine for a 16" gun loaded in a mag holder instead of inserted in the gun. Each state has their quirks, and Arizona isn't the perfect state either. Although AZ has constitutional carry, you still should get a permit. As it is illegal to carry a firearm into an establishment that serves alcohol with out one. Also you will want it for reciprocity reasons. In PA plunk down $20, and get your permit anywhere from instantly to 45 days depending on county. In AZ pay for and take a training class, get fingerprinted, pay $60 and wait approximately 75 days. In AZ state and local government can designate their buildings as gun free. In PA they are specifically prohibited from doing so. In AZ it is illegal to have even a sip of alcohol while carrying a firearm at a restaurant. there is no such restriction in PA. AZ has official no firearm signs that carry the weight of law. Pa has no such thing. AZ does not allow you to carry in a polling place while voting, Pa has no such restriction While both are very good states to be a gun owner in both have various restrictions. I don't see any clear cut one being better than the other. |
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Except for the no handgun FTF sales we really have minimal laws, the ones you quoted are all game commission rules which only affect hunting and not gun ownership. As far a the no target shooting on public land, that's common in most of the east. It's not like we have vast swaths of BLM land like out west. The no loaded long guns in the vehicle is another carry over from the game laws. But a loaded MG, SBS, AOW or SBR is perfectly legal in a vehicle, so I'm not too worried about having to keep the magazine for a 16" gun loaded in a mag holder instead of inserted in the gun. Each state has their quirks, and Arizona isn't the perfect state either. Although AZ has constitutional carry, you still should get a permit. As it is illegal to carry a firearm into an establishment that serves alcohol with out one. Also you will want it for reciprocity reasons. In PA plunk down $20, and get your permit anywhere from instantly to 45 days depending on county. In AZ pay for and take a training class, get fingerprinted, pay $60 and wait approximately 75 days. In AZ state and local government can designate their buildings as gun free. In PA they are specifically prohibited from doing so. In AZ it is illegal to have even a sip of alcohol while carrying a firearm at a restaurant. there is no such restriction in PA. AZ has official no firearm signs that carry the weight of law. Pa has no such thing. AZ does not allow you to carry in a polling place while voting, Pa has no such restriction While both are very good states to be a gun owner in both have various restrictions. I don't see any clear cut one being better than the other. Quoted:
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From my perspective, I don't consider Pennsylvania to be "Gun Friendly"; rather I'd categorize it close to Gun tollerant. No hunting on Sundays No Semi Hunting (Delegitimize semi-autos by saying they're not for hunting) No target shooting on public lands. (Save for a handful of state ranges that restrict you to like 3 rounds of ammo) No face to face handgun sales (Semi-universal background checks) Unofficial state registry (thanks to no F2F for handguns) If I'm not mistaken, no loaded long guns in your vehicle. I'm sure there's plenty more, but you get the idea. Equally as bad is that the folk here have the typical east coast lefty mentality (These restrictions don't affect me because I don't _____, so it's not that bad) Granted, it's all a matter of perspective, I believe PA is arguably more tolerant than any state it borders. But that alone does not make it the firearm nirvana that most on this board make it out to be. And while I don't think anything major will happen any time soon, I thought the same of Colorado. And , well..... Don't come to PA simply because of Guns, because they may not be here one day. But do come because you like it, and the guns are just an added bonus. If you're looking to move specifically for firearms freedom, it's though to beat Arizona (Prefferably Phoenix metro). Except for the no handgun FTF sales we really have minimal laws, the ones you quoted are all game commission rules which only affect hunting and not gun ownership. As far a the no target shooting on public land, that's common in most of the east. It's not like we have vast swaths of BLM land like out west. The no loaded long guns in the vehicle is another carry over from the game laws. But a loaded MG, SBS, AOW or SBR is perfectly legal in a vehicle, so I'm not too worried about having to keep the magazine for a 16" gun loaded in a mag holder instead of inserted in the gun. Each state has their quirks, and Arizona isn't the perfect state either. Although AZ has constitutional carry, you still should get a permit. As it is illegal to carry a firearm into an establishment that serves alcohol with out one. Also you will want it for reciprocity reasons. In PA plunk down $20, and get your permit anywhere from instantly to 45 days depending on county. In AZ pay for and take a training class, get fingerprinted, pay $60 and wait approximately 75 days. In AZ state and local government can designate their buildings as gun free. In PA they are specifically prohibited from doing so. In AZ it is illegal to have even a sip of alcohol while carrying a firearm at a restaurant. there is no such restriction in PA. AZ has official no firearm signs that carry the weight of law. Pa has no such thing. AZ does not allow you to carry in a polling place while voting, Pa has no such restriction While both are very good states to be a gun owner in both have various restrictions. I don't see any clear cut one being better than the other. I have yet to find a scorpion or rattlesnake in my boot in PA. |
...eventhough my county went blue 
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PA sucks...not just because of no semi auto hunting, but you cannot use NV/thermal to hunt as well. I'm reading that the semi auto hunting will be for predators and ground hogs, so don't get too excited to hunt with an AR15 for whitetail...at least not in the beginning.
If I didn't have a house and have to find two jobs, I'd move out of this shit state. |
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Quoted: PA sucks...not just because of no semi auto hunting, but you cannot use NV/thermal to hunt as well. I'm reading that the semi auto hunting will be for predators and ground hogs, so don't get too excited to hunt with an AR15 for whitetail...at least not in the beginning. If I didn't have a house and have to find two jobs, I'd move out of this shit state. over thermal hunting and semi's? do you live in the East or West side? |
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To give you an Idea of how PA can be, I heard a commercial for http://gettysburgtradingpost.com over the radio today. They're an SOT.
Is there another State that touches New Jerk State that has commercials for Firearm Dealers? |
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PA sucks...not just because of no semi auto hunting, but you cannot use NV/thermal to hunt as well. I'm reading that the semi auto hunting will be for predators and ground hogs, so don't get too excited to hunt with an AR15 for whitetail...at least not in the beginning. If I didn't have a house and have to find two jobs, I'd move out of this shit state. And what would you like to hunt using NV/Thermal ? We don't have a wild pig population (regardless of the bullshit regarding whether they exist or not in PA) or a predator population that would survive night hunting. Hell we barely have a whitetail population anymore in most areas. |
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And what would you like to hunt using NV/Thermal ? We don't have a wild pig population (regardless of the bullshit regarding whether they exist or not in PA) or a predator population that would survive night hunting. Hell we barely have a whitetail population anymore in most areas. I suppose he can use thermal to hunt in the daytime... makes it much easier to spot game..... about as easy as spotting a steak in the meat case at the butcher. |
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PA's pretty safe overall in regards to guns. Things are changing, albeit slowly, for the better. The no FTF handgun sales does kind of irk me, but I'm currently living in a state where there's no FTF sales period so it's a pretty good deal in comparison.
#1 reason I'd move back is the no tax on retirement income, which will be a consideration for me if I stay till retirement in the military. #1 reason I'd not move back is there's very few, if any, jobs in my current career field in PA. In VA I'll have my pick of the litter so long as I live IVO the NCR. Of course I'm thinking about going back to school for nursing or med school so if I do that then PA's back in the running. One kind of crappy thing I do remember was a distinct lack of places to shoot and the ones that did exist didn't have a range longer than 100yds. I've been really spoiled being able to shoot 600yds on the regular for the last few years. |