Posted: 6/6/2013 12:56:56 AM EDT
| I've been in contact with a class III dealer for a SS Sparrow. Do you guys think it is worth going the trust route or should I just do the whole fingerprinting/CLEO method? I hear the CLEO is NFA friendly, so that is not the issue here. |
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It would depend on what county you're in. Some county sheriffs think that they are giving you permission to own the gun. Nothing could be further from the truth. They are to make sure that the gun complies with state laws and nothing more. Some will hold it over your head as if they are saying "I don't think you should own this gun".
In my case I got to be buddies with the county sheriff. It turns out he rides motorcycles as I do. Now I just go over to his office and he signs the paperwork. |
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If your CLEO is NFA friendly and will sign a F4, that's the way I'd recommend to do it - easier, less expensive and more reliable than creating a separate entity to hold the items. A trust or corp has their advantages - mainly being able to circumvent the CLEO signoff, and avoidance of probate - but they also add a little risk to the process (issues with merger, execution, ongoing corporate reporting requirements, etc.). |
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If your CLEO is NFA friendly and will sign a F4, that's the way I'd recommend to do it - easier, less expensive and more reliable than creating a separate entity to hold the items. A trust or corp has their advantages - mainly being able to circumvent the CLEO signoff, and avoidance of probate - but they also add a little risk to the process (issues with merger, execution, ongoing corporate reporting requirements, etc.). |
| Yeh it doesn't sit right in my gut that you need fingerprints for these items. Is start up cost of a trust really in the $400 range? Who have you guys put on there? My wife has shot maybe 3 rounds from a firearm in her entire life, my boy is 4 months old- you get the point. My best friend shoots, so he could potentially be added, right? |
| Yeh it doesn't sit right in my gut that you need fingerprints for these items. Is start up cost of a trust really in the $400 range? Who have you guys put on there? My wife has shot maybe 3 rounds from a firearm in her entire life, my boy is 4 months old- you get the point. My best friend shoots, so he could potentially be added, right? |
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Quoted: Yeh it doesn't sit right in my gut that you need fingerprints for these items. Is start up cost of a trust really in the $400 range? Who have you guys put on there? My wife has shot maybe 3 rounds from a firearm in her entire life, my boy is 4 months old- you get the point. My best friend shoots, so he could potentially be added, right? its probably more like 600 now. You can put anyone on there you want. And if they make all semi-auto's NFA items, you will already be set. |
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If you live in a municipality (one that has it's own police force), then it's the chief of police. If you live in an unincorporated part of the county, it's the sheriff. Yep. I have my township Chief sign my forms. On a side note if you go the individual route and need the sign-off, make sure to get them to use the word "Chief" somewhere in there. I've had two forms returned because my guy signed "LT OIC" instead of "Chief". It seems to depend on who reviews it, because others were fine with that. And sure they could have spent 30 seconds calling the phone number on the form and verifying that he is indeed the chief, but instead they prefer to send the form all the way back to your dealer and then back to you so that you're set behind another month. 
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| I ended up ordering from Silencershop.com. They have some of the best deals, even with my local class III dealer (Defcon-1 in Coopersburg) charging $50 for the transfer. He says he's unable to match their prices because he sells such a limited amount and can't buy in bulk like most places online. So far he has been excellent in helping me with the purchase. Superb communication. Silencershop.com is also highly recommended. They processed my order and got me my serial number in less than an hour from purchase. I was impressed. |