Posted: 11/12/2005 4:05:12 AM EDT
| Hey guys...Where are the sobriety checkpoints advertised for bucks and montgomery county/. |
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Can't help with the sobriety check points but I will advise on the speed trap on Bustleton Ave in Feasterville Bucks County. Again, there's a very well known speed trap in Feasterville. Usually set up going east on Bustleton from Street Rd just as you pass the Ford dealership. There will be a cop in an unmarked car calling ahead to the police set up just after you go over the turnpike. I stopped at Surplus Guns friday afternoon and they were setup in the strip mall just past the gun dealer and definitely writing lots of tickets. |
I know that's a real bummer but the life you save may be your own . 
Sorry but my tolerance is zero when it comes to drinking and driving . I guess that's what happens when you lose friends from it . Retched glad to hear you made it home safe and sound . |
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"You can't even have a couple of beers anymore without fear of being hassled by the man." by retched_rick "Oh wait, let me guess, don't exceed the speed limit either." by princeton I see a couple people just don't get it. Drink & drive through my town & let's hear the smart ass comments when I'm putting the cuffs on. Look at it like this - we attacked a couple countries we felt caused about 3,000 deaths on 9/11. Here in America in 2004 we killed 16,694 people in alcohol related crashes. If another country killed almost 17,000 Americans we would nuke their ass. In the year 2000 the total cost of alcohol related crashes in America amounted to $114.3 billion dollars. Next time you pay your auto insurance think about this if you wonder why it costs so much. In 2002 approximately 1.5 million drivers were arrested for DUI compaired to an estimated 159 million alcohol impaired driving trips. In 2004 there were 1490 traffic deaths in Pennsylvania. 41% were alcohol related. That is 614 families torn apart by someone having a good time. Next time someone knocks on your door at 3am just pray it's not a policeman standing on your porch with a priest waiting to give you the news. Pennsylvania ranks #4 in the nation as far as numbers killed in DUI crashes - not something to be proud of. If you get stopped in a sobriety checkpoint you should thank the people working there. They just might have saved your life or the life of your family. If your sober it's a few minutes and you'll be on your way. I have a saying where I'm from if you insist on drinking & driving. WELCOME TO POTTER COUNTY. COME ON VACATION - LEAVE ON PROBATION. |
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It's not a rights issue, it's a privileges issue. Your driver's license is a privilege, allowed to you as long as you follow the rules for keeping it. Simply by having a license, you agree to follow the law. You have the right to be a stupid asshole. I have the right to tell you to STFU. You do not have the right to drink and drive. I work the Rescue/EMS side of the public safety sector and nothing pisses me off more than some drunken asshole causing a wreck that hurts or kills other people only to walk away without a scratch himself. I've seen way too many children and other innocents hurt that way to take it lightly. Ridgerunner, I have another saying for ya..."THEIR STUPIDITY IS OUR JOB SECURITY." |
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No and Runner.. In light of the recent events in La....How can you say that driving is a privilege? The state may say that but the reality of the fact is that transportation is a necessity. Checkpoints are an infringements of my rights. The Supreme Court noted that they were an infringement but allowed them for the so called greater good and the Madd crowd. Have you read the decision? I will not go through a checkpoint if I had 1 drink or none. I will not thank anybody for being the tool of a bad law. If you are comfortable going through these things and being grilled and drilled...fine go ahead. I do not drive drunk or impaired. If you admit to having one, they force you to blow the breathalyzer or do the monkey step in the FST. I know...because it happened to me...I avoided a checkpoint and was pulled over because of a blown license plate bulb in Warrington Twp. on County Line and 152. I passed and the cop seemed dissapointed. I guess he was up for the Top Gun award. I am not for checkpoints. I am for good police work via standard patrols. If a driver is impaired that should be readily apparent and that person should face the music. Every time I think about these things...I hear a voice with a German accent saying "Papers Please". |
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I am no angel when it comes to drinking. There is little pleasure in life much better than a bucket of Jim Beam Rye over rocks. And there are plenty of thursday nights after I close the shop a bunch of us go out and have a few. Instead of jumping in the car we will go have dinner(the drinks are all of the soft variety then), then hang out and bullshit for a few hours and enjoy the night. By the time it is all over with no one is impared. If they are they don't drive. Would not be the first time I have let one of my pals crash overnight in my store. I also HATE the idea of checkpoints. You are not in a free society if you have to be randomly checked, and that is sad. Gotta ask why we are in the situation to begin with? There are simply too many assholes in the world who take their freedom for granted. The solution is simply drink and have fun then sober up and drive home. |
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PH...Just who are you pointing this diatribe at? If you had read my post, I said I do not drive impaired and I also said that anyone caught DUI should face the music. You need to chill. It is your business if you agree with the whole checkpoint issue. I don't, and as a free, free thinking American I have that right. If you agree with the continued erosion of rights in this country, then head over to DU, they will welcome you with open arms. I think you should read Rehnquist's decision on this issue. It was allowed for the so called greater good and was pushed at the behest of the Madd crowd. Have you gone through a checkpoint? If so, did you not feel humiliated or felt like your privacy was invaded? Don't you get it? This is not about driving drunk. This is about your rights. This parallels the gun issue where someday they may ban all firearms for the greater good. It's a shame you don't see that. So when they knock at your door instead of "papers please" they will be asking for your "Guns Please" |
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I understand that driving is supposed to be a privilege and I feel as lucky as the next guy that my state lets me drive. But, the idea that I have to give up rights to enjoy that privilege is ridiculous. They only wrote the law that way so guys in law enforcement wouldn't feel so guilty stomping on people. When the time eventually pases in this country and private firearm ownership is outlawed they will write the law as such to let you guys feel less guilty kicking in peoples doors. And to set the record straight, I never suggested drunk driving or driving while impaired. We were only talking about a couple of drinks. It is possible to have 1-2 beers and not be impaired. But, get pulled over at a checkpoint with even the hint of beer on your breath and some yo-yo hick cop will cream his pants as though he just caught Hitler. |
I agree with you there . Just to do the same by setting the record straight I wasn't implying that yourself or Retched Rick were looking to drive drunk . Nothing wrong with a few drinks . |
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There is a huge difference between being too drunk to drive and "legally" DUI. Of course nobody is in favor of doing 10 shots and speeding off in a school parking lot but these days the Mommy State has gotten out of hand and like sheep we all just sit around and let it happen. Here is a guy worried about having a few glasses of wine at a wedding. Sorry state indeed. Wonder why we need a permit to carry? Once we started letting the Mommy government decide what's best for us there was no stopping and now its too late. From Seat Belts to Smoking, we have the society that we deserve so don’t bitch when one day they decide to take your guns - oh, don’t worry, they will have plenty of statistics on how many of our darling children will be safer. The Hell with personal responsibility, we are now all children needing to ask permission to go to the bathroom. Sad State Indeed. |
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phillyd2 claims - " Mommy State has gotten out of hand and like sheep we all just sit around and let it happen. Here is a guy worried about having a few glasses of wine at a wedding. Sorry state indeed." Philly - How about I strap your children in the vehicle with the guy that just had a few glasses of wine and let him drive them home? Some people just don't get the point. Lowering the BAC limit to 0.08% is NOT the first step in taking away people's guns. This way of thinking should be laughed at. We don't set up DUI checkpoints in my County but if we did I would be there. I'm not anti-alcohol. I'm anti-drunken asshole behind the wheel thinking he's alright. here is a little bit about what it takes to get to 0.08%. The drunks I arrest have averaged 0.23% so far this year. While there is no "safe" amount of alcohol for drivers, most people can drink moderately and drive legally when the illegal per se limit is set at .08. A 170-pound male typically would have to consume more than four drinks in one hour on an empty stomach to reach a BAC of .08. A 137-pound female typically would have to consume three drinks in the same time frame. |
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I wanted to post last night, but I was dead in the ass. So here goes... Philly, I don't give a rat's ass if you drink or whether you wear your seatbelt or not. If an adult chooses not to wear it, then he or she pays the consequences. I am fine with that. I really don't care if you have to wear a bib and drink through a straw for the rest of your life or not. My problem is with adults letting their children play and climb throughout the vehicle while they are driving. Children should be belted at all times. My 8 y/o daughter still rides in a booster seat 95% of the time, because with her small frame, she is safer there. Our children need to be safe, that is why there are laws. Your posts suggest that you don't want any laws regarding anything whatsoever. Yea, that would work. It's been tried before...it's known as anarchy. I believe arfcom would call it the "Zombie Apocalypse". This may be hard for you, but please try to understand. Have a few glasses of wine at the wedding, I don't care. But hit me and injure my kids and that will be the last alcohol you taste. You pay for your actions. I am not anti-drinking at all. I actually drink very rarely, but my circle of friends includes multiple alcoholics. I just DD for them. They may be drunken idiots, but they are my drunken idiots and I'd like to keep them around a while. And, like ridgerunner, I encounter DUI's all of the time. I cannot remember the last time I had someone who was just at the legal limit. My average is probably fairly close to his as far as the BA's go. Most are way over that. I have also seen the disastrous results of alcohol related incidents. Fifteen years of this has left me just a bit jaded. I think that we are all just going to have to agree to disagree on these subjects. We would probably all get along fine on a day at the range followed by a few cold ones. Let's just not drive anywhere right afterwards, OK? |
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Gentleman, If you have any questions about what I mean, please feel free to ask. For anybody to assume that I am for no laws or anarchy or strapping children onto the hood of cars driven by one that is wasted is not only stupid but reflects badly on those posting these silly diatribes. Surly we can do better that this. Surly a topic can be discussed or debated without getting personal or attacking another. The original post was about Checkpoints and the main point of my reply was that as sheep we accept such intrusions because of all of the children we are protecting (why is all erosion of liberty clothed in protecting our children?) Setting the legal DUI limit at .00001 is silly but allowed if the people through their government pass that law. I would disagree but would have no other issue. Sentencing a DUI driver is the 100 years in jail is silly (assuming no accidents) but allowed if the people through their government pass that law. What I do find scary here in these United States are the roadblocks. Since some of you are in law enforcement I'm sure you will recognize the following from the 4th Amendment: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized." I contend that a person's blood and breath to be parts of "their person" and that their vehicle is a personal "effect". I know that some may yell "probable cause" which would be true if somebody was speeding or driving out of control but that's not what we are talking about here. We are talking about a roadblock where everybody is stopped. This my friends is what happens in dictatorships and is close to tyranny, especially with those new flashlights with alcohol sensors hidden in them. DUI as is smoking, global warming and many other issues today are being pushed by scare tactics where when a lie when repeated enough it becomes fact. Its a open secret that the often repeated "drunk driving causes 41% of traffic deaths" is simple not true because even the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) admitted before Congress that if there is a accident and only the passenger has been drinking it gets added to the 41%. Others in this 41% are never tested but are "assumed" to be DUI. Again to be real clear, I am NOT for driving while drunk but I am for the truth. And don't get me started on the lies told by MADD. But this is a completely separate issue not for this post. Of course we would all be safer if even a glass of wine was not allowed before we drove. We would all be much safer if Cell phones were banned while driving. We would all be much safer if smoking was banned while driving. We would all be much safer if eating was banned while driving. We would all be much safer if applying make up was banned while driving. We would all be safer if loud music was banned while driving. We would all be much safer if stupid people would be banned while driving. We would all be much safer if sex was banned while driving. But, is this the kind of world we want to live in? Also for the record I have never been stopped for DUI nor do I drink much so this is not a personal vendetta. Oh, for those who really really care about saving lives then forget DUI and lets ban all meats and their byproducts because more people die of heart failure cause by meat fat than all other causes put together. Of course we should do this only if we really care about our children. Hope none takes offense to my post or position as none is intended to any by me personally. Some of my sarcastic ways are added only for effect and fun. We are just talking here girls so lets cool our jets and relax. Peace! |